Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
12-08-2003, 08:47 PM
#101
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Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
ooo! one guy kept on calling it a "Sports" instead of "Sport". I looked at
my buddy and said "this isn't Huey Lewis and the News, man."
He even tried to call the service department to see how much it woudl cost
to add ABS. Before I left he had to introduce me to his Mgr (probably
because I didnt' bite) and his manager told him in a very condescending way
that ABS is a factory option and that he has to ask some guy to see if he
can locate the Jeep I want.
Stupid salesman never called me back, thank god.
Yesterday one of the salesmen called me back (finally) and tried to sell me
a Rubicon because it was the color I wanted (white) and insisted that it has
ABS "because they're disc brakes". Jacka$$es.
You'd think they'd try to know just a little about what they were peddling
(note: in order to "sell" you need to know somethign - anything - about your
product).
"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:BuQAb.2458$W02.365412@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
Hey, I did the same thing. When I sent out the quote requests I was sure to
check off that I wanted to be contacted by e-mail only. A few got back to
me with price quotes via e-mail. But the rest left message after message
on my voice mail. My bad for giving the bastards my #, but still. And the
ones that called didn't call with quotes, they wanted me to come down to
their place. One dealer e-mailed me back and said they'd like to invite me
down for a test drive. I wrote him back saying I'd already test driven
several Rubis and that I just wanted a quote so I knew who I was going to
give my business to. Never heard from that scumbag salesman again! Did you
find that when you went to the dealers you knew more about their product
than they did?? Idiots!
Valued User wrote:
I'm not ordering from an internet dealer, however I did check out the prices
at Edmunds.com and another dealer that is internet to compare what type of
deal I was getting. Mind you, when I purchased my XJ in 96 up in NJ NO Jeep
dealer gave "deals" - what was on the sticker is what they sold them at
minus any mfr incentives. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that
they "deal" down here in Houston.
I went to Jeep.com and built a jeep to my liking. You can then send the Jeep
you built to some local dealers. I sent it to about 5 (4 local, 1 40 miles
away which is actually closer timewise because Houston traffic sucks). They
emailed me back their prices. Well, a few of them did. Most of them said "we
don't have the White that you're looking for and totally disregarded the
fact that I went thru the trouble of stating White, Dual Top, and ABS and
told me to look at their inventory which they probably don't realize is
accessible from the Jeep website.
One thing I've learned is that some of these sales people absolutely don't
know how to read email and don't care what the customer wants and just try
and get you into the dealership and give you high pressure tatics. I stayed
away from those guys.
The place I ended up ordering from was a local dealer that responded to my
emails. I dealt with a "Fleet" salesman - at this dealership they also
handle Internet sales/inquiries. Absolutely the most unpushiest, honest, and
friendliest guys I've done business with in terms of car sales so far. He
gave me the best (lowest) deal over email (including 3 free oil changes). He
also ensured me that I wouldn't lose the rebate and that if the price were
to change for the worse I was in no way obligated to buy [since we have a
signed contract for a certain price].
-R
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031206201320541-0900@news.newsguy.com...
On 06 Dec 2003 01:14 PM, Valued User posted the following:
No pushy tatics to sell me undercoating or anything - I later learned
that the internet sales guys are in fleet sales. G/F that worked at a
bank says fleet guys aren't as pressured as regular sales and that
their commissions aren't the same as regular salespeople on the floor
so they'll come out with a good price off the bat.
If you don't mind my asking, which internet dealer are you ordering from?
----------------------------------------------------
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my buddy and said "this isn't Huey Lewis and the News, man."
He even tried to call the service department to see how much it woudl cost
to add ABS. Before I left he had to introduce me to his Mgr (probably
because I didnt' bite) and his manager told him in a very condescending way
that ABS is a factory option and that he has to ask some guy to see if he
can locate the Jeep I want.
Stupid salesman never called me back, thank god.
Yesterday one of the salesmen called me back (finally) and tried to sell me
a Rubicon because it was the color I wanted (white) and insisted that it has
ABS "because they're disc brakes". Jacka$$es.
You'd think they'd try to know just a little about what they were peddling
(note: in order to "sell" you need to know somethign - anything - about your
product).
"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:BuQAb.2458$W02.365412@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
Hey, I did the same thing. When I sent out the quote requests I was sure to
check off that I wanted to be contacted by e-mail only. A few got back to
me with price quotes via e-mail. But the rest left message after message
on my voice mail. My bad for giving the bastards my #, but still. And the
ones that called didn't call with quotes, they wanted me to come down to
their place. One dealer e-mailed me back and said they'd like to invite me
down for a test drive. I wrote him back saying I'd already test driven
several Rubis and that I just wanted a quote so I knew who I was going to
give my business to. Never heard from that scumbag salesman again! Did you
find that when you went to the dealers you knew more about their product
than they did?? Idiots!
Valued User wrote:
I'm not ordering from an internet dealer, however I did check out the prices
at Edmunds.com and another dealer that is internet to compare what type of
deal I was getting. Mind you, when I purchased my XJ in 96 up in NJ NO Jeep
dealer gave "deals" - what was on the sticker is what they sold them at
minus any mfr incentives. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that
they "deal" down here in Houston.
