Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I've owned two Corvairs [65 140 hp Corsa, 66 180 hp Corsa] and one Type
IV VW engine in a 914. None of them burned as much as a quart between
3k-4k mile oil changes. Even an 85 RX7 only burned about a half
quart--and that was an engine where *not* burning oil was a bad thing
given that it had a precision oil injector.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Well I will swear on a stack of Bibles the cars I listed were never
> low enough to add oil between changes. There were other cars I drove
> that did, one was the parents '59 Dodge panel 383" that the head oil
> return holes had clogged with slug. And I never owned a VW or Corvair.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>You're begging to start a flame war, aren't you?
>>
>>You'd really like it if someone said, "Sure Bill, all those cars burned oil,
>>but you just won't admit it." Well, I won't be the one. ;^)
>>
>>Earle

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I've owned two Corvairs [65 140 hp Corsa, 66 180 hp Corsa] and one Type
IV VW engine in a 914. None of them burned as much as a quart between
3k-4k mile oil changes. Even an 85 RX7 only burned about a half
quart--and that was an engine where *not* burning oil was a bad thing
given that it had a precision oil injector.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Well I will swear on a stack of Bibles the cars I listed were never
> low enough to add oil between changes. There were other cars I drove
> that did, one was the parents '59 Dodge panel 383" that the head oil
> return holes had clogged with slug. And I never owned a VW or Corvair.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>You're begging to start a flame war, aren't you?
>>
>>You'd really like it if someone said, "Sure Bill, all those cars burned oil,
>>but you just won't admit it." Well, I won't be the one. ;^)
>>
>>Earle

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

I've owned two Corvairs [65 140 hp Corsa, 66 180 hp Corsa] and one Type
IV VW engine in a 914. None of them burned as much as a quart between
3k-4k mile oil changes. Even an 85 RX7 only burned about a half
quart--and that was an engine where *not* burning oil was a bad thing
given that it had a precision oil injector.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Well I will swear on a stack of Bibles the cars I listed were never
> low enough to add oil between changes. There were other cars I drove
> that did, one was the parents '59 Dodge panel 383" that the head oil
> return holes had clogged with slug. And I never owned a VW or Corvair.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>You're begging to start a flame war, aren't you?
>>
>>You'd really like it if someone said, "Sure Bill, all those cars burned oil,
>>but you just won't admit it." Well, I won't be the one. ;^)
>>
>>Earle

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Earle, It is interesting to note that you took a reply to Bill concerning
the
actual source of the lubricants and dissected out a few sentences and
intentionally used them out of context.

Are you sure you never worked for ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/ or the Turner-Commie-We
just make up the news Network?

>"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in >message
>news:4532427d$0$19682
> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:68f89$453245ca$422afc51$20917@FUSE.NET...
> ---snip---
>> The PAO derived also have minuscule contaminants of their own that
>> are within their design specs. As you see..... nothing is 100% pure
>
> Uh, so do all dino oils, have "minuscule contaminants of their own that
> are
> within their design specs".

Earle, the paragraph previous to this one mentions contaminants in the Group
III base oil. I will assume you read it and chose to act if it were never
mentioned.... a trick worthy of an experienced politician


>
> ---snip---
>> Benefits of synthetic oil?
>> Synthetic oil lasts two to five times longer than conventional oil;
>> thus, waste oil generation can be reduced two to five times if
>> synthetic oil is used.
> ---snip---
>
> Are you suggesting that this information could be relevant to an
> automotive
> application? Because the last time Mike posted the charter, it sure
> looked
> like an automotive group charter.

This addresses the problem of 'waste' motor oil disposal... but of course
you knew that also. If the 'waste' oil was coming from a Jeep it would be
covered. In any event I think any discussion of motor oil or gear
lubricants would fit within the spirit of the charter.




> Most of the people I know, who have been using synthetic, use a 3,000 mile
> change interval.

This is the interval I have generally used for more than 30 years except
when I was running full synthetic in turbocharged AUDIs., the interval there
was 5000 miles.

I'm surprised you failed to jump in my GroupII error that was corrected in
the next post 26 minutes later, perhaps that is because you don't have a
degree in chemistry and haven't a clue as to what I am talking about. (but
then I don't claim to know what makes computers work)

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Earle, It is interesting to note that you took a reply to Bill concerning
the
actual source of the lubricants and dissected out a few sentences and
intentionally used them out of context.

Are you sure you never worked for ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/ or the Turner-Commie-We
just make up the news Network?

>"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in >message
>news:4532427d$0$19682
> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:68f89$453245ca$422afc51$20917@FUSE.NET...
> ---snip---
>> The PAO derived also have minuscule contaminants of their own that
>> are within their design specs. As you see..... nothing is 100% pure
>
> Uh, so do all dino oils, have "minuscule contaminants of their own that
> are
> within their design specs".

Earle, the paragraph previous to this one mentions contaminants in the Group
III base oil. I will assume you read it and chose to act if it were never
mentioned.... a trick worthy of an experienced politician


>
> ---snip---
>> Benefits of synthetic oil?
>> Synthetic oil lasts two to five times longer than conventional oil;
>> thus, waste oil generation can be reduced two to five times if
>> synthetic oil is used.
> ---snip---
>
> Are you suggesting that this information could be relevant to an
> automotive
> application? Because the last time Mike posted the charter, it sure
> looked
> like an automotive group charter.

