Putting two tow straps together???
12-21-2005, 04:24 PM
#121
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Re: Putting two tow straps together???
The D ring was what you saw dropped to the ground, still attached
to two straps.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"KJ.Kate" wrote:
>
> Easy there big boy....
> Don't get all shook up.
>
> I understand the theory and the logic, as does my husband.
> I was just tossing in another opinion, that was offered from over my
> shoulder.
>
> Keep in mind, that the slings that he (my husband uses) are in heavy
> construction. Much larger than anything any of us would use, and for
> different purposes such as lifting as with a crane, not pulling.
>
> KJK
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43A97566.9F6CAFE5@sympatico.ca...
> : "KJ.Kate" wrote:
> : >
> : > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > news:_4udnRaovYetHDreRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
> : > : D-shackle, if they have loop ends.
> : > :
> : > : Carl
> : >
> : > That's what my husband says too.
> : > He says it is the 'approved method' of joining two straps together.
> : >
> : > KJK
> :
> : That is THE 'most' dangerous way to do it and would never be allowed on
> : any organized run or any RAMJ+W (newsgroup) run we put on.
> :
> : If one strap breaks, the D-ring 'will' go ballistic and it can go
> : through the windshield, then through the driver, then through the seat
> : and out the back window. People get killed that way.
> :
> : See:
> : http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
> :
> : Why is it so difficult for folks to just use the loops provided to put
> : the two straps together????? It is simple and idiot proof and not
> : likely to fail with deadly results.
> :
> : See: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
> :
> : Mike
> : 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> : Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> : Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> : (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
to two straps.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"KJ.Kate" wrote:
>
> Easy there big boy....
> Don't get all shook up.
>
> I understand the theory and the logic, as does my husband.
> I was just tossing in another opinion, that was offered from over my
> shoulder.
>
> Keep in mind, that the slings that he (my husband uses) are in heavy
> construction. Much larger than anything any of us would use, and for
> different purposes such as lifting as with a crane, not pulling.
>
> KJK
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43A97566.9F6CAFE5@sympatico.ca...
> : "KJ.Kate" wrote:
> : >
> : > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > news:_4udnRaovYetHDreRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
> : > : D-shackle, if they have loop ends.
> : > :
> : > : Carl
> : >
> : > That's what my husband says too.
> : > He says it is the 'approved method' of joining two straps together.
> : >
> : > KJK
> :
> : That is THE 'most' dangerous way to do it and would never be allowed on
> : any organized run or any RAMJ+W (newsgroup) run we put on.
> :
> : If one strap breaks, the D-ring 'will' go ballistic and it can go
> : through the windshield, then through the driver, then through the seat
> : and out the back window. People get killed that way.
> :
> : See:
> : http://www.southernhighrollers.com/t..._miss_from.htm
> :
> : Why is it so difficult for folks to just use the loops provided to put
> : the two straps together????? It is simple and idiot proof and not
> : likely to fail with deadly results.
> :
> : See: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
> :
> : Mike
> : 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> : Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> : Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> : (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-21-2005, 06:12 PM
#122
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Re: Putting two tow straps together???
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:q-Odnb7nj6eiNzTenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: It does have its risks but less so than a metal fitting. When using this
: method I will also hang a packing blanket or coat over the dowel to help
: slow it down if something gives. Similar to what you would do with a winch
: cable.
:
That makes sense.
12-21-2005, 06:12 PM
#123
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Re: Putting two tow straps together???
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:q-Odnb7nj6eiNzTenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: It does have its risks but less so than a metal fitting. When using this
: method I will also hang a packing blanket or coat over the dowel to help
: slow it down if something gives. Similar to what you would do with a winch
: cable.
:
That makes sense.
12-21-2005, 06:12 PM
#124
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Re: Putting two tow straps together???
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:q-Odnb7nj6eiNzTenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: It does have its risks but less so than a metal fitting. When using this
: method I will also hang a packing blanket or coat over the dowel to help
: slow it down if something gives. Similar to what you would do with a winch
: cable.
:
That makes sense.
12-21-2005, 09:15 PM
#125
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Re: Putting two tow straps together???
I appreciate all the responses folks...