I went to Jeep.com and built a jeep to my liking. You can then send the Jeep
you built to some local dealers. I sent it to about 5 (4 local, 1 40 miles
away which is actually closer timewise because Houston traffic sucks). They
emailed me back their prices. Well, a few of them did. Most of them said "we
don't have the White that you're looking for and totally disregarded the
fact that I went thru the trouble of stating White, Dual Top, and ABS and
told me to look at their inventory which they probably don't realize is
accessible from the Jeep website.
One thing I've learned is that some of these sales people absolutely don't
know how to read email and don't care what the customer wants and just try
and get you into the dealership and give you high pressure tatics. I stayed
away from those guys.
The place I ended up ordering from was a local dealer that responded to my
emails. I dealt with a "Fleet" salesman - at this dealership they also
handle Internet sales/inquiries. Absolutely the most unpushiest, honest, and
friendliest guys I've done business with in terms of car sales so far. He
gave me the best (lowest) deal over email (including 3 free oil changes). He
also ensured me that I wouldn't lose the rebate and that if the price were
to change for the worse I was in no way obligated to buy [since we have a
signed contract for a certain price].
-R
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031206201320541-0900@news.newsguy.com...
On 06 Dec 2003 01:14 PM, Valued User posted the following:
No pushy tatics to sell me undercoating or anything - I later learned
that the internet sales guys are in fleet sales. G/F that worked at a
bank says fleet guys aren't as pressured as regular sales and that
their commissions aren't the same as regular salespeople on the floor
so they'll come out with a good price off the bat.
If you don't mind my asking, which internet dealer are you ordering from?
----------------------------------------------------
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12-08-2003, 08:47 PM
#102
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Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
ooo! one guy kept on calling it a "Sports" instead of "Sport". I looked at
my buddy and said "this isn't Huey Lewis and the News, man."
He even tried to call the service department to see how much it woudl cost
to add ABS. Before I left he had to introduce me to his Mgr (probably
because I didnt' bite) and his manager told him in a very condescending way
that ABS is a factory option and that he has to ask some guy to see if he
can locate the Jeep I want.
Stupid salesman never called me back, thank god.
Yesterday one of the salesmen called me back (finally) and tried to sell me
a Rubicon because it was the color I wanted (white) and insisted that it has
ABS "because they're disc brakes". Jacka$$es.
You'd think they'd try to know just a little about what they were peddling
(note: in order to "sell" you need to know somethign - anything - about your
product).
"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:BuQAb.2458$W02.365412@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
Hey, I did the same thing. When I sent out the quote requests I was sure to
check off that I wanted to be contacted by e-mail only. A few got back to
me with price quotes via e-mail. But the rest left message after message
on my voice mail. My bad for giving the bastards my #, but still. And the
ones that called didn't call with quotes, they wanted me to come down to
their place. One dealer e-mailed me back and said they'd like to invite me
down for a test drive. I wrote him back saying I'd already test driven
several Rubis and that I just wanted a quote so I knew who I was going to
give my business to. Never heard from that scumbag salesman again! Did you
find that when you went to the dealers you knew more about their product
than they did?? Idiots!
Valued User wrote:
I'm not ordering from an internet dealer, however I did check out the prices
at Edmunds.com and another dealer that is internet to compare what type of
deal I was getting. Mind you, when I purchased my XJ in 96 up in NJ NO Jeep
dealer gave "deals" - what was on the sticker is what they sold them at
minus any mfr incentives. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that
they "deal" down here in Houston.
I went to Jeep.com and built a jeep to my liking. You can then send the Jeep
you built to some local dealers. I sent it to about 5 (4 local, 1 40 miles
away which is actually closer timewise because Houston traffic sucks). They
emailed me back their prices. Well, a few of them did. Most of them said "we
don't have the White that you're looking for and totally disregarded the
fact that I went thru the trouble of stating White, Dual Top, and ABS and
told me to look at their inventory which they probably don't realize is
accessible from the Jeep website.
One thing I've learned is that some of these sales people absolutely don't
know how to read email and don't care what the customer wants and just try
and get you into the dealership and give you high pressure tatics. I stayed
away from those guys.
The place I ended up ordering from was a local dealer that responded to my
emails. I dealt with a "Fleet" salesman - at this dealership they also
handle Internet sales/inquiries. Absolutely the most unpushiest, honest, and
friendliest guys I've done business with in terms of car sales so far. He
gave me the best (lowest) deal over email (including 3 free oil changes). He
also ensured me that I wouldn't lose the rebate and that if the price were
to change for the worse I was in no way obligated to buy [since we have a
signed contract for a certain price].
-R
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031206201320541-0900@news.newsguy.com...
On 06 Dec 2003 01:14 PM, Valued User posted the following:
No pushy tatics to sell me undercoating or anything - I later learned
that the internet sales guys are in fleet sales. G/F that worked at a
bank says fleet guys aren't as pressured as regular sales and that
their commissions aren't the same as regular salespeople on the floor
so they'll come out with a good price off the bat.
If you don't mind my asking, which internet dealer are you ordering from?
----------------------------------------------------
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my buddy and said "this isn't Huey Lewis and the News, man."
He even tried to call the service department to see how much it woudl cost
to add ABS. Before I left he had to introduce me to his Mgr (probably
because I didnt' bite) and his manager told him in a very condescending way
that ABS is a factory option and that he has to ask some guy to see if he
can locate the Jeep I want.
Stupid salesman never called me back, thank god.
Yesterday one of the salesmen called me back (finally) and tried to sell me
a Rubicon because it was the color I wanted (white) and insisted that it has
ABS "because they're disc brakes". Jacka$$es.
