Oil Pump HELP!!!
09-18-2003, 07:39 PM
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Oil Pump HELP!!!
I was given a 68'Jeepster Commando with a 225 V6, and found out that
it has no oil to the heads.I've pulled the pan,the pickup unit looks
fine.I've pulled the filter houseing and the gears in the pump look
fine (no sluge), but I got a rebuild kit anyway now how do I prime the
pump or does it need to be primed?? then when the oil reaches the
head were does it exit from the push rods are solid. I was told that
the oil comes out of one of the rocker bolts whitch ones??? As you
can see I'm not a motor head yet but I'm making this my first project
Jeep. Thanks for taking the time to read this hope you can help:(
it has no oil to the heads.I've pulled the pan,the pickup unit looks
fine.I've pulled the filter houseing and the gears in the pump look
fine (no sluge), but I got a rebuild kit anyway now how do I prime the
pump or does it need to be primed?? then when the oil reaches the
head were does it exit from the push rods are solid. I was told that
the oil comes out of one of the rocker bolts whitch ones??? As you
can see I'm not a motor head yet but I'm making this my first project
Jeep. Thanks for taking the time to read this hope you can help:(
09-19-2003, 01:51 AM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Stick an old screwdriver bit on a drill and put it down the
> distributor hole. It's just been sitting for a long time, right, no
> change someone put the head gaskets in upside down, right? My diagram
> shows the oil enters the rocker shaft at the front pillar, and more than
> likely the opposite on the other side. The oil will exit the at each
> rocker through a pin holes pointed at the push rod and valve stem, while
> leaking through the bearing surface, and returning to the pan via drain
> holes at the lowest rear corners. Remember Murphy's law.
And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:
> kmurphy wrote:
>>
>> I was given a 68'Jeepster Commando with a 225 V6, and found out that
>> it has no oil to the heads.I've pulled the pan,the pickup unit looks
>> fine.I've pulled the filter houseing and the gears in the pump look
>> fine (no sluge), but I got a rebuild kit anyway now how do I prime the
>> pump or does it need to be primed?? then when the oil reaches the
>> head were does it exit from the push rods are solid. I was told that
>> the oil comes out of one of the rocker bolts whitch ones??? As you
>> can see I'm not a motor head yet but I'm making this my first project
>> Jeep. Thanks for taking the time to read this hope you can help:(
> Stick an old screwdriver bit on a drill and put it down the
> distributor hole. It's just been sitting for a long time, right, no
> change someone put the head gaskets in upside down, right? My diagram
> shows the oil enters the rocker shaft at the front pillar, and more than
> likely the opposite on the other side. The oil will exit the at each
> rocker through a pin holes pointed at the push rod and valve stem, while
> leaking through the bearing surface, and returning to the pan via drain
> holes at the lowest rear corners. Remember Murphy's law.
And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:
> kmurphy wrote:
>>
>> I was given a 68'Jeepster Commando with a 225 V6, and found out that
>> it has no oil to the heads.I've pulled the pan,the pickup unit looks
>> fine.I've pulled the filter houseing and the gears in the pump look
>> fine (no sluge), but I got a rebuild kit anyway now how do I prime the
>> pump or does it need to be primed?? then when the oil reaches the
>> head were does it exit from the push rods are solid. I was told that
>> the oil comes out of one of the rocker bolts whitch ones??? As you
>> can see I'm not a motor head yet but I'm making this my first project
>> Jeep. Thanks for taking the time to read this hope you can help:(
09-19-2003, 01:51 AM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Stick an old screwdriver bit on a drill and put it down the
> distributor hole. It's just been sitting for a long time, right, no
> change someone put the head gaskets in upside down, right? My diagram
> shows the oil enters the rocker shaft at the front pillar, and more than
> likely the opposite on the other side. The oil will exit the at each
> rocker through a pin holes pointed at the push rod and valve stem, while
> leaking through the bearing surface, and returning to the pan via drain
> holes at the lowest rear corners. Remember Murphy's law.