This addresses the problem of 'waste' motor oil disposal... but of course
you knew that also. If the 'waste' oil was coming from a Jeep it would be
covered. In any event I think any discussion of motor oil or gear
lubricants would fit within the spirit of the charter.




> Most of the people I know, who have been using synthetic, use a 3,000 mile
> change interval.

This is the interval I have generally used for more than 30 years except
when I was running full synthetic in turbocharged AUDIs., the interval there
was 5000 miles.

I'm surprised you failed to jump in my GroupII error that was corrected in
the next post 26 minutes later, perhaps that is because you don't have a
degree in chemistry and haven't a clue as to what I am talking about. (but
then I don't claim to know what makes computers work)

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Earle, It is interesting to note that you took a reply to Bill concerning
the
actual source of the lubricants and dissected out a few sentences and
intentionally used them out of context.

Are you sure you never worked for ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/ or the Turner-Commie-We
just make up the news Network?

>"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in >message
>news:4532427d$0$19682
> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:68f89$453245ca$422afc51$20917@FUSE.NET...
> ---snip---
>> The PAO derived also have minuscule contaminants of their own that
>> are within their design specs. As you see..... nothing is 100% pure
>
> Uh, so do all dino oils, have "minuscule contaminants of their own that
> are
> within their design specs".

Earle, the paragraph previous to this one mentions contaminants in the Group
III base oil. I will assume you read it and chose to act if it were never
mentioned.... a trick worthy of an experienced politician


>
> ---snip---
>> Benefits of synthetic oil?
>> Synthetic oil lasts two to five times longer than conventional oil;
>> thus, waste oil generation can be reduced two to five times if
>> synthetic oil is used.
> ---snip---
>
> Are you suggesting that this information could be relevant to an
> automotive
> application? Because the last time Mike posted the charter, it sure
> looked
> like an automotive group charter.

This addresses the problem of 'waste' motor oil disposal... but of course
you knew that also. If the 'waste' oil was coming from a Jeep it would be
covered. In any event I think any discussion of motor oil or gear
lubricants would fit within the spirit of the charter.




> Most of the people I know, who have been using synthetic, use a 3,000 mile
> change interval.

This is the interval I have generally used for more than 30 years except
when I was running full synthetic in turbocharged AUDIs., the interval there
was 5000 miles.

I'm surprised you failed to jump in my GroupII error that was corrected in
the next post 26 minutes later, perhaps that is because you don't have a
degree in chemistry and haven't a clue as to what I am talking about. (but
then I don't claim to know what makes computers work)

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Is the election campaign in your district really close? You seem to be
bringing politics into an inordinant number of discussions lately.

I'm sure your TV has the Fox "Call the --------- Rep from Florida a
Democrat" News logo burned into the screen... :-)

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:12f95$4532899a$422afc51$8591@FUSE.NET...
> Earle, It is interesting to note that you took a reply to Bill concerning
> the
> actual source of the lubricants and dissected out a few sentences and
> intentionally used them out of context.
>
> Are you sure you never worked for ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/ or the Turner-Commie-We
> just make up the news Network?
>
>>"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in >message
>>news:4532427d$0$19682
>> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:68f89$453245ca$422afc51$20917@FUSE.NET...
>> ---snip---
>>> The PAO derived also have minuscule contaminants of their own that
>>> are within their design specs. As you see..... nothing is 100% pure
>>
>> Uh, so do all dino oils, have "minuscule contaminants of their own that
>> are
>> within their design specs".
>
> Earle, the paragraph previous to this one mentions contaminants in the
> Group
> III base oil. I will assume you read it and chose to act if it were never
> mentioned.... a trick worthy of an experienced politician
>
>
>>
>> ---snip---
>>> Benefits of synthetic oil?
>>> Synthetic oil lasts two to five times longer than conventional oil;
>>> thus, waste oil generation can be reduced two to five times if
>>> synthetic oil is used.
>> ---snip---
>>
>> Are you suggesting that this information could be relevant to an
>> automotive
>> application? Because the last time Mike posted the charter, it sure
>> looked
>> like an automotive group charter.
>
> This addresses the problem of 'waste' motor oil disposal... but of course
> you knew that also. If the 'waste' oil was coming from a Jeep it would be
> covered. In any event I think any discussion of motor oil or gear
> lubricants would fit within the spirit of the charter.
>
>
>
>
>> Most of the people I know, who have been using synthetic, use a 3,000
>> mile
>> change interval.
>
> This is the interval I have generally used for more than 30 years except
> when I was running full synthetic in turbocharged AUDIs., the interval
> there
> was 5000 miles.
>
> I'm surprised you failed to jump in my GroupII error that was corrected in
> the next post 26 minutes later, perhaps that is because you don't have a
> degree in chemistry and haven't a clue as to what I am talking about. (but
> then I don't claim to know what makes computers work)
>
>
>

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Is the election campaign in your district really close? You seem to be
bringing politics into an inordinant number of discussions lately.

