OT, Is there any sanity in....
08-10-2006, 09:02 PM
#11
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
Another reason to live in the mountains, far from any "Clean Air Program"
area.
Earle
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981BAF3CCDC4Axs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> ...government programs?
>
> I took my Jeep in for it's annual emission test and it failed because
> the gas cap wouldn't hold pressure. I got a new cap at Auto Zone
> (closest place) for $6.00 and went back for a retest.
>
> It passed, all they did was put the cap on the tester and I was done
> but.....
>
> 1. The State of Arizona says if the cap fails a full retest MUST be
> done because the leaky cap can upset other emission components. That's
> not true and it's nice to know the emissions folks apparently realize
> that so they didn't spend the time, money and man hours retesting me,
> but......
>
> 2. How much gasoline vapor could the cap have leaked into the
> atmosphere? The leak was very tiny, I blew into the cap and couldn't
> detect any leakage the first try, then I tried really hard and did find
> a small amount but I was applying more pressure than was likely to ever
> build up in the tank and......
>
> 3. How much emissions went into the air from my Jeep idling during the
> 15 minute wait, running during the test, driving home, driving to Auto
> Zone, driving to the emissions place, waiting 30 minutes in line and
> idling for 10 minutes while they decided not to do the full test and
> then driving home again to say nothing of all the times the gas cap was
> removed and replaced?
>
> Somehow I can't believe the emission testing system is really helping
> to clear the air but I'm sure it's a cash cow for the company doing the
> testing.
>
>
>
area.
Earle
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981BAF3CCDC4Axs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> ...government programs?
>
> I took my Jeep in for it's annual emission test and it failed because
> the gas cap wouldn't hold pressure. I got a new cap at Auto Zone
> (closest place) for $6.00 and went back for a retest.
>
> It passed, all they did was put the cap on the tester and I was done
> but.....
>
> 1. The State of Arizona says if the cap fails a full retest MUST be
> done because the leaky cap can upset other emission components. That's
> not true and it's nice to know the emissions folks apparently realize
> that so they didn't spend the time, money and man hours retesting me,
> but......
>
> 2. How much gasoline vapor could the cap have leaked into the
> atmosphere? The leak was very tiny, I blew into the cap and couldn't
> detect any leakage the first try, then I tried really hard and did find
> a small amount but I was applying more pressure than was likely to ever
> build up in the tank and......
>
> 3. How much emissions went into the air from my Jeep idling during the
> 15 minute wait, running during the test, driving home, driving to Auto
> Zone, driving to the emissions place, waiting 30 minutes in line and
> idling for 10 minutes while they decided not to do the full test and
> then driving home again to say nothing of all the times the gas cap was
> removed and replaced?
>
> Somehow I can't believe the emission testing system is really helping
> to clear the air but I'm sure it's a cash cow for the company doing the
> testing.
>
>
>
08-10-2006, 09:02 PM
#12
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
Another reason to live in the mountains, far from any "Clean Air Program"
area.
Earle
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981BAF3CCDC4Axs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> ...government programs?
>
> I took my Jeep in for it's annual emission test and it failed because
> the gas cap wouldn't hold pressure. I got a new cap at Auto Zone
> (closest place) for $6.00 and went back for a retest.
>
> It passed, all they did was put the cap on the tester and I was done
> but.....
>
> 1. The State of Arizona says if the cap fails a full retest MUST be
> done because the leaky cap can upset other emission components. That's
> not true and it's nice to know the emissions folks apparently realize
> that so they didn't spend the time, money and man hours retesting me,
> but......
>
> 2. How much gasoline vapor could the cap have leaked into the
> atmosphere? The leak was very tiny, I blew into the cap and couldn't
> detect any leakage the first try, then I tried really hard and did find
> a small amount but I was applying more pressure than was likely to ever
> build up in the tank and......
>
> 3. How much emissions went into the air from my Jeep idling during the
> 15 minute wait, running during the test, driving home, driving to Auto
> Zone, driving to the emissions place, waiting 30 minutes in line and
> idling for 10 minutes while they decided not to do the full test and
> then driving home again to say nothing of all the times the gas cap was
> removed and replaced?
>
> Somehow I can't believe the emission testing system is really helping
> to clear the air but I'm sure it's a cash cow for the company doing the
> testing.
>
>
>
area.
Earle
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981BAF3CCDC4Axs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> ...government programs?
>
> I took my Jeep in for it's annual emission test and it failed because
> the gas cap wouldn't hold pressure. I got a new cap at Auto Zone
> (closest place) for $6.00 and went back for a retest.
>
> It passed, all they did was put the cap on the tester and I was done
> but.....
>
> 1. The State of Arizona says if the cap fails a full retest MUST be
> done because the leaky cap can upset other emission components. That's
> not true and it's nice to know the emissions folks apparently realize
> that so they didn't spend the time, money and man hours retesting me,
> but......
>
> 2. How much gasoline vapor could the cap have leaked into the
> atmosphere? The leak was very tiny, I blew into the cap and couldn't
> detect any leakage the first try, then I tried really hard and did find
> a small amount but I was applying more pressure than was likely to ever
> build up in the tank and......
>
> 3. How much emissions went into the air from my Jeep idling during the
> 15 minute wait, running during the test, driving home, driving to Auto
> Zone, driving to the emissions place, waiting 30 minutes in line and
> idling for 10 minutes while they decided not to do the full test and
> then driving home again to say nothing of all the times the gas cap was
> removed and replaced?
>
> Somehow I can't believe the emission testing system is really helping
> to clear the air but I'm sure it's a cash cow for the company doing the
> testing.
>
>
>
08-10-2006, 09:02 PM
#13
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
Another reason to live in the mountains, far from any "Clean Air Program"
area.