On Sunday myself and a couple friends went out for some snow wheelin' and
seemed to have all the traction in the world even in the deepest of
snow...so we decided to venture into what we call the rail system...it's a
very old trail that has worn ruts that you'll drag your pumpkins over on
33's (when there's NO snow!)...my buddies (a YJ and a XJ) both on 35's were
struggling but making it...I on the other hand (33's) got half way into the
trail and spent 90% of the time high centered enough that the wheels would
hardly touch the ground if they would at all....I winched my way forward a
couple times till the winch gave out for the night (mind you it was day when
we entered)...I then was taking tugs from my friend in his XJ and it got
worse and harder to pull me through...kind of like taking the axles off and
trying to pull the Jeep through snow ice and mud... the 20' strap wasn't
long enough so we attached two 20' X 2" 30,000lb straps together with a
wooden dowel exactly like in Steve's illustration... after a couple serious
HARD pulls to get me going, the strap snapped on my side of the dowel and
the strap with the dowel still attached raced it's way through the back
window of the XJ and all the way through to smash the front as well...
fortunately no one was hurt... I'm not sure if I ever will do it
again...I'll spend the money and put two together permanently... It just
makes me think that in all the clubs, where family are out and these methods
are practiced with family members in the vehicle...it makes me think that
the guy in Michigan isn't the only person that has died this way.
Just the strap alone that flew back at my Jeep caved in my front grill
nicely right next to the drivers headlight...I couldn't imagine what would
have happened had the strap broke on the other side of the dowel...it prolly
would have to come right back through my windshield and killed me.
anyways back to the trail...we then put two new straps together and ripped
his heavy custom bumper right out of the frame (no rust in sight) on the
passenger side...we wound up letting the YJ pull me backwards as we fought
our way back out of the trail in reverse with our tails between our legs...
Jeff
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A9C3ED.8E940D9A@sympatico.ca...
> You know Jeff, that link you are showing the unsafe use of a dowel as a
> mechanical part of the link appears to be written or copywrited anyway
> by a John Cranfield, the same gent who lost his eye from the unsafe use
> of a high lift jack.
>
> Seems he likes to live dangerously....
>
> This is the safe way: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike... if the strap breaks the dowel will still fly right?? or is it
>> a
>> 50/50 thing that it may fall out??
>>
>> is this the way you say to attach them??
>>
>> http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6200/dowel19lo.jpg
>>
>> Thanks for the responses guys...I just wanna make sure that I can be the
>> safest I can be on the trail...I'll explain why in my next post...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <rootwofake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135114567.761779.139060@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >>
>> >
>> > Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
>> > (same knot) will fit the bill:
>> >
>> > http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html
>> >
On Sunday myself and a couple friends went out for some snow wheelin' and
seemed to have all the traction in the world even in the deepest of
snow...so we decided to venture into what we call the rail system...it's a
very old trail that has worn ruts that you'll drag your pumpkins over on
33's (when there's NO snow!)...my buddies (a YJ and a XJ) both on 35's were
struggling but making it...I on the other hand (33's) got half way into the
trail and spent 90% of the time high centered enough that the wheels would
hardly touch the ground if they would at all....I winched my way forward a
couple times till the winch gave out for the night (mind you it was day when
we entered)...I then was taking tugs from my friend in his XJ and it got
worse and harder to pull me through...kind of like taking the axles off and
trying to pull the Jeep through snow ice and mud... the 20' strap wasn't
long enough so we attached two 20' X 2" 30,000lb straps together with a
wooden dowel exactly like in Steve's illustration... after a couple serious
HARD pulls to get me going, the strap snapped on my side of the dowel and
the strap with the dowel still attached raced it's way through the back
window of the XJ and all the way through to smash the front as well...
fortunately no one was hurt... I'm not sure if I ever will do it
again...I'll spend the money and put two together permanently... It just
makes me think that in all the clubs, where family are out and these methods
are practiced with family members in the vehicle...it makes me think that
the guy in Michigan isn't the only person that has died this way.
Just the strap alone that flew back at my Jeep caved in my front grill
nicely right next to the drivers headlight...I couldn't imagine what would
have happened had the strap broke on the other side of the dowel...it prolly
would have to come right back through my windshield and killed me.
anyways back to the trail...we then put two new straps together and ripped
his heavy custom bumper right out of the frame (no rust in sight) on the
passenger side...we wound up letting the YJ pull me backwards as we fought
our way back out of the trail in reverse with our tails between our legs...
Jeff
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A9C3ED.8E940D9A@sympatico.ca...
> You know Jeff, that link you are showing the unsafe use of a dowel as a
> mechanical part of the link appears to be written or copywrited anyway
> by a John Cranfield, the same gent who lost his eye from the unsafe use
> of a high lift jack.
>
> Seems he likes to live dangerously....