I'm sure your TV has the Fox "Call the --------- Rep from Florida a
Democrat" News logo burned into the screen... :-)

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:12f95$4532899a$422afc51$8591@FUSE.NET...
> Earle, It is interesting to note that you took a reply to Bill concerning
> the
> actual source of the lubricants and dissected out a few sentences and
> intentionally used them out of context.
>
> Are you sure you never worked for ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/ or the Turner-Commie-We
> just make up the news Network?
>
>>"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in >message
>>news:4532427d$0$19682
>> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:68f89$453245ca$422afc51$20917@FUSE.NET...
>> ---snip---
>>> The PAO derived also have minuscule contaminants of their own that
>>> are within their design specs. As you see..... nothing is 100% pure
>>
>> Uh, so do all dino oils, have "minuscule contaminants of their own that
>> are
>> within their design specs".
>
> Earle, the paragraph previous to this one mentions contaminants in the
> Group
> III base oil. I will assume you read it and chose to act if it were never
> mentioned.... a trick worthy of an experienced politician
>
>
>>
>> ---snip---
>>> Benefits of synthetic oil?
>>> Synthetic oil lasts two to five times longer than conventional oil;
>>> thus, waste oil generation can be reduced two to five times if
>>> synthetic oil is used.
>> ---snip---
>>
>> Are you suggesting that this information could be relevant to an
>> automotive
>> application? Because the last time Mike posted the charter, it sure
>> looked
>> like an automotive group charter.
>
> This addresses the problem of 'waste' motor oil disposal... but of course
> you knew that also. If the 'waste' oil was coming from a Jeep it would be
> covered. In any event I think any discussion of motor oil or gear
> lubricants would fit within the spirit of the charter.
>
>
>
>
>> Most of the people I know, who have been using synthetic, use a 3,000
>> mile
>> change interval.
>
> This is the interval I have generally used for more than 30 years except
> when I was running full synthetic in turbocharged AUDIs., the interval
> there
> was 5000 miles.
>
> I'm surprised you failed to jump in my GroupII error that was corrected in
> the next post 26 minutes later, perhaps that is because you don't have a
> degree in chemistry and haven't a clue as to what I am talking about. (but
> then I don't claim to know what makes computers work)
>
>
>

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Is the election campaign in your district really close? You seem to be
bringing politics into an inordinant number of discussions lately.

I'm sure your TV has the Fox "Call the --------- Rep from Florida a
Democrat" News logo burned into the screen... :-)

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:12f95$4532899a$422afc51$8591@FUSE.NET...
> Earle, It is interesting to note that you took a reply to Bill concerning
> the
> actual source of the lubricants and dissected out a few sentences and
> intentionally used them out of context.
>
> Are you sure you never worked for ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/ or the Turner-Commie-We
> just make up the news Network?
>
>>"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in >message
>>news:4532427d$0$19682
>> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:68f89$453245ca$422afc51$20917@FUSE.NET...
>> ---snip---
>>> The PAO derived also have minuscule contaminants of their own that
>>> are within their design specs. As you see..... nothing is 100% pure
>>
>> Uh, so do all dino oils, have "minuscule contaminants of their own that
>> are
>> within their design specs".
>
> Earle, the paragraph previous to this one mentions contaminants in the
> Group
> III base oil. I will assume you read it and chose to act if it were never
> mentioned.... a trick worthy of an experienced politician
>
>
>>
>> ---snip---
>>> Benefits of synthetic oil?
>>> Synthetic oil lasts two to five times longer than conventional oil;
>>> thus, waste oil generation can be reduced two to five times if
>>> synthetic oil is used.
>> ---snip---
>>
>> Are you suggesting that this information could be relevant to an
>> automotive
>> application? Because the last time Mike posted the charter, it sure
>> looked
>> like an automotive group charter.
>
> This addresses the problem of 'waste' motor oil disposal... but of course
> you knew that also. If the 'waste' oil was coming from a Jeep it would be
> covered. In any event I think any discussion of motor oil or gear
> lubricants would fit within the spirit of the charter.
>
>
>
>
>> Most of the people I know, who have been using synthetic, use a 3,000
>> mile
>> change interval.
>
> This is the interval I have generally used for more than 30 years except
> when I was running full synthetic in turbocharged AUDIs., the interval
> there
> was 5000 miles.
>
> I'm surprised you failed to jump in my GroupII error that was corrected in
> the next post 26 minutes later, perhaps that is because you don't have a
> degree in chemistry and haven't a clue as to what I am talking about. (but
> then I don't claim to know what makes computers work)
>
>
>

Re: Oil Consumption 2000 JGC V-8
 

Hi Bill,
And where did this "superior group III" come from??????? It was
cracked by an oil refinery, refining crude.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> I noticed an serious error... the dino derived synthetic oil comes from the
> superior Group III base not the inferior Group II that is used for almost
> all automotive oil.
>
> ">
> > The dino method that you mention starts with Base II oil (conventional
> > automobile is the inferior BaseII) and chemically or enzymatically cleves