OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell trucking is
big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
>retailing it for twenty nine cent a gallon. And still diesel was
>retailed for twenty one cents a gallon (11¢ of that was tax) up and
>until the Mercedes started selling diesels in Kalifornia in '78, and
>domed the poor trucker and with that, had the domino effect of killing
>American industry, making it impossible to compete with China. F**Kin'
>diesel cars!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>
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big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
>retailing it for twenty nine cent a gallon. And still diesel was
>retailed for twenty one cents a gallon (11¢ of that was tax) up and
>until the Mercedes started selling diesels in Kalifornia in '78, and
>domed the poor trucker and with that, had the domino effect of killing
>American industry, making it impossible to compete with China. F**Kin'
>diesel cars!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Not many want to drive a truck for ten cents an hour, after
Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
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Wblane wrote:
>
> How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell trucking is
> big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Wblane wrote:
>
> How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell trucking is
> big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Not many want to drive a truck for ten cents an hour, after
Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Wblane wrote:
>
> How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell trucking is
> big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Wblane wrote:
>
> How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell trucking is
> big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Ten cents an hour only if you are a Bangladshi 11-year old.
Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
OTR pay scales, does it...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Not many want to drive a truck for ten cents an hour, after
> Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell
trucking is
> > big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
OTR pay scales, does it...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BF153.DB66282B@***.net...
> Not many want to drive a truck for ten cents an hour, after
> Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell
trucking is
> > big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Ten cents an hour only if you are a Bangladshi 11-year old.
Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
OTR pay scales, does it...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BF153.DB66282B@***.net...
> Not many want to drive a truck for ten cents an hour, after
> Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell
trucking is
> > big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
OTR pay scales, does it...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BF153.DB66282B@***.net...
> Not many want to drive a truck for ten cents an hour, after
> Mercedes cars drove up the price of diesel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > How did Mercedes doom the trucking industry? From what I can tell
trucking is
> > big business and the industry still needs more truckers.
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
I thought you owned your store, and were aware of profit and loss
statements.
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ten cents an hour only if you are a Bangladshi 11-year old.
>
> Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
> OTR pay scales, does it...
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ten cents an hour only if you are a Bangladshi 11-year old.
>
> Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
> OTR pay scales, does it...
#27
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
I thought you owned your store, and were aware of profit and loss
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ten cents an hour only if you are a Bangladshi 11-year old.
>
> Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
> OTR pay scales, does it...
statements.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ten cents an hour only if you are a Bangladshi 11-year old.
>
> Of course, the general cost of living rise has nothing to do with the going
> OTR pay scales, does it...
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
I believe that there is more to this story. I'm wondering why the oil
companies in the US are posting record profits in a depressed economy?
Maybe it's not so depressed now, but it was. Where I live, diesel was
recently 2.39 a gallon, the oil companies can hike the price to whatever
they want and our government does nothing to help. I heard the --------
about people 'topping off their tanks, causing the price of a gallon a gas
to go up by 50 cents a gallon overnight? It was right after the Prince
Edward Sound crash. They saw their oportunity then and have been sticking
it to us ever since. Heck, one local station posted $4.00 a gallon right
after desert storm began (they were boycotted for a while). The oil
companies have the American people by the nads and they know it. They will
get away with it until someone stops them.
I was thinking about adding a tank to my diesel truck to hold used cooking
oil. Then I can buy a conversion to run it on byproducts from McDonald's.
If I had the spare cash, I'd do it now. It's almost free fuel and there is
no carbon monoxide. It just needs to be filtered.
East Ohio Gas runs their trucks on natural gas, so there are alternatives.
We just need to get them in use and the oil will be less meaningful, demand
and price will fall.
Chip
The only thing worse than the oil companies are the damn cable companies.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BBFC7.E1D0EC50@***.net...
> It rained for the first time in six months week before last and
> washed out the pipe line between Los Angeles and Phoenix and prices
> instantly dropped by twenty cents for that week. I imagine they went up
> by that amount in Arizona, more if everyone topped off.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> I said the same thing, later than you in this thread. It doesn't really
>> answer his question, though.
>>
>> IANAPetroChemicalEngineer, but from what I gather "diesel is less refined
>> than gasoline" is something of a popular myth. Both are distillates of
>> crude oil, along with LNG, jet fuels, various waxes, lubricating greases
>> and asphalt, they just appear at different parts of the spectrum but they
>> are all "refined". Refiners can extend production of lighter products by
>> cracking heavier products, but it still all comes out of that $50 barrel
>> of crude and provides a product in higher demand by sacrificing a product
>> with lower demand.
>>
>> Fuel prices ain't ever going to go down in any real way. They will only
>> go up from here -- unless the next round of influenza kills off 1/3 of
>> the
>> energy-consuming population.
companies in the US are posting record profits in a depressed economy?