>
> This is the safe way: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike... if the strap breaks the dowel will still fly right?? or is it
>> a
>> 50/50 thing that it may fall out??
>>
>> is this the way you say to attach them??
>>
>> http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6200/dowel19lo.jpg
>>
>> Thanks for the responses guys...I just wanna make sure that I can be the
>> safest I can be on the trail...I'll explain why in my next post...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <rootwofake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135114567.761779.139060@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >>
>> >
>> > Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
>> > (same knot) will fit the bill:
>> >
>> > http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html
>> >
12-21-2005, 09:15 PM
#126
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Putting two tow straps together???
I appreciate all the responses folks...
On Sunday myself and a couple friends went out for some snow wheelin' and
seemed to have all the traction in the world even in the deepest of
snow...so we decided to venture into what we call the rail system...it's a
very old trail that has worn ruts that you'll drag your pumpkins over on
33's (when there's NO snow!)...my buddies (a YJ and a XJ) both on 35's were
struggling but making it...I on the other hand (33's) got half way into the
trail and spent 90% of the time high centered enough that the wheels would
hardly touch the ground if they would at all....I winched my way forward a
couple times till the winch gave out for the night (mind you it was day when
we entered)...I then was taking tugs from my friend in his XJ and it got
worse and harder to pull me through...kind of like taking the axles off and
trying to pull the Jeep through snow ice and mud... the 20' strap wasn't
long enough so we attached two 20' X 2" 30,000lb straps together with a
wooden dowel exactly like in Steve's illustration... after a couple serious
HARD pulls to get me going, the strap snapped on my side of the dowel and
the strap with the dowel still attached raced it's way through the back
window of the XJ and all the way through to smash the front as well...
fortunately no one was hurt... I'm not sure if I ever will do it
again...I'll spend the money and put two together permanently... It just
makes me think that in all the clubs, where family are out and these methods
are practiced with family members in the vehicle...it makes me think that
the guy in Michigan isn't the only person that has died this way.
Just the strap alone that flew back at my Jeep caved in my front grill
nicely right next to the drivers headlight...I couldn't imagine what would
have happened had the strap broke on the other side of the dowel...it prolly
would have to come right back through my windshield and killed me.
anyways back to the trail...we then put two new straps together and ripped
his heavy custom bumper right out of the frame (no rust in sight) on the
passenger side...we wound up letting the YJ pull me backwards as we fought
our way back out of the trail in reverse with our tails between our legs...
Jeff
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A9C3ED.8E940D9A@sympatico.ca...
> You know Jeff, that link you are showing the unsafe use of a dowel as a
> mechanical part of the link appears to be written or copywrited anyway
> by a John Cranfield, the same gent who lost his eye from the unsafe use
> of a high lift jack.
>
> Seems he likes to live dangerously....
>
> This is the safe way: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike... if the strap breaks the dowel will still fly right?? or is it
>> a
>> 50/50 thing that it may fall out??
>>
>> is this the way you say to attach them??
>>
>> http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6200/dowel19lo.jpg
>>
>> Thanks for the responses guys...I just wanna make sure that I can be the
>> safest I can be on the trail...I'll explain why in my next post...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <rootwofake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135114567.761779.139060@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >>
>> >
>> > Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
>> > (same knot) will fit the bill:
>> >
>> > http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html
>> >
On Sunday myself and a couple friends went out for some snow wheelin' and
seemed to have all the traction in the world even in the deepest of
snow...so we decided to venture into what we call the rail system...it's a
very old trail that has worn ruts that you'll drag your pumpkins over on
33's (when there's NO snow!)...my buddies (a YJ and a XJ) both on 35's were
struggling but making it...I on the other hand (33's) got half way into the
trail and spent 90% of the time high centered enough that the wheels would
hardly touch the ground if they would at all....I winched my way forward a
couple times till the winch gave out for the night (mind you it was day when
we entered)...I then was taking tugs from my friend in his XJ and it got
worse and harder to pull me through...kind of like taking the axles off and
trying to pull the Jeep through snow ice and mud... the 20' strap wasn't
long enough so we attached two 20' X 2" 30,000lb straps together with a
wooden dowel exactly like in Steve's illustration... after a couple serious
HARD pulls to get me going, the strap snapped on my side of the dowel and
the strap with the dowel still attached raced it's way through the back
window of the XJ and all the way through to smash the front as well...
fortunately no one was hurt... I'm not sure if I ever will do it
again...I'll spend the money and put two together permanently... It just
makes me think that in all the clubs, where family are out and these methods
are practiced with family members in the vehicle...it makes me think that
the guy in Michigan isn't the only person that has died this way.