You'd think they'd try to know just a little about what they were peddling
(note: in order to "sell" you need to know somethign - anything - about your
product).
"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:BuQAb.2458$W02.365412@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
Hey, I did the same thing. When I sent out the quote requests I was sure to
check off that I wanted to be contacted by e-mail only. A few got back to
me with price quotes via e-mail. But the rest left message after message
on my voice mail. My bad for giving the bastards my #, but still. And the
ones that called didn't call with quotes, they wanted me to come down to
their place. One dealer e-mailed me back and said they'd like to invite me
down for a test drive. I wrote him back saying I'd already test driven
several Rubis and that I just wanted a quote so I knew who I was going to
give my business to. Never heard from that scumbag salesman again! Did you
find that when you went to the dealers you knew more about their product
than they did?? Idiots!
Valued User wrote:
I'm not ordering from an internet dealer, however I did check out the prices
at Edmunds.com and another dealer that is internet to compare what type of
deal I was getting. Mind you, when I purchased my XJ in 96 up in NJ NO Jeep
dealer gave "deals" - what was on the sticker is what they sold them at
minus any mfr incentives. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that
they "deal" down here in Houston.
I went to Jeep.com and built a jeep to my liking. You can then send the Jeep
you built to some local dealers. I sent it to about 5 (4 local, 1 40 miles
away which is actually closer timewise because Houston traffic sucks). They
emailed me back their prices. Well, a few of them did. Most of them said "we
don't have the White that you're looking for and totally disregarded the
fact that I went thru the trouble of stating White, Dual Top, and ABS and
told me to look at their inventory which they probably don't realize is
accessible from the Jeep website.
One thing I've learned is that some of these sales people absolutely don't
know how to read email and don't care what the customer wants and just try
and get you into the dealership and give you high pressure tatics. I stayed
away from those guys.
The place I ended up ordering from was a local dealer that responded to my
emails. I dealt with a "Fleet" salesman - at this dealership they also
handle Internet sales/inquiries. Absolutely the most unpushiest, honest, and
friendliest guys I've done business with in terms of car sales so far. He
gave me the best (lowest) deal over email (including 3 free oil changes). He
also ensured me that I wouldn't lose the rebate and that if the price were
to change for the worse I was in no way obligated to buy [since we have a
signed contract for a certain price].
-R
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031206201320541-0900@news.newsguy.com...
On 06 Dec 2003 01:14 PM, Valued User posted the following:
No pushy tatics to sell me undercoating or anything - I later learned
that the internet sales guys are in fleet sales. G/F that worked at a
bank says fleet guys aren't as pressured as regular sales and that
their commissions aren't the same as regular salespeople on the floor
so they'll come out with a good price off the bat.
If you don't mind my asking, which internet dealer are you ordering from?
----------------------------------------------------
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12-08-2003, 08:47 PM
#103
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Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
ooo! one guy kept on calling it a "Sports" instead of "Sport". I looked at
my buddy and said "this isn't Huey Lewis and the News, man."
He even tried to call the service department to see how much it woudl cost
to add ABS. Before I left he had to introduce me to his Mgr (probably
because I didnt' bite) and his manager told him in a very condescending way
that ABS is a factory option and that he has to ask some guy to see if he
can locate the Jeep I want.
Stupid salesman never called me back, thank god.
Yesterday one of the salesmen called me back (finally) and tried to sell me
a Rubicon because it was the color I wanted (white) and insisted that it has
ABS "because they're disc brakes". Jacka$$es.
You'd think they'd try to know just a little about what they were peddling
(note: in order to "sell" you need to know somethign - anything - about your
product).
"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:BuQAb.2458$W02.365412@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
Hey, I did the same thing. When I sent out the quote requests I was sure to
check off that I wanted to be contacted by e-mail only. A few got back to
me with price quotes via e-mail. But the rest left message after message
on my voice mail. My bad for giving the bastards my #, but still. And the
ones that called didn't call with quotes, they wanted me to come down to
their place. One dealer e-mailed me back and said they'd like to invite me
down for a test drive. I wrote him back saying I'd already test driven
several Rubis and that I just wanted a quote so I knew who I was going to
give my business to. Never heard from that scumbag salesman again! Did you
find that when you went to the dealers you knew more about their product
than they did?? Idiots!
Valued User wrote:
I'm not ordering from an internet dealer, however I did check out the prices
at Edmunds.com and another dealer that is internet to compare what type of
deal I was getting. Mind you, when I purchased my XJ in 96 up in NJ NO Jeep
dealer gave "deals" - what was on the sticker is what they sold them at
minus any mfr incentives. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that
they "deal" down here in Houston.
I went to Jeep.com and built a jeep to my liking. You can then send the Jeep
you built to some local dealers. I sent it to about 5 (4 local, 1 40 miles
away which is actually closer timewise because Houston traffic sucks). They
emailed me back their prices. Well, a few of them did. Most of them said "we
don't have the White that you're looking for and totally disregarded the
fact that I went thru the trouble of stating White, Dual Top, and ABS and
told me to look at their inventory which they probably don't realize is
accessible from the Jeep website.
One thing I've learned is that some of these sales people absolutely don't
know how to read email and don't care what the customer wants and just try
and get you into the dealership and give you high pressure tatics. I stayed
away from those guys.