Maybe it's not so depressed now, but it was. Where I live, diesel was
recently 2.39 a gallon, the oil companies can hike the price to whatever
they want and our government does nothing to help. I heard the --------
about people 'topping off their tanks, causing the price of a gallon a gas
to go up by 50 cents a gallon overnight? It was right after the Prince
Edward Sound crash. They saw their oportunity then and have been sticking
it to us ever since. Heck, one local station posted $4.00 a gallon right
after desert storm began (they were boycotted for a while). The oil
companies have the American people by the nads and they know it. They will
get away with it until someone stops them.
I was thinking about adding a tank to my diesel truck to hold used cooking
oil. Then I can buy a conversion to run it on byproducts from McDonald's.
If I had the spare cash, I'd do it now. It's almost free fuel and there is
no carbon monoxide. It just needs to be filtered.
East Ohio Gas runs their trucks on natural gas, so there are alternatives.
We just need to get them in use and the oil will be less meaningful, demand
and price will fall.
Chip
The only thing worse than the oil companies are the damn cable companies.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BBFC7.E1D0EC50@***.net...
> It rained for the first time in six months week before last and
> washed out the pipe line between Los Angeles and Phoenix and prices
> instantly dropped by twenty cents for that week. I imagine they went up
> by that amount in Arizona, more if everyone topped off.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> I said the same thing, later than you in this thread. It doesn't really
>> answer his question, though.
>>
>> IANAPetroChemicalEngineer, but from what I gather "diesel is less refined
>> than gasoline" is something of a popular myth. Both are distillates of
>> crude oil, along with LNG, jet fuels, various waxes, lubricating greases
>> and asphalt, they just appear at different parts of the spectrum but they
>> are all "refined". Refiners can extend production of lighter products by
>> cracking heavier products, but it still all comes out of that $50 barrel
>> of crude and provides a product in higher demand by sacrificing a product
>> with lower demand.
>>
>> Fuel prices ain't ever going to go down in any real way. They will only
>> go up from here -- unless the next round of influenza kills off 1/3 of
>> the
>> energy-consuming population.
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
I believe that there is more to this story. I'm wondering why the oil
companies in the US are posting record profits in a depressed economy?
Maybe it's not so depressed now, but it was. Where I live, diesel was
recently 2.39 a gallon, the oil companies can hike the price to whatever
they want and our government does nothing to help. I heard the --------
about people 'topping off their tanks, causing the price of a gallon a gas
to go up by 50 cents a gallon overnight? It was right after the Prince
Edward Sound crash. They saw their oportunity then and have been sticking
it to us ever since. Heck, one local station posted $4.00 a gallon right
after desert storm began (they were boycotted for a while). The oil
companies have the American people by the nads and they know it. They will
get away with it until someone stops them.
I was thinking about adding a tank to my diesel truck to hold used cooking
oil. Then I can buy a conversion to run it on byproducts from McDonald's.
If I had the spare cash, I'd do it now. It's almost free fuel and there is
no carbon monoxide. It just needs to be filtered.
East Ohio Gas runs their trucks on natural gas, so there are alternatives.
We just need to get them in use and the oil will be less meaningful, demand
and price will fall.
Chip
The only thing worse than the oil companies are the damn cable companies.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BBFC7.E1D0EC50@***.net...
> It rained for the first time in six months week before last and
> washed out the pipe line between Los Angeles and Phoenix and prices
> instantly dropped by twenty cents for that week. I imagine they went up
> by that amount in Arizona, more if everyone topped off.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> I said the same thing, later than you in this thread. It doesn't really
>> answer his question, though.
>>
>> IANAPetroChemicalEngineer, but from what I gather "diesel is less refined
>> than gasoline" is something of a popular myth. Both are distillates of
>> crude oil, along with LNG, jet fuels, various waxes, lubricating greases
>> and asphalt, they just appear at different parts of the spectrum but they
>> are all "refined". Refiners can extend production of lighter products by
>> cracking heavier products, but it still all comes out of that $50 barrel
>> of crude and provides a product in higher demand by sacrificing a product
>> with lower demand.
>>
>> Fuel prices ain't ever going to go down in any real way. They will only
>> go up from here -- unless the next round of influenza kills off 1/3 of
>> the
>> energy-consuming population.
companies in the US are posting record profits in a depressed economy?
Maybe it's not so depressed now, but it was. Where I live, diesel was
recently 2.39 a gallon, the oil companies can hike the price to whatever
they want and our government does nothing to help. I heard the --------
about people 'topping off their tanks, causing the price of a gallon a gas
to go up by 50 cents a gallon overnight? It was right after the Prince
Edward Sound crash. They saw their oportunity then and have been sticking
it to us ever since. Heck, one local station posted $4.00 a gallon right
after desert storm began (they were boycotted for a while). The oil
companies have the American people by the nads and they know it. They will
get away with it until someone stops them.
