Opinions on YJ Suspensions
#61
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Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Ditto, plus Bill's Real Jeep came stock with eleven leaf springs
per side that dampening the rollover action by friction. Like an old
friction shock absorber where the drive could adjust it's strength by
tightening a center bolt:
http://www.----------.com/frictionShockAbsorber.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
per side that dampening the rollover action by friction. Like an old
friction shock absorber where the drive could adjust it's strength by
tightening a center bolt:
http://www.----------.com/frictionShockAbsorber.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#62
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Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
#63
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Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
#64
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Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
#65
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Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave mine
out.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
> Not Bill, but....
>
> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>
> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
> out in front of you.
>
> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
> major safety feature disabled.
>
> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>
> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
> it was.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>> both
>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>> were
>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>> out
>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>> imagine
>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>> in,
>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me up
>> >> 6",
>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
#66
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Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Or you could get/make a set of quick disconnects.
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
#67
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Posts: n/a
Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Or you could get/make a set of quick disconnects.
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Or you could get/make a set of quick disconnects.
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
#69
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Posts: n/a
Re: Opinions on YJ Suspensions
Or you could get/make a set of quick disconnects.
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%dvAe.1933883$Xk.1554740@pd7tw3no...
> Thanks, will tell daughter to get her's back in, mine is only off road
> with the exception of the 10 minutes to get to off road, so I'll leave
> mine out.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42D12EC9.246A67EC@sympatico.ca...
>> Not Bill, but....
>>
>> They tie the two front or rear wheels together to the frame from side to
>> side to prevent body lean in a corner. And roll overs.....
>>
>> Basically when the right wheel goes down. it can only go so far before
>> it starts pulling the left wheel on the same axle down with the frame
>> cross member as the anchor or pivot point. It starts pulling the frame
>> down too. This makes a radical difference in the corner handling and
>> the speed you can make a zig zag like to avoid hitting a kid that jumps
>> out in front of you.
>>
>> If the kid jumps out and you do hit or kill him and the cops inspect the
>> rig and find no anti sway bar, you 'will' (up here in Canada at least)
>> be charged with vehicular homicide by knowingly driving a vehicle with a
>> major safety feature disabled.
>>
>> Even in a fender bender, you will automatically be found at fault. Been
>> there, the other person could have (almost) died, had my rig inspected
>> by the cops and my insurance company and they (both) told me they were
>> looking for exactly things like that and mis matched tires on a 4x4. My
>> unit was safe so the other person was found at fault for hitting me.
>>
>> Bill's 'real' Jeep was made before we knew about how easy Jeeps roll
>> over with a bunch of football players in it, according to Nader I think
>> it was.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bill, maybe you can tell me, what exactly are the sway bars for,
>>> both
>>> my daughter's 95 YJ and my 81 CJ haven't had them in for a year now, we
>>> were
>>> disconncting them for trail rides before but that was a pain in ***, so
>>> out
>>> they came, and neither one of us can tell that they did anything. I
>>> imagine
>>> if pulled over and checked we would be fined and have to put them back
>>> in,
>>> but I realy don't know what they are for.
>>>
>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42D040D4.ABB07F6F@***.net...
>>> > Flex is only limited by the shock absorber travel. And sway bar
>>> > strength, which Real Jeeps don't have to begin with.
>>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> my spring under flexes that well, and the 4.5" lift actually put me
>>> >> up
>>> >> 6",
>>> >> with no axle wrap issues....;)
>>> >> nice jeep by the way.......
>
>
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