The place I ended up ordering from was a local dealer that responded to my
emails. I dealt with a "Fleet" salesman - at this dealership they also
handle Internet sales/inquiries. Absolutely the most unpushiest, honest, and
friendliest guys I've done business with in terms of car sales so far. He
gave me the best (lowest) deal over email (including 3 free oil changes). He
also ensured me that I wouldn't lose the rebate and that if the price were
to change for the worse I was in no way obligated to buy [since we have a
signed contract for a certain price].
-R
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031206201320541-0900@news.newsguy.com...
On 06 Dec 2003 01:14 PM, Valued User posted the following:
No pushy tatics to sell me undercoating or anything - I later learned
that the internet sales guys are in fleet sales. G/F that worked at a
bank says fleet guys aren't as pressured as regular sales and that
their commissions aren't the same as regular salespeople on the floor
so they'll come out with a good price off the bat.
If you don't mind my asking, which internet dealer are you ordering from?
----------------------------------------------------
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my buddy and said "this isn't Huey Lewis and the News, man."
He even tried to call the service department to see how much it woudl cost
to add ABS. Before I left he had to introduce me to his Mgr (probably
because I didnt' bite) and his manager told him in a very condescending way
that ABS is a factory option and that he has to ask some guy to see if he
can locate the Jeep I want.
Stupid salesman never called me back, thank god.
Yesterday one of the salesmen called me back (finally) and tried to sell me
a Rubicon because it was the color I wanted (white) and insisted that it has
ABS "because they're disc brakes". Jacka$$es.
You'd think they'd try to know just a little about what they were peddling
(note: in order to "sell" you need to know somethign - anything - about your
product).
"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:BuQAb.2458$W02.365412@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ...
Hey, I did the same thing. When I sent out the quote requests I was sure to
check off that I wanted to be contacted by e-mail only. A few got back to
me with price quotes via e-mail. But the rest left message after message
on my voice mail. My bad for giving the bastards my #, but still. And the
ones that called didn't call with quotes, they wanted me to come down to
their place. One dealer e-mailed me back and said they'd like to invite me
down for a test drive. I wrote him back saying I'd already test driven
several Rubis and that I just wanted a quote so I knew who I was going to
give my business to. Never heard from that scumbag salesman again! Did you
find that when you went to the dealers you knew more about their product
than they did?? Idiots!
Valued User wrote:
I'm not ordering from an internet dealer, however I did check out the prices
at Edmunds.com and another dealer that is internet to compare what type of
deal I was getting. Mind you, when I purchased my XJ in 96 up in NJ NO Jeep
dealer gave "deals" - what was on the sticker is what they sold them at
minus any mfr incentives. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that
they "deal" down here in Houston.
I went to Jeep.com and built a jeep to my liking. You can then send the Jeep
you built to some local dealers. I sent it to about 5 (4 local, 1 40 miles
away which is actually closer timewise because Houston traffic sucks). They
emailed me back their prices. Well, a few of them did. Most of them said "we
don't have the White that you're looking for and totally disregarded the
fact that I went thru the trouble of stating White, Dual Top, and ABS and
told me to look at their inventory which they probably don't realize is
accessible from the Jeep website.
One thing I've learned is that some of these sales people absolutely don't
know how to read email and don't care what the customer wants and just try
and get you into the dealership and give you high pressure tatics. I stayed
away from those guys.
The place I ended up ordering from was a local dealer that responded to my
emails. I dealt with a "Fleet" salesman - at this dealership they also
handle Internet sales/inquiries. Absolutely the most unpushiest, honest, and
friendliest guys I've done business with in terms of car sales so far. He
gave me the best (lowest) deal over email (including 3 free oil changes). He
also ensured me that I wouldn't lose the rebate and that if the price were
to change for the worse I was in no way obligated to buy [since we have a
signed contract for a certain price].
-R
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031206201320541-0900@news.newsguy.com...
On 06 Dec 2003 01:14 PM, Valued User posted the following:
No pushy tatics to sell me undercoating or anything - I later learned
that the internet sales guys are in fleet sales. G/F that worked at a
bank says fleet guys aren't as pressured as regular sales and that
their commissions aren't the same as regular salespeople on the floor
so they'll come out with a good price off the bat.
If you don't mind my asking, which internet dealer are you ordering from?
----------------------------------------------------
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12-08-2003, 08:57 PM
#104
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Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
from the jeep site when you click the incentives image button:
"See dealer for qualifications and eligibility."
"Now thru January, 2nd 2004"
Sound like to me what the dealer says is what the deal is.
Now granted, you can get $2k back for the 2003 which only exist on the lot
but I'm sure the second I said that I wanted to order a 2003 they'd say DC
isn't taking orders for 03's.
I've heard on teh radio and tv sometimes a commercial will explicitly say
"must take delivery from dealer stock".
I saw my dealer and he said I'd get this or a better rebate. If DC ends up
pulling the rebate, I still have a signed contract for a price.
I guess we'll find out soon enough..
-R
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7lum28a91r41@corp.supernews.com...
> Normally a rebate is for taking a vehicle from dealer's stock. The factory
> goes to a lot of effort deciding what features you want, and they build
----
> loads of vehicles configured that way, whether that is wht way you want or
> not. If yo buy one of the units that the vacoty has configured for you,
they
> give the rebate. If the factory has to crank one out just for you
> specifically, they do not give the rebate.
