Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer.
> Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in
> this country.


We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government
pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will
probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the
supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be
put back once they develop a version which looks different than the
THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it.

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer.
> Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in
> this country.


We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government
pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will
probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the
supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be
put back once they develop a version which looks different than the
THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it.

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com...
> ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in
> > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety
> > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are
> > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every
> > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common
> > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to
> > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach.
>
> How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really
> want to know.


Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something
different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the
oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel
fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal
heat on a quart of fuel an hour.

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com...
> ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in
> > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety
> > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are
> > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every
> > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common
> > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to
> > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach.
>
> How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really
> want to know.


Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something
different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the
oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel
fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal
heat on a quart of fuel an hour.

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com...
> ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in
> > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety
> > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are
> > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every
> > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common
> > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to
> > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach.
>
> How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really
> want to know.


Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something
different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the
oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel
fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal
heat on a quart of fuel an hour.

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it
with all the pollution stuff taken off.

So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots
that can't pass real pollution controls...

Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high
sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so
>> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that
>> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly
>> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group.
>
> It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over
> there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you
> get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn
> regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them
> it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is
> prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older
> chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service
> Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US
> format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average
> bear.
>
>> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the
>> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each
>> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin
>> the bearings on an Indy Racer.
>
>
> That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel
> drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC
> gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly
> poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A.
> They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case.
>
> I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and
> Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen
> more in off road recreational use.
>

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it
with all the pollution stuff taken off.

So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots
that can't pass real pollution controls...

Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high
sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so
>> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that
>> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly
>> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group.
>
> It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over
> there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you
> get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn
> regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them
> it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is
> prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older
> chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service
> Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US
> format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average
> bear.
>
>> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the
>> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each
>> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin
>> the bearings on an Indy Racer.
>
>
> That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel
> drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC
> gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly
> poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A.
> They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case.
>
> I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and
> Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen
> more in off road recreational use.
>

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it
with all the pollution stuff taken off.

So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots
that can't pass real pollution controls...

Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high
sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so
>> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that
>> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly
>> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group.
>
> It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over
> there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you
> get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn
> regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them
> it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is
> prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older
> chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service
> Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US
> format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average
> bear.
>
>> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the
>> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each
>> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin
>> the bearings on an Indy Racer.
>
>
> That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel
> drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC
> gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly
> poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A.
> They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case.
>
> I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and
> Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen
> more in off road recreational use.
>

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377479.434458.313040@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com...
> > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in
> > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety
> > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are
> > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every
> > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common
> > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to
> > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach.
> >
> > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People
> > really want to know.
>
>
> Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something
> different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the
> oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel
> fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal
> heat on a quart of fuel an hour.
>
"Something different planned", uh, huh. A fuel burning cab heater is OK if
you pay attention to maintenance. Mechanics that can rebuild an engine or
an automatic transmission get all thumbs when faced with one.

Earle

Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
 

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377479.434458.313040@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com...
> > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in
> > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety
> > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are
> > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every
> > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common
> > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to
> > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach.
> >
> > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People
> > really want to know.
>
>
> Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something
> different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the
> oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel
> fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal
> heat on a quart of fuel an hour.
>
"Something different planned", uh, huh. A fuel burning cab heater is OK if
you pay attention to maintenance. Mechanics that can rebuild an engine or
an automatic transmission get all thumbs when faced with one.

Earle