Just the strap alone that flew back at my Jeep caved in my front grill
nicely right next to the drivers headlight...I couldn't imagine what would
have happened had the strap broke on the other side of the dowel...it prolly
would have to come right back through my windshield and killed me.
anyways back to the trail...we then put two new straps together and ripped
his heavy custom bumper right out of the frame (no rust in sight) on the
passenger side...we wound up letting the YJ pull me backwards as we fought
our way back out of the trail in reverse with our tails between our legs...
Jeff
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A9C3ED.8E940D9A@sympatico.ca...
> You know Jeff, that link you are showing the unsafe use of a dowel as a
> mechanical part of the link appears to be written or copywrited anyway
> by a John Cranfield, the same gent who lost his eye from the unsafe use
> of a high lift jack.
>
> Seems he likes to live dangerously....
>
> This is the safe way: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike... if the strap breaks the dowel will still fly right?? or is it
>> a
>> 50/50 thing that it may fall out??
>>
>> is this the way you say to attach them??
>>
>> http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6200/dowel19lo.jpg
>>
>> Thanks for the responses guys...I just wanna make sure that I can be the
>> safest I can be on the trail...I'll explain why in my next post...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <rootwofake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135114567.761779.139060@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >>
>> >
>> > Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
>> > (same knot) will fit the bill:
>> >
>> > http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html
>> >
12-21-2005, 09:15 PM
#127
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Putting two tow straps together???
I appreciate all the responses folks...
On Sunday myself and a couple friends went out for some snow wheelin' and
seemed to have all the traction in the world even in the deepest of
snow...so we decided to venture into what we call the rail system...it's a
very old trail that has worn ruts that you'll drag your pumpkins over on
33's (when there's NO snow!)...my buddies (a YJ and a XJ) both on 35's were
struggling but making it...I on the other hand (33's) got half way into the
trail and spent 90% of the time high centered enough that the wheels would
hardly touch the ground if they would at all....I winched my way forward a
couple times till the winch gave out for the night (mind you it was day when
we entered)...I then was taking tugs from my friend in his XJ and it got
worse and harder to pull me through...kind of like taking the axles off and
trying to pull the Jeep through snow ice and mud... the 20' strap wasn't
long enough so we attached two 20' X 2" 30,000lb straps together with a
wooden dowel exactly like in Steve's illustration... after a couple serious
HARD pulls to get me going, the strap snapped on my side of the dowel and
the strap with the dowel still attached raced it's way through the back
window of the XJ and all the way through to smash the front as well...
fortunately no one was hurt... I'm not sure if I ever will do it
again...I'll spend the money and put two together permanently... It just
makes me think that in all the clubs, where family are out and these methods
are practiced with family members in the vehicle...it makes me think that
the guy in Michigan isn't the only person that has died this way.
Just the strap alone that flew back at my Jeep caved in my front grill
nicely right next to the drivers headlight...I couldn't imagine what would
have happened had the strap broke on the other side of the dowel...it prolly
would have to come right back through my windshield and killed me.
anyways back to the trail...we then put two new straps together and ripped
his heavy custom bumper right out of the frame (no rust in sight) on the
passenger side...we wound up letting the YJ pull me backwards as we fought
our way back out of the trail in reverse with our tails between our legs...
Jeff
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A9C3ED.8E940D9A@sympatico.ca...
> You know Jeff, that link you are showing the unsafe use of a dowel as a
> mechanical part of the link appears to be written or copywrited anyway
> by a John Cranfield, the same gent who lost his eye from the unsafe use
> of a high lift jack.
>
> Seems he likes to live dangerously....
>
> This is the safe way: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike... if the strap breaks the dowel will still fly right?? or is it
>> a
>> 50/50 thing that it may fall out??
>>
>> is this the way you say to attach them??
