OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
11-06-2004, 02:40 PM
#51
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
"Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents an
> hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to make
> it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents an
> hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to make
> it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
11-06-2004, 03:48 PM
#52
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Of course, water is two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen, but how do
you efficiently separate the two? Bleeding heart liberals suggest using
a million dollar wind generator to supply the energy to electrify the
water. Like we did back in high school, and put two plates in a glass of
water hooked to an AC outlet, and watched the hydrogen bubbles come off.
But, ask yourself, what would it take to trap that gas, compress it into
a storage tank to supply your car? Answer: down to about twenty dollars
a gallon by the time the generator wears out and needs to be replaced.
Get real!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future, bright
> eyes ...water.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants. When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
you efficiently separate the two? Bleeding heart liberals suggest using
a million dollar wind generator to supply the energy to electrify the
water. Like we did back in high school, and put two plates in a glass of
water hooked to an AC outlet, and watched the hydrogen bubbles come off.
But, ask yourself, what would it take to trap that gas, compress it into
a storage tank to supply your car? Answer: down to about twenty dollars
a gallon by the time the generator wears out and needs to be replaced.
Get real!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future, bright
> eyes ...water.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants. When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
11-06-2004, 03:48 PM
#53
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Of course, water is two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen, but how do
you efficiently separate the two? Bleeding heart liberals suggest using
a million dollar wind generator to supply the energy to electrify the
water. Like we did back in high school, and put two plates in a glass of
water hooked to an AC outlet, and watched the hydrogen bubbles come off.
But, ask yourself, what would it take to trap that gas, compress it into
a storage tank to supply your car? Answer: down to about twenty dollars
a gallon by the time the generator wears out and needs to be replaced.
Get real!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future, bright
> eyes ...water.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants. When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
you efficiently separate the two? Bleeding heart liberals suggest using
a million dollar wind generator to supply the energy to electrify the
water. Like we did back in high school, and put two plates in a glass of
water hooked to an AC outlet, and watched the hydrogen bubbles come off.
But, ask yourself, what would it take to trap that gas, compress it into
a storage tank to supply your car? Answer: down to about twenty dollars
a gallon by the time the generator wears out and needs to be replaced.
Get real!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future, bright
> eyes ...water.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants. When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
11-06-2004, 04:12 PM
#54
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Nope, it was knowing my Brother-in-law was making for a buck a
mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
>
> Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents an
> > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to make
> > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
>
> Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents an
> > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to make
> > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
11-06-2004, 04:12 PM
#55
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Nope, it was knowing my Brother-in-law was making for a buck a
mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
>
> Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents an
> > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to make
> > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
>
> Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents an
> > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to make
> > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
11-06-2004, 04:31 PM
#56
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
So he profited $208 for the year, right?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418D3E43.2193AC3A@***.net...
> Nope, it was knowing my Brother-in-law was making for a buck a
> mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
> a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
> http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> > what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
> >
> > Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents
an
> > > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to
make
> > > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418D3E43.2193AC3A@***.net...
> Nope, it was knowing my Brother-in-law was making for a buck a
> mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
> a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
> http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> > what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
> >
> > Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents
an
> > > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to
make
> > > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
11-06-2004, 04:31 PM
#57
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
So he profited $208 for the year, right?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418D3E43.2193AC3A@***.net...
> Nope, it was knowing my Brother-in-law was making for a buck a
> mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
> a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
> http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> > what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
> >
> > Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents
an
> > > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to
make
> > > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418D3E43.2193AC3A@***.net...
> Nope, it was knowing my Brother-in-law was making for a buck a
> mile, year before last and paid taxes on an average income of ten cents
> a hour, but he "had" a shinny, quarter of a million dollar truck:
> http://www.----------.com/zeigler/truck.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > "Making" ten cents and hour I read as "grossing" ten cents an hour, like
> > what they pay Bangladeshi kids to make Nikes.
> >
> > Some months I'm in the red, most I'm in the black...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:418D25C7.5CCB1872@***.net...
> > > Then Matt, you're acting stupid, if you don't believe their are store
> > > owners like you not making a profit, and maybe only making ten cents
an
> > > hour, when they are hit with unforeseen expenses. Just like the owner,
> > > operator, truckers that are now with their fuel and insurance costs
> > > going through the roof, just making their truck payments, hoping to
make
> > > it until they can re-negotiate a new contract. Understand?
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I do, but I'm not dyslexic.
11-06-2004, 04:41 PM
#58
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Nope, every trucker runs two logs to make the payments, and drives
twenty hours, thousand miles a day. So $730 would be his share of
$365,000.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> So he profited $208 for the year, right?
twenty hours, thousand miles a day. So $730 would be his share of
$365,000.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> So he profited $208 for the year, right?
11-06-2004, 04:41 PM
#59
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Nope, every trucker runs two logs to make the payments, and drives
twenty hours, thousand miles a day. So $730 would be his share of
$365,000.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> So he profited $208 for the year, right?
twenty hours, thousand miles a day. So $730 would be his share of
$365,000.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> So he profited $208 for the year, right?
11-06-2004, 04:44 PM
#60
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Of course he right off little stuff, like the new water heater you
bought for your home.
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bought for your home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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