Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Normal?!!
> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
>
> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
>
> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
>
> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
>
> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
> even the sides.

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and Bill
you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
the 60s..

Doug, I don't question your knowledge of electronics diagnosis because I
accept your expertise in that specific field but had you read my entire post
rather than just the first line you would have noticed I mentioned the two
most possible mechanical problems and a low tech approach to each.

Had the OP a clogged CCV hose I assume he might have mentioned that his
airbox was full oil.

As far as a cloud of smoke I drove a Dodge that used quart every 1500 miles
for almost 100k and it never left a cloud behind or fouled the plugs
(although I used Bosch Platinums the whole time) I just added a quart at
1500 miles and changed it at 3000.

I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for $500
to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45308781.367A66CB@cox.net...
> Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
> miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
> having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> Normal?!!
>> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
>> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
>>
>> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
>>
>> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
>> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
>>
>> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
>> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
>>
>> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
>> even the sides.

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and Bill
you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
the 60s..

Doug, I don't question your knowledge of electronics diagnosis because I
accept your expertise in that specific field but had you read my entire post
rather than just the first line you would have noticed I mentioned the two
most possible mechanical problems and a low tech approach to each.

Had the OP a clogged CCV hose I assume he might have mentioned that his
airbox was full oil.

As far as a cloud of smoke I drove a Dodge that used quart every 1500 miles
for almost 100k and it never left a cloud behind or fouled the plugs
(although I used Bosch Platinums the whole time) I just added a quart at
1500 miles and changed it at 3000.

I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for $500
to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45308781.367A66CB@cox.net...
> Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
> miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
> having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> Normal?!!
>> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
>> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
>>
>> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
>>
>> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
>> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
>>
>> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
>> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
>>
>> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
>> even the sides.

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and Bill
you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
the 60s..

Doug, I don't question your knowledge of electronics diagnosis because I
accept your expertise in that specific field but had you read my entire post
rather than just the first line you would have noticed I mentioned the two
most possible mechanical problems and a low tech approach to each.

Had the OP a clogged CCV hose I assume he might have mentioned that his
airbox was full oil.

As far as a cloud of smoke I drove a Dodge that used quart every 1500 miles
for almost 100k and it never left a cloud behind or fouled the plugs
(although I used Bosch Platinums the whole time) I just added a quart at
1500 miles and changed it at 3000.

I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for $500
to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45308781.367A66CB@cox.net...
> Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
> miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
> having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> Normal?!!
>> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
>> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
>>
>> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
>>
>> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
>> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
>>
>> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
>> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
>>
>> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
>> even the sides.

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I used to have an engine in my Suburban that burned a quart every three
hundred miles. Aside from a few puffs at startup, there was little visible
smoke. I did have to install four one inch aftermarket breathers, to get
all the blowby out of the engine compartment. Motor oil is, after all, a
flammable substance, and it can burn just as well on the outside of your
engine as in the cylinders.

Wrt Billy's comment, "That being said I would be surprised at that amount of
wear in an engine where synthetic had been used since new, or seals damaged
under those conditions." I see you have bought into the snake oil claims.
Synthetic, if you believe all the propaganda, is more resistant to breakdown
and less likely to form gel and sludge when maintenance intervals are
abused. Those are its only benefits, really. It does not lubricate any
better than the correct API/SAE grade of dino oil when new, and does not
allow more or less wear than dino oil, as long as proper change intervals
are maintained.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9e846$4530e62e$422afc51$8490@FUSE.NET...
> I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and
Bill
> you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
> the 60s..
>
> Doug, I don't question your knowledge of electronics diagnosis because I
> accept your expertise in that specific field but had you read my entire
post
> rather than just the first line you would have noticed I mentioned the two
> most possible mechanical problems and a low tech approach to each.
>
> Had the OP a clogged CCV hose I assume he might have mentioned that his
> airbox was full oil.
>
> As far as a cloud of smoke I drove a Dodge that used quart every 1500
miles
> for almost 100k and it never left a cloud behind or fouled the plugs
> (although I used Bosch Platinums the whole time) I just added a quart at
> 1500 miles and changed it at 3000.
>
> I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for
$500
> to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:45308781.367A66CB@cox.net...
> > Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
> > miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
> > having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Normal?!!
> >> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
> >> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
> >>
> >> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
> >>
> >> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
> >> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
> >>
> >> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
> >> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
> >>
> >> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
> >> even the sides.
>
>
>