>>
>> http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6200/dowel19lo.jpg
>>
>> Thanks for the responses guys...I just wanna make sure that I can be the
>> safest I can be on the trail...I'll explain why in my next post...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <rootwofake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135114567.761779.139060@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >>
>> >
>> > Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
>> > (same knot) will fit the bill:
>> >
>> > http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html
>> >
On Sunday myself and a couple friends went out for some snow wheelin' and
seemed to have all the traction in the world even in the deepest of
snow...so we decided to venture into what we call the rail system...it's a
very old trail that has worn ruts that you'll drag your pumpkins over on
33's (when there's NO snow!)...my buddies (a YJ and a XJ) both on 35's were
struggling but making it...I on the other hand (33's) got half way into the
trail and spent 90% of the time high centered enough that the wheels would
hardly touch the ground if they would at all....I winched my way forward a
couple times till the winch gave out for the night (mind you it was day when
we entered)...I then was taking tugs from my friend in his XJ and it got
worse and harder to pull me through...kind of like taking the axles off and
trying to pull the Jeep through snow ice and mud... the 20' strap wasn't
long enough so we attached two 20' X 2" 30,000lb straps together with a
wooden dowel exactly like in Steve's illustration... after a couple serious
HARD pulls to get me going, the strap snapped on my side of the dowel and
the strap with the dowel still attached raced it's way through the back
window of the XJ and all the way through to smash the front as well...
fortunately no one was hurt... I'm not sure if I ever will do it
again...I'll spend the money and put two together permanently... It just
makes me think that in all the clubs, where family are out and these methods
are practiced with family members in the vehicle...it makes me think that
the guy in Michigan isn't the only person that has died this way.
Just the strap alone that flew back at my Jeep caved in my front grill
nicely right next to the drivers headlight...I couldn't imagine what would
have happened had the strap broke on the other side of the dowel...it prolly
would have to come right back through my windshield and killed me.
anyways back to the trail...we then put two new straps together and ripped
his heavy custom bumper right out of the frame (no rust in sight) on the
passenger side...we wound up letting the YJ pull me backwards as we fought
our way back out of the trail in reverse with our tails between our legs...
Jeff
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A9C3ED.8E940D9A@sympatico.ca...
> You know Jeff, that link you are showing the unsafe use of a dowel as a
> mechanical part of the link appears to be written or copywrited anyway
> by a John Cranfield, the same gent who lost his eye from the unsafe use
> of a high lift jack.
>
> Seems he likes to live dangerously....
>
> This is the safe way: http://xjeep.dyndns.org/slipstrap.jpg
>
> Mike
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike... if the strap breaks the dowel will still fly right?? or is it
>> a
>> 50/50 thing that it may fall out??
>>
>> is this the way you say to attach them??
>>
>> http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6200/dowel19lo.jpg
>>
>> Thanks for the responses guys...I just wanna make sure that I can be the
>> safest I can be on the trail...I'll explain why in my next post...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <rootwofake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135114567.761779.139060@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
>> >> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>> >>
>> >
>> > Although it's usually used for rope, a Zeppelin Bend or Rosendahl Bend
>> > (same knot) will fit the bill:
>> >
>> > http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/Zeppelin.html
>> >
12-21-2005, 09:36 PM
#128
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Re: Putting two tow straps together???
Well, tying two straps together is inherently risky, but assuming you know
that, I would ONLY use the straps that have loops on each end -- NEVER EVER
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE STRAPS WITH METAL HOOKS -- and run each strap
through the loop on the other. This will connect the two straps in a manner
that they can be undone later.
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>
that, I would ONLY use the straps that have loops on each end -- NEVER EVER
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE STRAPS WITH METAL HOOKS -- and run each strap
through the loop on the other. This will connect the two straps in a manner
that they can be undone later.
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>
12-21-2005, 09:36 PM
#129
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Putting two tow straps together???
Well, tying two straps together is inherently risky, but assuming you know
that, I would ONLY use the straps that have loops on each end -- NEVER EVER
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE STRAPS WITH METAL HOOKS -- and run each strap
through the loop on the other. This will connect the two straps in a manner
that they can be undone later.
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>
that, I would ONLY use the straps that have loops on each end -- NEVER EVER
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE STRAPS WITH METAL HOOKS -- and run each strap
through the loop on the other. This will connect the two straps in a manner
that they can be undone later.
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>
12-21-2005, 09:36 PM
#130
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Putting two tow straps together???
Well, tying two straps together is inherently risky, but assuming you know
that, I would ONLY use the straps that have loops on each end -- NEVER EVER
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE STRAPS WITH METAL HOOKS -- and run each strap
through the loop on the other. This will connect the two straps in a manner
that they can be undone later.
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>
that, I would ONLY use the straps that have loops on each end -- NEVER EVER
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE STRAPS WITH METAL HOOKS -- and run each strap
through the loop on the other. This will connect the two straps in a manner
that they can be undone later.
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:2dJpf.13208$wg4.4127@edtnps84...
> Any safer means of attaching two straps together, than with a wooden
> doweling and still be able to get them apart??
>
> --
> Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
> http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
> http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/4696/jeepsgif3iq.gif
>