gbray

Your 225 engine is basically a 3.8L Buick v-6. I had one in a 71 Cj5.
Excellant little power-house. My advise is to replace the timing cover
and oil pump as an assembly-the aluminum in the housing wears and it may
not be visble to the untrained eye. Prime the oil pump-either go with
the rebuild kit or my sugesstion of a timing cover assembly, but pack
the gears heavily with petroleum jelly (Vaseline). Oil enters the
rocker shaft assembly in the support stand for the rocker shaft, not
through a bolt, but rather around it. If you have the valve covers off,
you should remove the shaft assemblies and get them hot-tanked. Oh yea,
you did do a manual oil pressure test before all this work? The Buick
3.8L engine was produced from the 225 casting dies...the weakest link in
all the Buick 3.8L engines was the oiling system ( i'm speaking of the
odd-fire early production Buick v-6's).

ps: if you can find one, the early to mid seventies odd-fire Buick 3.8L
engines had a Delco HEI ignition setup that will work on your 225. greg

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Where does it head for on the block:
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...s/Stg1-09F.jpg
? Anyway we're back to the gasket got to be up side down.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

kmurphy wrote:
>
> After pulling the rockers off I see a hole in the front tower so I
> took a peace of weed eater line 24" and pushed it in, it hit some
> sludge and broke lose. still no oil.I think that if I fill the pen
> with C4 it will fix it ;)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Where does it head for on the block:
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...s/Stg1-09F.jpg
? Anyway we're back to the gasket got to be up side down.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

kmurphy wrote:
>
> After pulling the rockers off I see a hole in the front tower so I
> took a peace of weed eater line 24" and pushed it in, it hit some
> sludge and broke lose. still no oil.I think that if I fill the pen
> with C4 it will fix it ;)

Mike Romain

The part I was talking about is this puppy:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987

(anyone can view this shot)

I have no idea where the oil channel on the gas pump lobe actually goes,
just that it has to be at the front of the engine, not turned into the
engine.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Mike, look at the picture, notice the pressure sending unit, the open
> hold that lead to the pump, the bulge in the casting surrounding the cam
> insert that connects the driver's side lifter galley, which have new
> plugs:
> http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...s/front411.JPG
> The concentric is outside everything:
> http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/imag...s/IMAGE006.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, it's not an insert, it is the fuel pump lobe on the cam that has a
> > main oil channel and needs to be in right.
> >
> > I am not sure if that is what passes the oil up or where it passes it
> > though...
> >
> > The book does say the pump must be primed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Murphy,
> > > I don't believe the cam bearing insert could block the oil galley,
> > > we can see it is machine well out side it's surface:
> > > http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...s/front411.JPG
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > kmurphy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If the bearing is blocking the oil from the head is there anyway to
> > > > check it out befor I have to teardown the front end???

Mike Romain

The part I was talking about is this puppy:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987

(anyone can view this shot)

I have no idea where the oil channel on the gas pump lobe actually goes,
just that it has to be at the front of the engine, not turned into the
engine.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Mike, look at the picture, notice the pressure sending unit, the open
> hold that lead to the pump, the bulge in the casting surrounding the cam
> insert that connects the driver's side lifter galley, which have new
> plugs:
> http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...s/front411.JPG
> The concentric is outside everything:
> http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/imag...s/IMAGE006.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, it's not an insert, it is the fuel pump lobe on the cam that has a
> > main oil channel and needs to be in right.
> >
> > I am not sure if that is what passes the oil up or where it passes it
> > though...
> >
> > The book does say the pump must be primed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Murphy,
> > > I don't believe the cam bearing insert could block the oil galley,
> > > we can see it is machine well out side it's surface:
> > > http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...s/front411.JPG
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > kmurphy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If the bearing is blocking the oil from the head is there anyway to
> > > > check it out befor I have to teardown the front end???

Lee Ayrton

Dragging an old thread forward. You never know when someone might need a
quick fix -- after putting the engine back in and bolting everything down.

The site appears to be a trouble-shooting guide for oil-change shops.

3. Oil Pump Prime
<URL:http://www.hastingsfilter.com/engineering/tsb_93-1.html>

[begin]----------------------
If the above procedure fails, it may be necessary to remove the filter
and use an oil squirt can, with clean motor oil, to squirt oil into
the oil filter's mounting base inlet hole, which is adjacent to the
threaded mounting stud. This will prime the pump.

Next, fill the filter with oil, reinstall and tighten. Oil pressure
should return to normal within ten seconds after starting the engine.
[end]------------------------

Lee Ayrton

Dragging an old thread forward. You never know when someone might need a
quick fix -- after putting the engine back in and bolting everything down.

The site appears to be a trouble-shooting guide for oil-change shops.

3. Oil Pump Prime
<URL:http://www.hastingsfilter.com/engineering/tsb_93-1.html>

[begin]----------------------
If the above procedure fails, it may be necessary to remove the filter
and use an oil squirt can, with clean motor oil, to squirt oil into
the oil filter's mounting base inlet hole, which is adjacent to the
threaded mounting stud. This will prime the pump.

Next, fill the filter with oil, reinstall and tighten. Oil pressure
should return to normal within ten seconds after starting the engine.
[end]------------------------

Lee Ayrton

Dragging an old thread forward. You never know when someone might need a
quick fix -- after putting the engine back in and bolting everything down.

The site appears to be a trouble-shooting guide for oil-change shops.

3. Oil Pump Prime
<URL:http://www.hastingsfilter.com/engineering/tsb_93-1.html>

[begin]----------------------
If the above procedure fails, it may be necessary to remove the filter
and use an oil squirt can, with clean motor oil, to squirt oil into
the oil filter's mounting base inlet hole, which is adjacent to the
threaded mounting stud. This will prime the pump.

Next, fill the filter with oil, reinstall and tighten. Oil pressure
should return to normal within ten seconds after starting the engine.
[end]------------------------