Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope
>> all the good folks in this group have and are using message filters
>> and/or kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship
>> so to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well.
>> Keep those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>
> I don't use kill files so see all the garbage.
>
> It's really too bad there are a couple idiots determined to kill the group.
>
> Killfiles don't stop these ******** because anyone coming to the group
> just sees a garbage group not worth wading through. We can't even
> switch over the tech area to alt.jeep-l because these two ******** will
> just follow and wreck that group too.
>
> Too bad no one actually knows Bill personally so they could drop in on
> him to see if he really needs the help he comes across as needing. He
> must be on some bad meds these days or something.
>
> Oh well, I am likely to hang in a bit longer only because I am bored and
> stuck home disabled, but not much longer....
>
> Mike


I think it's the lack of meds more so than bad meds. He got sucked in to
the whole netcop thing and let it go to his head, and now for some
reason he just can't let it go. What he needs to do is shut the computer
off for a few weeks, and take the family on a vacation or something.

I think there are probably enough good forums out there that the good
people here could migrate to, but if enough people felt that a moderated
forum would be the answer, I would be willing to help get one set up. I
have set up a few commercial forums in the past, but it has been a while.

Chris

 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope
>> all the good folks in this group have and are using message filters
>> and/or kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship
>> so to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well.
>> Keep those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>
> I don't use kill files so see all the garbage.
>
> It's really too bad there are a couple idiots determined to kill the group.
>
> Killfiles don't stop these ******** because anyone coming to the group
> just sees a garbage group not worth wading through. We can't even
> switch over the tech area to alt.jeep-l because these two ******** will
> just follow and wreck that group too.
>
> Too bad no one actually knows Bill personally so they could drop in on
> him to see if he really needs the help he comes across as needing. He
> must be on some bad meds these days or something.
>
> Oh well, I am likely to hang in a bit longer only because I am bored and
> stuck home disabled, but not much longer....
>
> Mike


I think it's the lack of meds more so than bad meds. He got sucked in to
the whole netcop thing and let it go to his head, and now for some
reason he just can't let it go. What he needs to do is shut the computer
off for a few weeks, and take the family on a vacation or something.

I think there are probably enough good forums out there that the good
people here could migrate to, but if enough people felt that a moderated
forum would be the answer, I would be willing to help get one set up. I
have set up a few commercial forums in the past, but it has been a while.

Chris

 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope
>> all the good folks in this group have and are using message filters
>> and/or kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship
>> so to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well.
>> Keep those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>
> I don't use kill files so see all the garbage.
>
> It's really too bad there are a couple idiots determined to kill the group.
>
> Killfiles don't stop these ******** because anyone coming to the group
> just sees a garbage group not worth wading through. We can't even
> switch over the tech area to alt.jeep-l because these two ******** will
> just follow and wreck that group too.
>
> Too bad no one actually knows Bill personally so they could drop in on
> him to see if he really needs the help he comes across as needing. He
> must be on some bad meds these days or something.
>
> Oh well, I am likely to hang in a bit longer only because I am bored and
> stuck home disabled, but not much longer....
>
> Mike


I think it's the lack of meds more so than bad meds. He got sucked in to
the whole netcop thing and let it go to his head, and now for some
reason he just can't let it go. What he needs to do is shut the computer
off for a few weeks, and take the family on a vacation or something.

I think there are probably enough good forums out there that the good
people here could migrate to, but if enough people felt that a moderated
forum would be the answer, I would be willing to help get one set up. I
have set up a few commercial forums in the past, but it has been a while.

Chris

 

It has sure changed in 10 years. Folks from here used to get together
for RAMJ+W runs, this Usenet group had high quality T-shirts made, one
of which I am wearing right now, hats made, etc...

I'll bet I have met over 50 folks from this group on runs I organized,
from day trips to take folks out to play and learn what their 4x4 can
do, especially come first snow, to 10 day Deep Canadian Bush runs with
folks from all over North America showing up.

RAMJ+W has even made the local papers as an 'organized' Internet group
involved in local off road area clean ups. 'WE' RAMJ+W, had 20 vehicles
average show up each weekend for 3 weekends on that clean up. We even
got a 'good' writeup as a Jeep Group in the Land Rover Magazine.

Most of these folks have given up on the group.

Oh well it was nice while it lasted and my family and I have met some
great people from here that have remained good friends with us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dean wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
>> the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
>> kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
>> to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
>> those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>> --
>> FRH
>
>

 

It has sure changed in 10 years. Folks from here used to get together
for RAMJ+W runs, this Usenet group had high quality T-shirts made, one
of which I am wearing right now, hats made, etc...

I'll bet I have met over 50 folks from this group on runs I organized,
from day trips to take folks out to play and learn what their 4x4 can
do, especially come first snow, to 10 day Deep Canadian Bush runs with
folks from all over North America showing up.