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Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I used to have an engine in my Suburban that burned a quart every three
hundred miles. Aside from a few puffs at startup, there was little visible
smoke. I did have to install four one inch aftermarket breathers, to get
all the blowby out of the engine compartment. Motor oil is, after all, a
flammable substance, and it can burn just as well on the outside of your
engine as in the cylinders.

Wrt Billy's comment, "That being said I would be surprised at that amount of
wear in an engine where synthetic had been used since new, or seals damaged
under those conditions." I see you have bought into the snake oil claims.
Synthetic, if you believe all the propaganda, is more resistant to breakdown
and less likely to form gel and sludge when maintenance intervals are
abused. Those are its only benefits, really. It does not lubricate any
better than the correct API/SAE grade of dino oil when new, and does not
allow more or less wear than dino oil, as long as proper change intervals
are maintained.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9e846$4530e62e$422afc51$8490@FUSE.NET...
> I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and
Bill
> you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
> the 60s..
>
> Doug, I don't question your knowledge of electronics diagnosis because I
> accept your expertise in that specific field but had you read my entire
post
> rather than just the first line you would have noticed I mentioned the two
> most possible mechanical problems and a low tech approach to each.
>
> Had the OP a clogged CCV hose I assume he might have mentioned that his
> airbox was full oil.
>
> As far as a cloud of smoke I drove a Dodge that used quart every 1500
miles
> for almost 100k and it never left a cloud behind or fouled the plugs
> (although I used Bosch Platinums the whole time) I just added a quart at
> 1500 miles and changed it at 3000.
>
> I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for
$500
> to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:45308781.367A66CB@cox.net...
> > Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
> > miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
> > having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Normal?!!
> >> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
> >> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
> >>
> >> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
> >>
> >> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
> >> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
> >>
> >> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
> >> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
> >>
> >> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
> >> even the sides.
>
>
>



--
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Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I used to have an engine in my Suburban that burned a quart every three
hundred miles. Aside from a few puffs at startup, there was little visible
smoke. I did have to install four one inch aftermarket breathers, to get
all the blowby out of the engine compartment. Motor oil is, after all, a
flammable substance, and it can burn just as well on the outside of your
engine as in the cylinders.

Wrt Billy's comment, "That being said I would be surprised at that amount of
wear in an engine where synthetic had been used since new, or seals damaged
under those conditions." I see you have bought into the snake oil claims.
Synthetic, if you believe all the propaganda, is more resistant to breakdown
and less likely to form gel and sludge when maintenance intervals are
abused. Those are its only benefits, really. It does not lubricate any
better than the correct API/SAE grade of dino oil when new, and does not
allow more or less wear than dino oil, as long as proper change intervals
are maintained.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9e846$4530e62e$422afc51$8490@FUSE.NET...
> I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and
Bill
> you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
> the 60s..
>
> Doug, I don't question your knowledge of electronics diagnosis because I
> accept your expertise in that specific field but had you read my entire
post
> rather than just the first line you would have noticed I mentioned the two
> most possible mechanical problems and a low tech approach to each.
>
> Had the OP a clogged CCV hose I assume he might have mentioned that his
> airbox was full oil.
>
> As far as a cloud of smoke I drove a Dodge that used quart every 1500
miles
> for almost 100k and it never left a cloud behind or fouled the plugs
> (although I used Bosch Platinums the whole time) I just added a quart at
> 1500 miles and changed it at 3000.
>
> I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for
$500
> to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:45308781.367A66CB@cox.net...
> > Ditto, I have never had to add between oil changes of about 3500
> > miles, on '78 Bronco 350,000, '89 T-bird 300,000 miles without ever
> > having come apart. Using Pennzoil 20/50, no additives oil, nor gas.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Normal?!!
> >> 1 qt in 1000 miles would have a cloud following you down the road
> >> and 4000 miles to engine seizure.
> >>
> >> I have over 132,000 Miles and have near zero oil loss between changes.
> >>
> >> That much oil loss indicates a problem. It may be as simple as
> >> a clogged CCV tube or a leaking ring/valve seal.
> >>
> >> Checking the plugs will tell you if a cyl is burning oil
> >> as the plug will be deeply covered or clogged with soot.
> >>
> >> Oil is known to leak from the rear of the I6 valve cover and
> >> even the sides.
>
>
>