And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:
> kmurphy wrote:
>>
>> I was given a 68'Jeepster Commando with a 225 V6, and found out that
>> it has no oil to the heads.I've pulled the pan,the pickup unit looks
>> fine.I've pulled the filter houseing and the gears in the pump look
>> fine (no sluge), but I got a rebuild kit anyway now how do I prime the
>> pump or does it need to be primed?? then when the oil reaches the
>> head were does it exit from the push rods are solid. I was told that
>> the oil comes out of one of the rocker bolts whitch ones??? As you
>> can see I'm not a motor head yet but I'm making this my first project
>> Jeep. Thanks for taking the time to read this hope you can help:(
> Stick an old screwdriver bit on a drill and put it down the
> distributor hole. It's just been sitting for a long time, right, no
> change someone put the head gaskets in upside down, right? My diagram
> shows the oil enters the rocker shaft at the front pillar, and more than
> likely the opposite on the other side. The oil will exit the at each
> rocker through a pin holes pointed at the push rod and valve stem, while
> leaking through the bearing surface, and returning to the pan via drain
> holes at the lowest rear corners. Remember Murphy's law.
And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:
> kmurphy wrote:
>>
>> I was given a 68'Jeepster Commando with a 225 V6, and found out that
>> it has no oil to the heads.I've pulled the pan,the pickup unit looks
>> fine.I've pulled the filter houseing and the gears in the pump look
>> fine (no sluge), but I got a rebuild kit anyway now how do I prime the
>> pump or does it need to be primed?? then when the oil reaches the
>> head were does it exit from the push rods are solid. I was told that
>> the oil comes out of one of the rocker bolts whitch ones??? As you
>> can see I'm not a motor head yet but I'm making this my first project
>> Jeep. Thanks for taking the time to read this hope you can help:(
09-19-2003, 11:47 AM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
On or about Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Mike Romain of romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
> You are supposed to fill the pump with vaseline to prime it. My book
> says not to use grease, just petroleum jelly.
Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
to the starter?
I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
> You are supposed to fill the pump with vaseline to prime it. My book
> says not to use grease, just petroleum jelly.
Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
to the starter?
I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
09-19-2003, 11:47 AM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
On or about Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Mike Romain of romainm@sympatico.ca wrote:
> You are supposed to fill the pump with vaseline to prime it. My book
> says not to use grease, just petroleum jelly.
Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
to the starter?
I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
> You are supposed to fill the pump with vaseline to prime it. My book
> says not to use grease, just petroleum jelly.
Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
to the starter?
I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
09-19-2003, 12:10 PM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Yup, out in plain view, so Murphy, didn't have to put the pan as he
did to check for sluge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> My book says that is a timing chain pump Bill.
>
> Pack it with Vaseline.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
did to check for sluge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> My book says that is a timing chain pump Bill.
>
> Pack it with Vaseline.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-19-2003, 12:10 PM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Yup, out in plain view, so Murphy, didn't have to put the pan as he
did to check for sluge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> My book says that is a timing chain pump Bill.
>
> Pack it with Vaseline.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
did to check for sluge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> My book says that is a timing chain pump Bill.
>
> Pack it with Vaseline.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-19-2003, 12:56 PM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Then you've learned something, as all shade tree mechanic have
learned after one engine rebuild, to drench all parts with oil or proper
lubricate on assembly. Try spinning it without spark plugs and watch for
oil pressure, before you chance firing it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
> 258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
> to the starter?
>
> I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
learned after one engine rebuild, to drench all parts with oil or proper
lubricate on assembly. Try spinning it without spark plugs and watch for
oil pressure, before you chance firing it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
> 258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
> to the starter?
>
> I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
09-19-2003, 12:56 PM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Then you've learned something, as all shade tree mechanic have
learned after one engine rebuild, to drench all parts with oil or proper
lubricate on assembly. Try spinning it without spark plugs and watch for
oil pressure, before you chance firing it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
> 258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
> to the starter?
>
> I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
learned after one engine rebuild, to drench all parts with oil or proper
lubricate on assembly. Try spinning it without spark plugs and watch for
oil pressure, before you chance firing it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Oops. My Chiltons didn't say that, or anything else about priming my
> 258's oil pump. Am I going to have problems when I finally apply voltage
> to the starter?
>
> I'm guessing that I can't just pour oil down the distributor hole, can I?
09-19-2003, 03:13 PM
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Re: Oil Pump HELP!!!
Approximately 9/18/03 22:51, DougW uttered for posterity:
> And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
> before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:
Doesn't help. If you mark it, the first time you blink,
Murphy's ghost moves the mark anyway. Just give up and
realize that no matter how careful you are, and no matter
in what position you install it, the first one *will* be
wrong and you'll bust a knuckle fixing it.
> And also remember to mark the distributor position and rotor position
> before pulling it. :) Goes to Murphy's Law. (:
Doesn't help. If you mark it, the first time you blink,
Murphy's ghost moves the mark anyway. Just give up and
realize that no matter how careful you are, and no matter
in what position you install it, the first one *will* be
wrong and you'll bust a knuckle fixing it.