Earle
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981BAF3CCDC4Axs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> ...government programs?
>
> I took my Jeep in for it's annual emission test and it failed because
> the gas cap wouldn't hold pressure. I got a new cap at Auto Zone
> (closest place) for $6.00 and went back for a retest.
>
> It passed, all they did was put the cap on the tester and I was done
> but.....
>
> 1. The State of Arizona says if the cap fails a full retest MUST be
> done because the leaky cap can upset other emission components. That's
> not true and it's nice to know the emissions folks apparently realize
> that so they didn't spend the time, money and man hours retesting me,
> but......
>
> 2. How much gasoline vapor could the cap have leaked into the
> atmosphere? The leak was very tiny, I blew into the cap and couldn't
> detect any leakage the first try, then I tried really hard and did find
> a small amount but I was applying more pressure than was likely to ever
> build up in the tank and......
>
> 3. How much emissions went into the air from my Jeep idling during the
> 15 minute wait, running during the test, driving home, driving to Auto
> Zone, driving to the emissions place, waiting 30 minutes in line and
> idling for 10 minutes while they decided not to do the full test and
> then driving home again to say nothing of all the times the gas cap was
> removed and replaced?
>
> Somehow I can't believe the emission testing system is really helping
> to clear the air but I'm sure it's a cash cow for the company doing the
> testing.
>
>
>
area.
Earle
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981BAF3CCDC4Axs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> ...government programs?
>
> I took my Jeep in for it's annual emission test and it failed because
> the gas cap wouldn't hold pressure. I got a new cap at Auto Zone
> (closest place) for $6.00 and went back for a retest.
>
> It passed, all they did was put the cap on the tester and I was done
> but.....
>
> 1. The State of Arizona says if the cap fails a full retest MUST be
> done because the leaky cap can upset other emission components. That's
> not true and it's nice to know the emissions folks apparently realize
> that so they didn't spend the time, money and man hours retesting me,
> but......
>
> 2. How much gasoline vapor could the cap have leaked into the
> atmosphere? The leak was very tiny, I blew into the cap and couldn't
> detect any leakage the first try, then I tried really hard and did find
> a small amount but I was applying more pressure than was likely to ever
> build up in the tank and......
>
> 3. How much emissions went into the air from my Jeep idling during the
> 15 minute wait, running during the test, driving home, driving to Auto
> Zone, driving to the emissions place, waiting 30 minutes in line and
> idling for 10 minutes while they decided not to do the full test and
> then driving home again to say nothing of all the times the gas cap was
> removed and replaced?
>
> Somehow I can't believe the emission testing system is really helping
> to clear the air but I'm sure it's a cash cow for the company doing the
> testing.
>
>
>
08-10-2006, 10:31 PM
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
clay <clay@mation.com> wrote in
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
08-10-2006, 10:31 PM
#15
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
clay <clay@mation.com> wrote in
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
08-10-2006, 10:31 PM
#16
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
clay <clay@mation.com> wrote in
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
08-10-2006, 10:31 PM
#17
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
clay <clay@mation.com> wrote in
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
news:SdQCg.5431$o27.3633@newssvr21.news.prodigy.co m:
> Well, in CA they test the cap last, fail you and take your money.
> Then charge you again to retest when you return... (although some
> give you a discount if retested within a certain length of time)
California certifies repair shops to do the testing, they tried that
here and everybody failed until they spent money!
Now they contract an independent company to run the testing, they are
paid a percent of the testing fee and are not allowed to do any repairs
or recommend any place.
Retests are free.
08-10-2006, 10:33 PM
#18
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in
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> You need to get your politicians to stop taking kickbacks from the
> testing companies....
Impossible, Arizona has a testing program mandated by the EPA. If we
don't have a program compliant with their rules we get fined bunches of
bucks on a daily bases. Fortunately, it only applies to two counties
here.
news:6bd19$44dbd3ef$48311eaf$1198@FUSE.NET:
> You need to get your politicians to stop taking kickbacks from the
> testing companies....
Impossible, Arizona has a testing program mandated by the EPA. If we
don't have a program compliant with their rules we get fined bunches of
bucks on a daily bases. Fortunately, it only applies to two counties
here.
08-10-2006, 10:33 PM
#19
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in
news:6bd19$44dbd3ef$48311eaf$1198@FUSE.NET:
> You need to get your politicians to stop taking kickbacks from the
> testing companies....
Impossible, Arizona has a testing program mandated by the EPA. If we
don't have a program compliant with their rules we get fined bunches of
bucks on a daily bases. Fortunately, it only applies to two counties
here.
news:6bd19$44dbd3ef$48311eaf$1198@FUSE.NET:
> You need to get your politicians to stop taking kickbacks from the
> testing companies....
Impossible, Arizona has a testing program mandated by the EPA. If we
don't have a program compliant with their rules we get fined bunches of
bucks on a daily bases. Fortunately, it only applies to two counties
here.
08-10-2006, 10:33 PM
#20
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Re: OT, Is there any sanity in....
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in
news:6bd19$44dbd3ef$48311eaf$1198@FUSE.NET:
> You need to get your politicians to stop taking kickbacks from the
> testing companies....
Impossible, Arizona has a testing program mandated by the EPA. If we
don't have a program compliant with their rules we get fined bunches of
bucks on a daily bases. Fortunately, it only applies to two counties
here.
news:6bd19$44dbd3ef$48311eaf$1198@FUSE.NET:
> You need to get your politicians to stop taking kickbacks from the
> testing companies....
Impossible, Arizona has a testing program mandated by the EPA. If we
don't have a program compliant with their rules we get fined bunches of
bucks on a daily bases. Fortunately, it only applies to two counties
here.