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Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
That is a fact our 85% has made the poor Mexicans south of the border
unable to buy tortillas. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:bbidnZoDp-6R3W3YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. > > Earle > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ldidndF8u6L5u23YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Run bio diesel. > > > > Earle Horton proclaimed: > > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:45ef469b$0$4966$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > > > > > >>I would love to run Diesel if it wasn't so bad smelling. I am a low rpm > > >>torque lover. No problems for a generator or even furnace, but Jeep, > > >>nope.... We get enough fumes if the wind is wrong with just a gas > > >>engine if running solo, let alone in groups. Our Canadian stuff is > > >>almost half sulfur I think. Apparently they would have to double the > > >>price or something like that to clean it up... ;-) > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>Spdloader wrote: > > >> > > >>>I must admit, I, too have considered some type of diesel swap into my > > > > > > latest > > > > > >>>'87 CJ project. > > >>>I didn't consider the "stinkin' people out" side of it, but I don't > > > > > > wheel in > > > > > >>>large groups like that anyway. > > >>> > > >>>Spdloader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > >>>news:45eed1d5$0$18152$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newsho sting.com... > > >>> > > >>>>I'll bite for the Troll. > > >>>> > > >>>>Just how many of the various stink pots will actually 'fit' in a Jeep, > > > > > > eh? > > > > > >>>>There is this slight issue with oil pan clearances and adapters. > > > > > > Despite > > > > > >>>>your racist take on the companies that make adapters, they obviously > > > > > > are > > > > > >>>>smart enough to know stupidity when they see it. Means they are > still > > >>>>smarter than you Bret... > > >>>> > > >>>>And who would want to 'always' have to bring up the end of the line > > >>>>forever when off road or even on a road trip because they stink out > the > > >>>>'real' Jeeps behind them too much with their belching of black smoke. > > >>>> > > >>>>Until the oil companies clean up their Diesel, it will never be a > > > > > > welcome > > > > > >>>>addition to any of the Jeep runs we go on, except to tag along at the > > > > > > end > > > > > >>>>like I mentioned. > > >>>> > > >>>>Here in Canada, it is impossible to even follow a city bus in traffic > > > > > > in > > > > > >>>>an open top Jeep, let along have to gag along behind one on the trail. > > >>>> > > >>>>And Yes Bret, this have been brought up every time you post this troll > > > > > > by > > > > > >>>>not just me. > > >>>> > > >>>>Now if you have the money to but one of these 'new' engines that > > >>>>supposedly don't smoke 'as bad', others have posted that they still > get > > >>>>sent to the back of the line because of stench. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mike > > >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >>>> > > >>>>Bret Ludwig wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>"Diesels are neat. They power some amazing equipment. There is no > > >>>>>doubt that diesels can offer great economy, but the question is, > "What > > >>>>>diesel engines are available for Jeep conversions that are: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> common across the nation > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right size > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right weight > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> have a broad enough operating range for a multi-use vehicle > such > > >>>>>as a Jeep > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> affordable to buy > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> compatible with transmissions that must also meet the above > > >>>>>requirements" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Isuzu-several > > >>>>> Nissan-SD25, SD33T > > >>>>> Mercedes-OM617 > > >>>>> Mitsubishi-several > > >>>>> Perkins-still out there, low power-but FACTORY in CJs > > >>>>> VW-maybe for a flatfender > > >>>>> Peugeot-don't laugh, common in Bobcats! > > >>>>> Cummins-OK if trans upgraded, heavy, loud > > >>>>> Volvo-same as Cummins > > >>>>> Detroit Diesel, Cat, Mack-NO!!! > > >>>>> Iveco-possible > > >>>>> > > >>>>> How many do you need? > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
That is a fact our 85% has made the poor Mexicans south of the border
unable to buy tortillas. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:bbidnZoDp-6R3W3YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. > > Earle > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ldidndF8u6L5u23YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Run bio diesel. > > > > Earle Horton proclaimed: > > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:45ef469b$0$4966$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > > > > > >>I would love to run Diesel if it wasn't so bad smelling. I am a low rpm > > >>torque lover. No problems for a generator or even furnace, but Jeep, > > >>nope.... We get enough fumes if the wind is wrong with just a gas > > >>engine if running solo, let alone in groups. Our Canadian stuff is > > >>almost half sulfur I think. Apparently they would have to double the > > >>price or something like that to clean it up... ;-) > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>Spdloader wrote: > > >> > > >>>I must admit, I, too have considered some type of diesel swap into my > > > > > > latest > > > > > >>>'87 CJ project. > > >>>I didn't consider the "stinkin' people out" side of it, but I don't > > > > > > wheel in > > > > > >>>large groups like that anyway. > > >>> > > >>>Spdloader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > >>>news:45eed1d5$0$18152$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newsho sting.com... > > >>> > > >>>>I'll bite for the Troll. > > >>>> > > >>>>Just how many of the various stink pots will actually 'fit' in a Jeep, > > > > > > eh? > > > > > >>>>There is this slight issue with oil pan clearances and adapters. > > > > > > Despite > > > > > >>>>your racist take on the companies that make adapters, they obviously > > > > > > are > > > > > >>>>smart enough to know stupidity when they see it. Means they are > still > > >>>>smarter than you Bret... > > >>>> > > >>>>And who would want to 'always' have to bring up the end of the line > > >>>>forever when off road or even on a road trip because they stink out > the > > >>>>'real' Jeeps behind them too much with their belching of black smoke. > > >>>> > > >>>>Until the oil companies clean up their Diesel, it will never be a > > > > > > welcome > > > > > >>>>addition to any of the Jeep runs we go on, except to tag along at the > > > > > > end > > > > > >>>>like I mentioned. > > >>>> > > >>>>Here in Canada, it is impossible to even follow a city bus in traffic > > > > > > in > > > > > >>>>an open top Jeep, let along have to gag along behind one on the trail. > > >>>> > > >>>>And Yes Bret, this have been brought up every time you post this troll > > > > > > by > > > > > >>>>not just me. > > >>>> > > >>>>Now if you have the money to but one of these 'new' engines that > > >>>>supposedly don't smoke 'as bad', others have posted that they still > get > > >>>>sent to the back of the line because of stench. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mike > > >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >>>> > > >>>>Bret Ludwig wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>"Diesels are neat. They power some amazing equipment. There is no > > >>>>>doubt that diesels can offer great economy, but the question is, > "What > > >>>>>diesel engines are available for Jeep conversions that are: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> common across the nation > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right size > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right weight > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> have a broad enough operating range for a multi-use vehicle > such > > >>>>>as a Jeep > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> affordable to buy > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> compatible with transmissions that must also meet the above > > >>>>>requirements" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Isuzu-several > > >>>>> Nissan-SD25, SD33T > > >>>>> Mercedes-OM617 > > >>>>> Mitsubishi-several > > >>>>> Perkins-still out there, low power-but FACTORY in CJs > > >>>>> VW-maybe for a flatfender > > >>>>> Peugeot-don't laugh, common in Bobcats! > > >>>>> Cummins-OK if trans upgraded, heavy, loud > > >>>>> Volvo-same as Cummins > > >>>>> Detroit Diesel, Cat, Mack-NO!!! > > >>>>> Iveco-possible > > >>>>> > > >>>>> How many do you need? > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
That is a fact our 85% has made the poor Mexicans south of the border
unable to buy tortillas. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:bbidnZoDp-6R3W3YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. > > Earle > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ldidndF8u6L5u23YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Run bio diesel. > > > > Earle Horton proclaimed: > > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:45ef469b$0$4966$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > > > > > >>I would love to run Diesel if it wasn't so bad smelling. I am a low rpm > > >>torque lover. No problems for a generator or even furnace, but Jeep, > > >>nope.... We get enough fumes if the wind is wrong with just a gas > > >>engine if running solo, let alone in groups. Our Canadian stuff is > > >>almost half sulfur I think. Apparently they would have to double the > > >>price or something like that to clean it up... ;-) > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>Spdloader wrote: > > >> > > >>>I must admit, I, too have considered some type of diesel swap into my > > > > > > latest > > > > > >>>'87 CJ project. > > >>>I didn't consider the "stinkin' people out" side of it, but I don't > > > > > > wheel in > > > > > >>>large groups like that anyway. > > >>> > > >>>Spdloader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > >>>news:45eed1d5$0$18152$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newsho sting.com... > > >>> > > >>>>I'll bite for the Troll. > > >>>> > > >>>>Just how many of the various stink pots will actually 'fit' in a Jeep, > > > > > > eh? > > > > > >>>>There is this slight issue with oil pan clearances and adapters. > > > > > > Despite > > > > > >>>>your racist take on the companies that make adapters, they obviously > > > > > > are > > > > > >>>>smart enough to know stupidity when they see it. Means they are > still > > >>>>smarter than you Bret... > > >>>> > > >>>>And who would want to 'always' have to bring up the end of the line > > >>>>forever when off road or even on a road trip because they stink out > the > > >>>>'real' Jeeps behind them too much with their belching of black smoke. > > >>>> > > >>>>Until the oil companies clean up their Diesel, it will never be a > > > > > > welcome > > > > > >>>>addition to any of the Jeep runs we go on, except to tag along at the > > > > > > end > > > > > >>>>like I mentioned. > > >>>> > > >>>>Here in Canada, it is impossible to even follow a city bus in traffic > > > > > > in > > > > > >>>>an open top Jeep, let along have to gag along behind one on the trail. > > >>>> > > >>>>And Yes Bret, this have been brought up every time you post this troll > > > > > > by > > > > > >>>>not just me. > > >>>> > > >>>>Now if you have the money to but one of these 'new' engines that > > >>>>supposedly don't smoke 'as bad', others have posted that they still > get > > >>>>sent to the back of the line because of stench. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mike > > >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >>>> > > >>>>Bret Ludwig wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>"Diesels are neat. They power some amazing equipment. There is no > > >>>>>doubt that diesels can offer great economy, but the question is, > "What > > >>>>>diesel engines are available for Jeep conversions that are: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> common across the nation > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right size > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right weight > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> have a broad enough operating range for a multi-use vehicle > such > > >>>>>as a Jeep > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> affordable to buy > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> compatible with transmissions that must also meet the above > > >>>>>requirements" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Isuzu-several > > >>>>> Nissan-SD25, SD33T > > >>>>> Mercedes-OM617 > > >>>>> Mitsubishi-several > > >>>>> Perkins-still out there, low power-but FACTORY in CJs > > >>>>> VW-maybe for a flatfender > > >>>>> Peugeot-don't laugh, common in Bobcats! > > >>>>> Cummins-OK if trans upgraded, heavy, loud > > >>>>> Volvo-same as Cummins > > >>>>> Detroit Diesel, Cat, Mack-NO!!! > > >>>>> Iveco-possible > > >>>>> > > >>>>> How many do you need? > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... > California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... > California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... > California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > > > > > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > > the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > > > > > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > > the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > > > > > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > > the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
LOL
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:Ys2dnQcNH7ns1m3YnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. > > Cheers, > > Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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