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Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Bill,
No, I don't know this. I've never owned a car that use a quart in a
thousand miles. starting with a
'52 ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/52ford.jpg
'58 Ford http://www.----------.com/temp/lancers.jpg
'36 ford: http://www.----------.com/woody.jpg
'53 Olds: http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
'57 Fords: http://www.----------.com/57Ford.jpg
'57 Fords: http://www.----------.com/57bird.jpg
'58 Ford: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
'59 Ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/nancy.jpg
'68 Jeep: http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
'72 Ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/72ford4x4.jpg
'78 Bronco http://www.----------.com/429ford.jpg
'78 Mustang http://www.----------.com/temp/78stangLarry.jpg after my Son
crunched
'46 Jeep: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
'83 Mustang: http://www.----------.com/temp/84stangJamie.jpg
'84 T-Bird http://www.----------.com/temp/84TBird.jpg
'89 T-Bird http://www.----------.com/temp/89TBird.jpg
None of these car used oil between changes.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
billy ray wrote:
>
> I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and Bill
> you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
> the 60s..
>
> I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for $500
> to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Bill,
No, I don't know this. I've never owned a car that use a quart in a
thousand miles. starting with a
'52 ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/52ford.jpg
'58 Ford http://www.----------.com/temp/lancers.jpg
'36 ford: http://www.----------.com/woody.jpg
'53 Olds: http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
'57 Fords: http://www.----------.com/57Ford.jpg
'57 Fords: http://www.----------.com/57bird.jpg
'58 Ford: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
'59 Ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/nancy.jpg
'68 Jeep: http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
'72 Ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/72ford4x4.jpg
'78 Bronco http://www.----------.com/429ford.jpg
'78 Mustang http://www.----------.com/temp/78stangLarry.jpg after my Son
crunched
'46 Jeep: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
'83 Mustang: http://www.----------.com/temp/84stangJamie.jpg
'84 T-Bird http://www.----------.com/temp/84TBird.jpg
'89 T-Bird http://www.----------.com/temp/89TBird.jpg
None of these car used oil between changes.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
billy ray wrote:
>
> I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and Bill
> you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
> the 60s..
>
> I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for $500
> to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Bill,
No, I don't know this. I've never owned a car that use a quart in a
thousand miles. starting with a
'52 ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/52ford.jpg
'58 Ford http://www.----------.com/temp/lancers.jpg
'36 ford: http://www.----------.com/woody.jpg
'53 Olds: http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
'57 Fords: http://www.----------.com/57Ford.jpg
'57 Fords: http://www.----------.com/57bird.jpg
'58 Ford: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
'59 Ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/nancy.jpg
'68 Jeep: http://www.----------.com/68jeep.jpg
'72 Ford: http://www.----------.com/temp/72ford4x4.jpg
'78 Bronco http://www.----------.com/429ford.jpg
'78 Mustang http://www.----------.com/temp/78stangLarry.jpg after my Son
crunched
'46 Jeep: http://www.----------.com/46jeep.jpg
'83 Mustang: http://www.----------.com/temp/84stangJamie.jpg
'84 T-Bird http://www.----------.com/temp/84TBird.jpg
'89 T-Bird http://www.----------.com/temp/89TBird.jpg
None of these car used oil between changes.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
billy ray wrote:
>
> I didn't say I thought it was normal.... the manufacturers do..... and Bill
> you know this because this is the standard they have used since, at least,
> the 60s..
>
> I drove that Dodge Aries (K Car) 168,000 miles and sold it in 1996 for $500
> to a former (minimum wage)coworker who, as of last summer, still drove it.