OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
"Harry K" <turnkey4099@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> lazolla@hotmail.com (Bartolomeo Cristofori) wrote in message
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> Ah yes, finally the proper answer, i.e, it is slightly less pressure
> to begin with to fill thru the bottom hole until it is identical when
> the barrel is full.
finally? He had a correct answer within ten minutes. Why this thread has
grown (or should I say GROAN?) so long is a mystery to me!
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
"Harry K" <turnkey4099@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> lazolla@hotmail.com (Bartolomeo Cristofori) wrote in message
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> Ah yes, finally the proper answer, i.e, it is slightly less pressure
> to begin with to fill thru the bottom hole until it is identical when
> the barrel is full.
finally? He had a correct answer within ten minutes. Why this thread has
grown (or should I say GROAN?) so long is a mystery to me!
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<qXapd.146112$R05.86029@attbi_s53>...
> Jeepers proclaimed:
>
> > O.k. got an argument to solve.
> >
> > Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> > in deer camp).
> >
> > It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> > side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> Tighten all bungs. Drop a round or two from a hand loaded big bore
> belted magnum thru it. Watch barrel disintegrate.
>
> >
> > There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> > two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> > is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> >
> > The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> > barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> > top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> > is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> > the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> >
> > Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> > this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> As you pump water up to the bottom, you'll be pumping water up thru
> N feet of gravity. You'll also be pumping it against the extra weight
> of water in the barrel, presuming that you left both top holes open so
> there is no increase in atmospheric pressure in the barrel.
> So the amount of pressure will be the water column of N feet plus the
> height of the water in the barrel.
>
> When you pump water in thru the top, you'll be pumping water up thru
> "N+B" feet of gravity where "B" will be the extra height needed in
> order to run the hose up to the top of the barrel. This will always
> be higher than pumping up thru the bottom, so the water column will
> weigh more.
>
> Heck make it really tricky and try to suck a column of water up a
> height of more than 21 feet at roughly sea level... less in the
> mountains.
>
>
> >
I think you meant 31 ft. Shallow well pumps work very reliably at 26'
depth here (2,000 ft).
Harry K
> Jeepers proclaimed:
>
> > O.k. got an argument to solve.
> >
> > Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> > in deer camp).
> >
> > It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> > side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> Tighten all bungs. Drop a round or two from a hand loaded big bore
> belted magnum thru it. Watch barrel disintegrate.
>
> >
> > There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> > two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> > is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> >
> > The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> > barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> > top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> > is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> > the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> >
> > Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> > this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> As you pump water up to the bottom, you'll be pumping water up thru
> N feet of gravity. You'll also be pumping it against the extra weight
> of water in the barrel, presuming that you left both top holes open so
> there is no increase in atmospheric pressure in the barrel.
> So the amount of pressure will be the water column of N feet plus the
> height of the water in the barrel.
>
> When you pump water in thru the top, you'll be pumping water up thru
> "N+B" feet of gravity where "B" will be the extra height needed in
> order to run the hose up to the top of the barrel. This will always
> be higher than pumping up thru the bottom, so the water column will
> weigh more.
>
> Heck make it really tricky and try to suck a column of water up a
> height of more than 21 feet at roughly sea level... less in the
> mountains.
>
>
> >
I think you meant 31 ft. Shallow well pumps work very reliably at 26'
depth here (2,000 ft).
Harry K
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<qXapd.146112$R05.86029@attbi_s53>...
> Jeepers proclaimed:
>
> > O.k. got an argument to solve.
> >
> > Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> > in deer camp).
> >
> > It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> > side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> Tighten all bungs. Drop a round or two from a hand loaded big bore
> belted magnum thru it. Watch barrel disintegrate.
>
> >
> > There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> > two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> > is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> >
> > The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> > barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> > top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> > is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> > the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> >
> > Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> > this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> As you pump water up to the bottom, you'll be pumping water up thru
> N feet of gravity. You'll also be pumping it against the extra weight
> of water in the barrel, presuming that you left both top holes open so
> there is no increase in atmospheric pressure in the barrel.