>
>
>
>
> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> news:3u2Ab.84464$Ek.66026@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > I was all set and ready to ORDER a weirdly configured Wrangler (Anti
Lock
> > Brakes and Dual Top) when one of the dealers told me that if I order it
> and
> > they pull the $1500 rebate before its delivered then I'm SOL.
> >
> > True? If so then has anyone gotten language added to their contract that
> > says "If the rebate increases, I get the better price. If the rebate is
> > taken away then I have the option of getting my $500 deposit back or
> taking
> > the higher price."
> >
> > I was about to go order it tomrrow dammit!!
> >
> >
>
>
"See dealer for qualifications and eligibility."
"Now thru January, 2nd 2004"
Sound like to me what the dealer says is what the deal is.
Now granted, you can get $2k back for the 2003 which only exist on the lot
but I'm sure the second I said that I wanted to order a 2003 they'd say DC
isn't taking orders for 03's.
I've heard on teh radio and tv sometimes a commercial will explicitly say
"must take delivery from dealer stock".
I saw my dealer and he said I'd get this or a better rebate. If DC ends up
pulling the rebate, I still have a signed contract for a price.
I guess we'll find out soon enough..
-R
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7lum28a91r41@corp.supernews.com...
> Normally a rebate is for taking a vehicle from dealer's stock. The factory
> goes to a lot of effort deciding what features you want, and they build
----
> loads of vehicles configured that way, whether that is wht way you want or
> not. If yo buy one of the units that the vacoty has configured for you,
they
> give the rebate. If the factory has to crank one out just for you
> specifically, they do not give the rebate.
>
>
>
>
> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> news:3u2Ab.84464$Ek.66026@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > I was all set and ready to ORDER a weirdly configured Wrangler (Anti
Lock
> > Brakes and Dual Top) when one of the dealers told me that if I order it
> and
> > they pull the $1500 rebate before its delivered then I'm SOL.
> >
> > True? If so then has anyone gotten language added to their contract that
> > says "If the rebate increases, I get the better price. If the rebate is
> > taken away then I have the option of getting my $500 deposit back or
> taking
> > the higher price."
> >
> > I was about to go order it tomrrow dammit!!
> >
> >
>
>
12-08-2003, 08:57 PM
#105
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
from the jeep site when you click the incentives image button:
"See dealer for qualifications and eligibility."
"Now thru January, 2nd 2004"
Sound like to me what the dealer says is what the deal is.
Now granted, you can get $2k back for the 2003 which only exist on the lot
but I'm sure the second I said that I wanted to order a 2003 they'd say DC
isn't taking orders for 03's.
I've heard on teh radio and tv sometimes a commercial will explicitly say
"must take delivery from dealer stock".
I saw my dealer and he said I'd get this or a better rebate. If DC ends up
pulling the rebate, I still have a signed contract for a price.
I guess we'll find out soon enough..
-R
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7lum28a91r41@corp.supernews.com...
> Normally a rebate is for taking a vehicle from dealer's stock. The factory
> goes to a lot of effort deciding what features you want, and they build
----
> loads of vehicles configured that way, whether that is wht way you want or
> not. If yo buy one of the units that the vacoty has configured for you,
they
> give the rebate. If the factory has to crank one out just for you
> specifically, they do not give the rebate.
>
>
>
>
> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> news:3u2Ab.84464$Ek.66026@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > I was all set and ready to ORDER a weirdly configured Wrangler (Anti
Lock
> > Brakes and Dual Top) when one of the dealers told me that if I order it
> and
> > they pull the $1500 rebate before its delivered then I'm SOL.
> >
> > True? If so then has anyone gotten language added to their contract that
> > says "If the rebate increases, I get the better price. If the rebate is
> > taken away then I have the option of getting my $500 deposit back or
> taking
> > the higher price."
> >
> > I was about to go order it tomrrow dammit!!
> >
> >
>
>
"See dealer for qualifications and eligibility."
"Now thru January, 2nd 2004"
Sound like to me what the dealer says is what the deal is.
Now granted, you can get $2k back for the 2003 which only exist on the lot
but I'm sure the second I said that I wanted to order a 2003 they'd say DC
isn't taking orders for 03's.
I've heard on teh radio and tv sometimes a commercial will explicitly say
"must take delivery from dealer stock".
I saw my dealer and he said I'd get this or a better rebate. If DC ends up
pulling the rebate, I still have a signed contract for a price.
I guess we'll find out soon enough..
-R
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7lum28a91r41@corp.supernews.com...
> Normally a rebate is for taking a vehicle from dealer's stock. The factory
> goes to a lot of effort deciding what features you want, and they build
----
> loads of vehicles configured that way, whether that is wht way you want or
> not. If yo buy one of the units that the vacoty has configured for you,
they
> give the rebate. If the factory has to crank one out just for you
> specifically, they do not give the rebate.
>
>
>
>
> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> news:3u2Ab.84464$Ek.66026@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > I was all set and ready to ORDER a weirdly configured Wrangler (Anti
Lock
> > Brakes and Dual Top) when one of the dealers told me that if I order it
> and
> > they pull the $1500 rebate before its delivered then I'm SOL.
> >
> > True? If so then has anyone gotten language added to their contract that
> > says "If the rebate increases, I get the better price. If the rebate is
> > taken away then I have the option of getting my $500 deposit back or
> taking
> > the higher price."
> >
> > I was about to go order it tomrrow dammit!!