RAMJ+W has even made the local papers as an 'organized' Internet group
involved in local off road area clean ups. 'WE' RAMJ+W, had 20 vehicles
average show up each weekend for 3 weekends on that clean up. We even
got a 'good' writeup as a Jeep Group in the Land Rover Magazine.

Most of these folks have given up on the group.

Oh well it was nice while it lasted and my family and I have met some
great people from here that have remained good friends with us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dean wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
>> the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
>> kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
>> to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
>> those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>> --
>> FRH
>
>

 

It has sure changed in 10 years. Folks from here used to get together
for RAMJ+W runs, this Usenet group had high quality T-shirts made, one
of which I am wearing right now, hats made, etc...

I'll bet I have met over 50 folks from this group on runs I organized,
from day trips to take folks out to play and learn what their 4x4 can
do, especially come first snow, to 10 day Deep Canadian Bush runs with
folks from all over North America showing up.

RAMJ+W has even made the local papers as an 'organized' Internet group
involved in local off road area clean ups. 'WE' RAMJ+W, had 20 vehicles
average show up each weekend for 3 weekends on that clean up. We even
got a 'good' writeup as a Jeep Group in the Land Rover Magazine.

Most of these folks have given up on the group.

Oh well it was nice while it lasted and my family and I have met some
great people from here that have remained good friends with us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dean wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
>> the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
>> kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
>> to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
>> those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>> --
>> FRH
>
>

 

It has sure changed in 10 years. Folks from here used to get together
for RAMJ+W runs, this Usenet group had high quality T-shirts made, one
of which I am wearing right now, hats made, etc...

I'll bet I have met over 50 folks from this group on runs I organized,
from day trips to take folks out to play and learn what their 4x4 can
do, especially come first snow, to 10 day Deep Canadian Bush runs with
folks from all over North America showing up.

RAMJ+W has even made the local papers as an 'organized' Internet group
involved in local off road area clean ups. 'WE' RAMJ+W, had 20 vehicles
average show up each weekend for 3 weekends on that clean up. We even
got a 'good' writeup as a Jeep Group in the Land Rover Magazine.

Most of these folks have given up on the group.

Oh well it was nice while it lasted and my family and I have met some
great people from here that have remained good friends with us.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Dean wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>> My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
>> this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
>> I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
>> the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
>> kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
>> "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
>> to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
>> those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
>> --
>> FRH
>
>

 

On Jul 13, 10:58 am, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>
> > My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
> > this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
> > I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
> > the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
> > kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
> > "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
> > to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
> > those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
> > --
> > FRH


I use Google groups so I see it all too.

I've read and learned a lot here the past 6 years of owning my Jeep.
I've turned to moderated forums and have learned a great deal in these
forums as well.


Too bad its turned out this way.

I'm only reading/posting here now as I'm curious how long this can go
on?
Its been much longer than I expected. :-(

 

On Jul 13, 10:58 am, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>
> > My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
> > this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
> > I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
> > the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
> > kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
> > "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
> > to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
> > those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
> > --
> > FRH


I use Google groups so I see it all too.

I've read and learned a lot here the past 6 years of owning my Jeep.
I've turned to moderated forums and have learned a great deal in these
forums as well.


Too bad its turned out this way.

I'm only reading/posting here now as I'm curious how long this can go
on?
Its been much longer than I expected. :-(

 

On Jul 13, 10:58 am, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I first started lurking here in 1997 this was an awesome group.
> There were some jerks and fanboys, like Harry B., but for the most
> part it was a good place to be. In the past couple of years its begun
> to look like one of those neighborhoods that used to be nice. Some of
> the neighbors take care of the place, but there are a few crack houses
> dragging the whole place down. But this is Usenet and there isn't a
> thing you can do about those lousy neighbors. Such as in my case
> where my ISP doesn't provide a news server so I have to use google. I
> get to see the full onslaught of the problem.
>
> The only real answer is for everyone to move to a forum that allows
> moderation and then the crackpots can be told to behave or be banned.
> If I knew where else the regulars were hanging out I'd go there too.
>
> Dean
>
> On Jul 13, 8:13 am, "Frank_v7.0" <n...@no.net> wrote:
>
> > My message filter (in Mozilla Thunderbird) has deleted 225 messages in
> > this group since last night. I haven't been keeping exact counts, but
> > I'm sure the previous "high" count was in the 80s. I sincerely hope all
> > the good folks in this group have and are using message filters and/or
> > kill files. I will continue to read this group and occasionally
> > "contribute", but I'm sure that some, possibly many have, jumped ship so
> > to speak. To those that remain, I wish you hardy survivors well. Keep
> > those filters and kill files up to date. :-)
> > --
> > FRH


I use Google groups so I see it all too.

I've read and learned a lot here the past 6 years of owning my Jeep.
I've turned to moderated forums and have learned a great deal in these
forums as well.


Too bad its turned out this way.

I'm only reading/posting here now as I'm curious how long this can go
on?
Its been much longer than I expected. :-(