> So the amount of pressure will be the water column of N feet plus the
> height of the water in the barrel.
>
> When you pump water in thru the top, you'll be pumping water up thru
> "N+B" feet of gravity where "B" will be the extra height needed in
> order to run the hose up to the top of the barrel. This will always
> be higher than pumping up thru the bottom, so the water column will
> weigh more.
>
> Heck make it really tricky and try to suck a column of water up a
> height of more than 21 feet at roughly sea level... less in the
> mountains.
>
>
> >
I think you meant 31 ft. Shallow well pumps work very reliably at 26'
depth here (2,000 ft).
Harry K
> Jeepers proclaimed:
>
> > O.k. got an argument to solve.
> >
> > Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> > in deer camp).
> >
> > It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> > side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> Tighten all bungs. Drop a round or two from a hand loaded big bore
> belted magnum thru it. Watch barrel disintegrate.
>
> >
> > There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> > two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> > is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> >
> > The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> > barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> > top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> > is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> > the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> >
> > Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> > this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> As you pump water up to the bottom, you'll be pumping water up thru
> N feet of gravity. You'll also be pumping it against the extra weight
> of water in the barrel, presuming that you left both top holes open so
> there is no increase in atmospheric pressure in the barrel.
> So the amount of pressure will be the water column of N feet plus the
> height of the water in the barrel.
>
> When you pump water in thru the top, you'll be pumping water up thru
> "N+B" feet of gravity where "B" will be the extra height needed in
> order to run the hose up to the top of the barrel. This will always
> be higher than pumping up thru the bottom, so the water column will
> weigh more.
>
> Heck make it really tricky and try to suck a column of water up a
> height of more than 21 feet at roughly sea level... less in the
> mountains.
>
>
> >
I think you meant 31 ft. Shallow well pumps work very reliably at 26'
depth here (2,000 ft).
Harry K
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<qXapd.146112$R05.86029@attbi_s53>...
> Jeepers proclaimed:
>
> > O.k. got an argument to solve.
> >
> > Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> > in deer camp).
> >
> > It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> > side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> Tighten all bungs. Drop a round or two from a hand loaded big bore
> belted magnum thru it. Watch barrel disintegrate.
>
> >
> > There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> > two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> > is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> >
> > The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> > barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> > top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> > is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> > the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> >
> > Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> > this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> As you pump water up to the bottom, you'll be pumping water up thru
> N feet of gravity. You'll also be pumping it against the extra weight
> of water in the barrel, presuming that you left both top holes open so
> there is no increase in atmospheric pressure in the barrel.
> So the amount of pressure will be the water column of N feet plus the
> height of the water in the barrel.
>
> When you pump water in thru the top, you'll be pumping water up thru
> "N+B" feet of gravity where "B" will be the extra height needed in
> order to run the hose up to the top of the barrel. This will always
> be higher than pumping up thru the bottom, so the water column will
> weigh more.
>
> Heck make it really tricky and try to suck a column of water up a
> height of more than 21 feet at roughly sea level... less in the
> mountains.
>
>
> >
I think you meant 31 ft. Shallow well pumps work very reliably at 26'
depth here (2,000 ft).
Harry K
> Jeepers proclaimed:
>
> > O.k. got an argument to solve.
> >
> > Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> > in deer camp).
> >
> > It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> > side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> Tighten all bungs. Drop a round or two from a hand loaded big bore
> belted magnum thru it. Watch barrel disintegrate.
>
> >
> > There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> > two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> > is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> >
> > The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> > barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> > top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> > is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> > the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> >
> > Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> > this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> As you pump water up to the bottom, you'll be pumping water up thru
> N feet of gravity. You'll also be pumping it against the extra weight
> of water in the barrel, presuming that you left both top holes open so
> there is no increase in atmospheric pressure in the barrel.
> So the amount of pressure will be the water column of N feet plus the
> height of the water in the barrel.