> >
> >
>
>
12-08-2003, 08:57 PM
#106
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
from the jeep site when you click the incentives image button:
"See dealer for qualifications and eligibility."
"Now thru January, 2nd 2004"
Sound like to me what the dealer says is what the deal is.
Now granted, you can get $2k back for the 2003 which only exist on the lot
but I'm sure the second I said that I wanted to order a 2003 they'd say DC
isn't taking orders for 03's.
I've heard on teh radio and tv sometimes a commercial will explicitly say
"must take delivery from dealer stock".
I saw my dealer and he said I'd get this or a better rebate. If DC ends up
pulling the rebate, I still have a signed contract for a price.
I guess we'll find out soon enough..
-R
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7lum28a91r41@corp.supernews.com...
> Normally a rebate is for taking a vehicle from dealer's stock. The factory
> goes to a lot of effort deciding what features you want, and they build
----
> loads of vehicles configured that way, whether that is wht way you want or
> not. If yo buy one of the units that the vacoty has configured for you,
they
> give the rebate. If the factory has to crank one out just for you
> specifically, they do not give the rebate.
>
>
>
>
> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> news:3u2Ab.84464$Ek.66026@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > I was all set and ready to ORDER a weirdly configured Wrangler (Anti
Lock
> > Brakes and Dual Top) when one of the dealers told me that if I order it
> and
> > they pull the $1500 rebate before its delivered then I'm SOL.
> >
> > True? If so then has anyone gotten language added to their contract that
> > says "If the rebate increases, I get the better price. If the rebate is
> > taken away then I have the option of getting my $500 deposit back or
> taking
> > the higher price."
> >
> > I was about to go order it tomrrow dammit!!
> >
> >
>
>
"See dealer for qualifications and eligibility."
"Now thru January, 2nd 2004"
Sound like to me what the dealer says is what the deal is.
Now granted, you can get $2k back for the 2003 which only exist on the lot
but I'm sure the second I said that I wanted to order a 2003 they'd say DC
isn't taking orders for 03's.
I've heard on teh radio and tv sometimes a commercial will explicitly say
"must take delivery from dealer stock".
I saw my dealer and he said I'd get this or a better rebate. If DC ends up
pulling the rebate, I still have a signed contract for a price.
I guess we'll find out soon enough..
-R
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7lum28a91r41@corp.supernews.com...
> Normally a rebate is for taking a vehicle from dealer's stock. The factory
> goes to a lot of effort deciding what features you want, and they build
----
> loads of vehicles configured that way, whether that is wht way you want or
> not. If yo buy one of the units that the vacoty has configured for you,
they
> give the rebate. If the factory has to crank one out just for you
> specifically, they do not give the rebate.
>
>
>
>
> "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> news:3u2Ab.84464$Ek.66026@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > I was all set and ready to ORDER a weirdly configured Wrangler (Anti
Lock
> > Brakes and Dual Top) when one of the dealers told me that if I order it
> and
> > they pull the $1500 rebate before its delivered then I'm SOL.
> >
> > True? If so then has anyone gotten language added to their contract that
> > says "If the rebate increases, I get the better price. If the rebate is
> > taken away then I have the option of getting my $500 deposit back or
> taking
> > the higher price."
> >
> > I was about to go order it tomrrow dammit!!
> >
> >
>
>
12-09-2003, 10:30 AM
#107
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
I would think it should be the other way around if you are in the
rear-end capital.
ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
usually no place to steer to.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Valued User wrote:
>
> I'm in houston and I can't find anything with ABS (even used) around here.
> Being rear-end capital of the world, you'd think everything would have ABS.
> Also, almost none of the Jeeps on anyone's lot has a hard/dual top. I guess
> people associate hard tops with keeping out the cold or something. Cold is a
> relative term, however. I'm from New Jersey and have spent a fair amount of
> time in the midwest. -70 wind chill is cold. I'll probably have my soft top
> on most of the time since it never really gets cold enough (for me) to not
> have the windows down.
>
> Trust me - if i found something with ABS and soft top, i'd have driven it
> off someones lot a few days ago.. I even considered looking in dallas (they
> get snow like once every 2 years) thinking I might be able to buy something
> with ABS.
>
> Dealer will honor the rebate and increase it if it increases upon delivery.
>
> ..and "weird" to this NG is a XJ without a dana 44! :-)
>
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7oes3iou5u87@corp.supernews.com...
> > You need to order from dealer stock to get the rebate. If you can find a
> > dual top with ABS on a lot somewhere, then you should be able to get the
> > rebate. Honestly, I don't see that you order is all that wierd, unless
> there
> > are other options that you haven't told us about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> > news:%bdAb.85626$Ek.584@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Exactly. You never know if they have my configuration sitting on a train
> > > waiting till the day after the rebate expires to call me and tell me its
> > > arrived so i can "take delivery" of it.
> > >
> > > I know I know theres a certain amount of trust involved but the dealer
> is
> > in
> > > business to make money.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > > news:20031205131634547-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > > On 05 Dec 2003 12:10 PM, mabar posted the following:
> > > > > Del:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rebate applies to vehicles at the time of delivery only, so the
> > > > > rebate may or may not be available at the time an ordered vehicle
> > > > > arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I guess if the original poster is happy doing business that way, but I
> > > > wouldn't agree to those terms.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
rear-end capital.
ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
usually no place to steer to.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Valued User wrote:
>
> I'm in houston and I can't find anything with ABS (even used) around here.
