Oil Pump HELP!!!
#21
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Hi Mike,
The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
distributor and use a drill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
distributor and use a drill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#22
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
It had to be primed.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> distributor and use a drill.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
It had to be primed.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> distributor and use a drill.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#23
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
It had to be primed.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> distributor and use a drill.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
It had to be primed.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> distributor and use a drill.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#24
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Over the years I've seen some real jewels as people tried to get a
prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
the filter before he put it on as well.
Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
>
> It had to be primed.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > distributor and use a drill.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
the filter before he put it on as well.
Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
>
> It had to be primed.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > distributor and use a drill.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#25
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Over the years I've seen some real jewels as people tried to get a
prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
the filter before he put it on as well.
Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
>
> It had to be primed.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > distributor and use a drill.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
the filter before he put it on as well.
Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
>
> It had to be primed.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > distributor and use a drill.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#26
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
I fill the filter on an oil change, it's that much less air that's
pumped through the system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
will@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> Over the years I've seen some real jewels as people tried to get a
> prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
> one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
> pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
> it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
> who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
> it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
> the filter before he put it on as well.
>
> Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
>
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
> >
> > It had to be primed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > > distributor and use a drill.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
pumped through the system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
will@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> Over the years I've seen some real jewels as people tried to get a
> prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
> one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
> pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
> it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
> who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
> it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
> the filter before he put it on as well.
>
> Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
>
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
> >
> > It had to be primed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > > distributor and use a drill.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#27
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
I fill the filter on an oil change, it's that much less air that's
pumped through the system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
will@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> Over the years I've seen some real jewels as people tried to get a
> prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
> one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
> pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
> it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
> who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
> it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
> the filter before he put it on as well.
>
> Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
>
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
> >
> > It had to be primed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > > distributor and use a drill.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
pumped through the system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
will@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> Over the years I've seen some real jewels as people tried to get a
> prime w/o pulling things apart - a couple even worked. The wildest
> one I saw was the guy who plugged up all the holes on the engine and
> pressurized it to force oil into the pickup tube (worked, but I think
> it leaked from every seal after that). The most practical was the guy
> who routinely ran a small tube into the filter supply hole and pumped
> it full before he put the filter on. AIR, this same guy always filled
> the filter before he put it on as well.
>
> Helluva lot easier to remember to do it in the first place <g>.
>
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:23:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > I tried the drill job on Jo's engine after she rebuilt it and no go.
> >
> > It had to be primed.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > The pump is external and driven off the distributor, which is
> > > driven off a gear at the forward most cam:
> > > http://www.apple.queensu.ca/cj3b/Pho.../Dauntless.gif The
> > > distributor gear looks like any other GM, so you just pull the
> > > distributor and use a drill.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your pump is hooked to the timing chain isn't it? I don't know of any
> > > > way to prime that short of removing the timing cover and packing it with
> > > > Vaseline like my Haynes manual says.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#28
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
the pump is pumping oil but not to the heads,not a drop!! I think it
might be the cam bearing on the front. after looking at a book with
drawing it seems that the first bearing has a notch in the front to
let oil up to the head on the driver side don't know about the other
side.this cammando has only been driven 2 miles at a time by an eldery
man that gave it to me. he said that after he had the cam work done in
93'he parked it just to start it up every so often. can the bearings
be put in wrong??? would that cause this trouble??
might be the cam bearing on the front. after looking at a book with
drawing it seems that the first bearing has a notch in the front to
let oil up to the head on the driver side don't know about the other
side.this cammando has only been driven 2 miles at a time by an eldery
man that gave it to me. he said that after he had the cam work done in
93'he parked it just to start it up every so often. can the bearings
be put in wrong??? would that cause this trouble??
#29
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
the pump is pumping oil but not to the heads,not a drop!! I think it
might be the cam bearing on the front. after looking at a book with
drawing it seems that the first bearing has a notch in the front to
let oil up to the head on the driver side don't know about the other
side.this cammando has only been driven 2 miles at a time by an eldery
man that gave it to me. he said that after he had the cam work done in
93'he parked it just to start it up every so often. can the bearings
be put in wrong??? would that cause this trouble??
might be the cam bearing on the front. after looking at a book with
drawing it seems that the first bearing has a notch in the front to
let oil up to the head on the driver side don't know about the other
side.this cammando has only been driven 2 miles at a time by an eldery
man that gave it to me. he said that after he had the cam work done in
93'he parked it just to start it up every so often. can the bearings
be put in wrong??? would that cause this trouble??
#30
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
It's got to be the head gasket was put in up side down, blocking
the oil galley. When you replace them pay attention to how it's marked,
usually stamped top or front.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
kmurphy wrote:
>
> the pump is pumping oil but not to the heads,not a drop!! I think it
> might be the cam bearing on the front. after looking at a book with
> drawing it seems that the first bearing has a notch in the front to
> let oil up to the head on the driver side don't know about the other
> side.this cammando has only been driven 2 miles at a time by an eldery
> man that gave it to me. he said that after he had the cam work done in
> 93'he parked it just to start it up every so often. can the bearings
> be put in wrong??? would that cause this trouble??
the oil galley. When you replace them pay attention to how it's marked,
usually stamped top or front.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
kmurphy wrote:
>
> the pump is pumping oil but not to the heads,not a drop!! I think it
> might be the cam bearing on the front. after looking at a book with
> drawing it seems that the first bearing has a notch in the front to
> let oil up to the head on the driver side don't know about the other
> side.this cammando has only been driven 2 miles at a time by an eldery
> man that gave it to me. he said that after he had the cam work done in
> 93'he parked it just to start it up every so often. can the bearings
> be put in wrong??? would that cause this trouble??