>
> When you pump water in thru the top, you'll be pumping water up thru
> "N+B" feet of gravity where "B" will be the extra height needed in
> order to run the hose up to the top of the barrel. This will always
> be higher than pumping up thru the bottom, so the water column will
> weigh more.
>
> Heck make it really tricky and try to suck a column of water up a
> height of more than 21 feet at roughly sea level... less in the
> mountains.
>
>
> >
I think you meant 31 ft. Shallow well pumps work very reliably at 26'
depth here (2,000 ft).
Harry K
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Re: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Key words here are "head pressure"---there would be no difference in the
force required to fill the upper barrel from any of the three bungs other
than "line"loss (if you shortened the hose to fill from the lower bung you
would have less line loss and therefore require less force to fill the drum,
but the difference wouldn't be measureable without NASA scientists and
equipment).
Jerry
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-F31228.08110724112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> --
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force required to fill the upper barrel from any of the three bungs other
than "line"loss (if you shortened the hose to fill from the lower bung you
would have less line loss and therefore require less force to fill the drum,
but the difference wouldn't be measureable without NASA scientists and
equipment).
Jerry
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-F31228.08110724112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> --
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Re: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Key words here are "head pressure"---there would be no difference in the
force required to fill the upper barrel from any of the three bungs other
than "line"loss (if you shortened the hose to fill from the lower bung you
would have less line loss and therefore require less force to fill the drum,
but the difference wouldn't be measureable without NASA scientists and
equipment).
Jerry
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-F31228.08110724112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> --
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force required to fill the upper barrel from any of the three bungs other
than "line"loss (if you shortened the hose to fill from the lower bung you
would have less line loss and therefore require less force to fill the drum,
but the difference wouldn't be measureable without NASA scientists and
equipment).
Jerry
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-F31228.08110724112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> --
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Re: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Key words here are "head pressure"---there would be no difference in the
force required to fill the upper barrel from any of the three bungs other
than "line"loss (if you shortened the hose to fill from the lower bung you
would have less line loss and therefore require less force to fill the drum,
but the difference wouldn't be measureable without NASA scientists and
equipment).
Jerry
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-F31228.08110724112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> --
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force required to fill the upper barrel from any of the three bungs other
than "line"loss (if you shortened the hose to fill from the lower bung you
would have less line loss and therefore require less force to fill the drum,
but the difference wouldn't be measureable without NASA scientists and
equipment).
Jerry
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-F31228.08110724112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
>
> There is another barrel in the bed of a pickup, full of water. There are
> two pumps, one hand diaphragm type or one typical 12v bilge type. This
> is the source of water to fill the high barrel.
>
> The argument is that the water can be just as easily pumped into the
> barrel through the drain bung, from below, as it could be through the
> top fill bung. There is an assertion that the pressure inside the hose
> is greater in the lower fill hose than in the upper fill hose, due to
> the weight of the water in the barrel as it fills.
>
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
>
> --
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#179
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Jeepers wrote:
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
The top would require a tiny bit more because it has to go over the rim
and down. Not enough difference to notice.
I'd recommend the top just in case the hose came out. Less water to get
hit with.
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
The top would require a tiny bit more because it has to go over the rim
and down. Not enough difference to notice.
I'd recommend the top just in case the hose came out. Less water to get
hit with.
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Re: OT: Physics/hydraulics of water and barrel
Jeepers wrote:
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
The top would require a tiny bit more because it has to go over the rim
and down. Not enough difference to notice.
I'd recommend the top just in case the hose came out. Less water to get
hit with.
> O.k. got an argument to solve.
>
> Have a 55 gal. barrel, on a 8 to 10 foot tall platform (to provide water
> in deer camp).
>
> It has three bungs. One on the bottom side (drain/flow). Two on the top
> side. One for vent, one for fill.
> Which, if any, fill location would require more or less force to fill
> this barrel: the top hole or the bottom hole?
The top would require a tiny bit more because it has to go over the rim
and down. Not enough difference to notice.
I'd recommend the top just in case the hose came out. Less water to get
hit with.