> Being rear-end capital of the world, you'd think everything would have ABS.
> Also, almost none of the Jeeps on anyone's lot has a hard/dual top. I guess
> people associate hard tops with keeping out the cold or something. Cold is a
> relative term, however. I'm from New Jersey and have spent a fair amount of
> time in the midwest. -70 wind chill is cold. I'll probably have my soft top
> on most of the time since it never really gets cold enough (for me) to not
> have the windows down.
>
> Trust me - if i found something with ABS and soft top, i'd have driven it
> off someones lot a few days ago.. I even considered looking in dallas (they
> get snow like once every 2 years) thinking I might be able to buy something
> with ABS.
>
> Dealer will honor the rebate and increase it if it increases upon delivery.
>
> ..and "weird" to this NG is a XJ without a dana 44! :-)
>
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7oes3iou5u87@corp.supernews.com...
> > You need to order from dealer stock to get the rebate. If you can find a
> > dual top with ABS on a lot somewhere, then you should be able to get the
> > rebate. Honestly, I don't see that you order is all that wierd, unless
> there
> > are other options that you haven't told us about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> > news:%bdAb.85626$Ek.584@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Exactly. You never know if they have my configuration sitting on a train
> > > waiting till the day after the rebate expires to call me and tell me its
> > > arrived so i can "take delivery" of it.
> > >
> > > I know I know theres a certain amount of trust involved but the dealer
> is
> > in
> > > business to make money.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > > news:20031205131634547-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > > On 05 Dec 2003 12:10 PM, mabar posted the following:
> > > > > Del:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rebate applies to vehicles at the time of delivery only, so the
> > > > > rebate may or may not be available at the time an ordered vehicle
> > > > > arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I guess if the original poster is happy doing business that way, but I
> > > > wouldn't agree to those terms.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-09-2003, 10:30 AM
#108
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
I would think it should be the other way around if you are in the
rear-end capital.
ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
usually no place to steer to.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Valued User wrote:
>
> I'm in houston and I can't find anything with ABS (even used) around here.
> Being rear-end capital of the world, you'd think everything would have ABS.
> Also, almost none of the Jeeps on anyone's lot has a hard/dual top. I guess
> people associate hard tops with keeping out the cold or something. Cold is a
> relative term, however. I'm from New Jersey and have spent a fair amount of
> time in the midwest. -70 wind chill is cold. I'll probably have my soft top
> on most of the time since it never really gets cold enough (for me) to not
> have the windows down.
>
> Trust me - if i found something with ABS and soft top, i'd have driven it
> off someones lot a few days ago.. I even considered looking in dallas (they
> get snow like once every 2 years) thinking I might be able to buy something
> with ABS.
>
> Dealer will honor the rebate and increase it if it increases upon delivery.
>
> ..and "weird" to this NG is a XJ without a dana 44! :-)
>
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7oes3iou5u87@corp.supernews.com...
> > You need to order from dealer stock to get the rebate. If you can find a
> > dual top with ABS on a lot somewhere, then you should be able to get the
> > rebate. Honestly, I don't see that you order is all that wierd, unless
> there
> > are other options that you haven't told us about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> > news:%bdAb.85626$Ek.584@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Exactly. You never know if they have my configuration sitting on a train
> > > waiting till the day after the rebate expires to call me and tell me its
> > > arrived so i can "take delivery" of it.
> > >
> > > I know I know theres a certain amount of trust involved but the dealer
> is
> > in
> > > business to make money.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > > news:20031205131634547-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > > On 05 Dec 2003 12:10 PM, mabar posted the following:
> > > > > Del:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rebate applies to vehicles at the time of delivery only, so the
> > > > > rebate may or may not be available at the time an ordered vehicle
> > > > > arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I guess if the original poster is happy doing business that way, but I
> > > > wouldn't agree to those terms.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
rear-end capital.
ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
usually no place to steer to.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Valued User wrote:
>
> I'm in houston and I can't find anything with ABS (even used) around here.
> Being rear-end capital of the world, you'd think everything would have ABS.
> Also, almost none of the Jeeps on anyone's lot has a hard/dual top. I guess
> people associate hard tops with keeping out the cold or something. Cold is a
> relative term, however. I'm from New Jersey and have spent a fair amount of
> time in the midwest. -70 wind chill is cold. I'll probably have my soft top
> on most of the time since it never really gets cold enough (for me) to not
> have the windows down.
>
> Trust me - if i found something with ABS and soft top, i'd have driven it
> off someones lot a few days ago.. I even considered looking in dallas (they
> get snow like once every 2 years) thinking I might be able to buy something
> with ABS.
>
> Dealer will honor the rebate and increase it if it increases upon delivery.
>
> ..and "weird" to this NG is a XJ without a dana 44! :-)
>
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7oes3iou5u87@corp.supernews.com...
> > You need to order from dealer stock to get the rebate. If you can find a
> > dual top with ABS on a lot somewhere, then you should be able to get the
> > rebate. Honestly, I don't see that you order is all that wierd, unless
> there
> > are other options that you haven't told us about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> > news:%bdAb.85626$Ek.584@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Exactly. You never know if they have my configuration sitting on a train
> > > waiting till the day after the rebate expires to call me and tell me its
> > > arrived so i can "take delivery" of it.