I was thinking about adding a tank to my diesel truck to hold used cooking
oil. Then I can buy a conversion to run it on byproducts from McDonald's.
If I had the spare cash, I'd do it now. It's almost free fuel and there is
no carbon monoxide. It just needs to be filtered.
East Ohio Gas runs their trucks on natural gas, so there are alternatives.
We just need to get them in use and the oil will be less meaningful, demand
and price will fall.
Chip
The only thing worse than the oil companies are the damn cable companies.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418BBFC7.E1D0EC50@***.net...
> It rained for the first time in six months week before last and
> washed out the pipe line between Los Angeles and Phoenix and prices
> instantly dropped by twenty cents for that week. I imagine they went up
> by that amount in Arizona, more if everyone topped off.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> I said the same thing, later than you in this thread. It doesn't really
>> answer his question, though.
>>
>> IANAPetroChemicalEngineer, but from what I gather "diesel is less refined
>> than gasoline" is something of a popular myth. Both are distillates of
>> crude oil, along with LNG, jet fuels, various waxes, lubricating greases
>> and asphalt, they just appear at different parts of the spectrum but they
>> are all "refined". Refiners can extend production of lighter products by
>> cracking heavier products, but it still all comes out of that $50 barrel
>> of crude and provides a product in higher demand by sacrificing a product
>> with lower demand.
>>
>> Fuel prices ain't ever going to go down in any real way. They will only
>> go up from here -- unless the next round of influenza kills off 1/3 of
>> the
>> energy-consuming population.
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Hi Chip,
Would you rather pay what other countries are paying for fuel? They
turn about a five percent profit, when most businesses take fifty
percent or more. Compare other products:
http://www2.inhis.com/HumorNew/humor.asp?id=2784
I think once people see the only ones making money off the Mickey
D's grease are the ones selling the books and refinement equipment:
http://www.veggies.org.uk/graphics/bioproc.jpg But then there's sucker
born every minute, and fool and their money are some parted.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chip wrote:
>
> I believe that there is more to this story. I'm wondering why the oil
> companies in the US are posting record profits in a depressed economy?
> Maybe it's not so depressed now, but it was. Where I live, diesel was
> recently 2.39 a gallon, the oil companies can hike the price to whatever
> they want and our government does nothing to help. I heard the --------
> about people 'topping off their tanks, causing the price of a gallon a gas
> to go up by 50 cents a gallon overnight? It was right after the Prince
> Edward Sound crash. They saw their oportunity then and have been sticking
> it to us ever since. Heck, one local station posted $4.00 a gallon right
> after desert storm began (they were boycotted for a while). The oil
> companies have the American people by the nads and they know it. They will
> get away with it until someone stops them.
>
> I was thinking about adding a tank to my diesel truck to hold used cooking
> oil. Then I can buy a conversion to run it on byproducts from McDonald's.
> If I had the spare cash, I'd do it now. It's almost free fuel and there is
> no carbon monoxide. It just needs to be filtered.
>
> East Ohio Gas runs their trucks on natural gas, so there are alternatives.
> We just need to get them in use and the oil will be less meaningful, demand
> and price will fall.
>
> Chip
Would you rather pay what other countries are paying for fuel? They
turn about a five percent profit, when most businesses take fifty
percent or more. Compare other products:
http://www2.inhis.com/HumorNew/humor.asp?id=2784
I think once people see the only ones making money off the Mickey
D's grease are the ones selling the books and refinement equipment:
http://www.veggies.org.uk/graphics/bioproc.jpg But then there's sucker
born every minute, and fool and their money are some parted.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chip wrote:
>
> I believe that there is more to this story. I'm wondering why the oil
> companies in the US are posting record profits in a depressed economy?
> Maybe it's not so depressed now, but it was. Where I live, diesel was
> recently 2.39 a gallon, the oil companies can hike the price to whatever
> they want and our government does nothing to help. I heard the --------
> about people 'topping off their tanks, causing the price of a gallon a gas
> to go up by 50 cents a gallon overnight? It was right after the Prince
> Edward Sound crash. They saw their oportunity then and have been sticking
> it to us ever since. Heck, one local station posted $4.00 a gallon right
> after desert storm began (they were boycotted for a while). The oil
> companies have the American people by the nads and they know it. They will
> get away with it until someone stops them.
>
> I was thinking about adding a tank to my diesel truck to hold used cooking
> oil. Then I can buy a conversion to run it on byproducts from McDonald's.
> If I had the spare cash, I'd do it now. It's almost free fuel and there is
> no carbon monoxide. It just needs to be filtered.
>
> East Ohio Gas runs their trucks on natural gas, so there are alternatives.
> We just need to get them in use and the oil will be less meaningful, demand
> and price will fall.
>
> Chip