> > >
> > > I know I know theres a certain amount of trust involved but the dealer
> is
> > in
> > > business to make money.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > > news:20031205131634547-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > > On 05 Dec 2003 12:10 PM, mabar posted the following:
> > > > > Del:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rebate applies to vehicles at the time of delivery only, so the
> > > > > rebate may or may not be available at the time an ordered vehicle
> > > > > arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I guess if the original poster is happy doing business that way, but I
> > > > wouldn't agree to those terms.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-09-2003, 10:30 AM
#109
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
I would think it should be the other way around if you are in the
rear-end capital.
ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
usually no place to steer to.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Valued User wrote:
>
> I'm in houston and I can't find anything with ABS (even used) around here.
> Being rear-end capital of the world, you'd think everything would have ABS.
> Also, almost none of the Jeeps on anyone's lot has a hard/dual top. I guess
> people associate hard tops with keeping out the cold or something. Cold is a
> relative term, however. I'm from New Jersey and have spent a fair amount of
> time in the midwest. -70 wind chill is cold. I'll probably have my soft top
> on most of the time since it never really gets cold enough (for me) to not
> have the windows down.
>
> Trust me - if i found something with ABS and soft top, i'd have driven it
> off someones lot a few days ago.. I even considered looking in dallas (they
> get snow like once every 2 years) thinking I might be able to buy something
> with ABS.
>
> Dealer will honor the rebate and increase it if it increases upon delivery.
>
> ..and "weird" to this NG is a XJ without a dana 44! :-)
>
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7oes3iou5u87@corp.supernews.com...
> > You need to order from dealer stock to get the rebate. If you can find a
> > dual top with ABS on a lot somewhere, then you should be able to get the
> > rebate. Honestly, I don't see that you order is all that wierd, unless
> there
> > are other options that you haven't told us about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> > news:%bdAb.85626$Ek.584@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Exactly. You never know if they have my configuration sitting on a train
> > > waiting till the day after the rebate expires to call me and tell me its
> > > arrived so i can "take delivery" of it.
> > >
> > > I know I know theres a certain amount of trust involved but the dealer
> is
> > in
> > > business to make money.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > > news:20031205131634547-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > > On 05 Dec 2003 12:10 PM, mabar posted the following:
> > > > > Del:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rebate applies to vehicles at the time of delivery only, so the
> > > > > rebate may or may not be available at the time an ordered vehicle
> > > > > arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I guess if the original poster is happy doing business that way, but I
> > > > wouldn't agree to those terms.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
rear-end capital.
ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
usually no place to steer to.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Valued User wrote:
>
> I'm in houston and I can't find anything with ABS (even used) around here.
> Being rear-end capital of the world, you'd think everything would have ABS.
> Also, almost none of the Jeeps on anyone's lot has a hard/dual top. I guess
> people associate hard tops with keeping out the cold or something. Cold is a
> relative term, however. I'm from New Jersey and have spent a fair amount of
> time in the midwest. -70 wind chill is cold. I'll probably have my soft top
> on most of the time since it never really gets cold enough (for me) to not
> have the windows down.
>
> Trust me - if i found something with ABS and soft top, i'd have driven it
> off someones lot a few days ago.. I even considered looking in dallas (they
> get snow like once every 2 years) thinking I might be able to buy something
> with ABS.
>
> Dealer will honor the rebate and increase it if it increases upon delivery.
>
> ..and "weird" to this NG is a XJ without a dana 44! :-)
>
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7oes3iou5u87@corp.supernews.com...
> > You need to order from dealer stock to get the rebate. If you can find a
> > dual top with ABS on a lot somewhere, then you should be able to get the
> > rebate. Honestly, I don't see that you order is all that wierd, unless
> there
> > are other options that you haven't told us about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valued User" <valued@user.com> wrote in message
> > news:%bdAb.85626$Ek.584@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Exactly. You never know if they have my configuration sitting on a train
> > > waiting till the day after the rebate expires to call me and tell me its
> > > arrived so i can "take delivery" of it.
> > >
> > > I know I know theres a certain amount of trust involved but the dealer
> is
> > in
> > > business to make money.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> > > news:20031205131634547-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > > > On 05 Dec 2003 12:10 PM, mabar posted the following:
> > > > > Del:
> > > > >
> > > > > The rebate applies to vehicles at the time of delivery only, so the
> > > > > rebate may or may not be available at the time an ordered vehicle
> > > > > arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I guess if the original poster is happy doing business that way, but I
> > > > wouldn't agree to those terms.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > > > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > > > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > > > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-09-2003, 01:54 PM
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Re: Order Jeep -> Lose Rebate??
Statistics from our Department of Transportation: All types of
run-off-road crashes - rollovers, side impacts with fixed objects and
frontal impacts with fixed objects - increased significantly with ABS.
Nonfatal run-off-road crashes increased by an estimated 19 percent, and
fatal crashes by 28 percent.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...te/808206.html
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I would think it should be the other way around if you are in the
> rear-end capital.
>
> ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
> stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
> usually no place to steer to.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
run-off-road crashes - rollovers, side impacts with fixed objects and
frontal impacts with fixed objects - increased significantly with ABS.
Nonfatal run-off-road crashes increased by an estimated 19 percent, and
fatal crashes by 28 percent.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...te/808206.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I would think it should be the other way around if you are in the
> rear-end capital.
>
> ABS actually lengthens the stopping distance quite a bit. It sacrifices
> stopping time to give steering control. Problem is in traffic there is
> usually no place to steer to.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
