No Spark
10-20-2005, 09:18 AM
#21
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Re: No Spark
A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Fred Garvin wrote:
>
> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>
> Thanks!
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> > It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> > distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> > should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Fred Garvin wrote:
> >> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
> >> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
> >>
> >> No codes.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
> >>>working ok?
> >>>
> >>>Fred Garvin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >>>>no spark?
> >>>>
> >>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>>>
> >>>>Many thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>Fred
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Fred Garvin wrote:
>
> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>
> Thanks!
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> > It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> > distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> > should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Fred Garvin wrote:
> >> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
> >> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
> >>
> >> No codes.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
> >>>working ok?
> >>>
> >>>Fred Garvin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >>>>no spark?
> >>>>
> >>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>>>
> >>>>Many thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>Fred
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
10-20-2005, 09:18 AM
#22
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Posts: n/a
Re: No Spark
A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Fred Garvin wrote:
>
> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>
> Thanks!
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> > It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> > distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> > should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Fred Garvin wrote:
> >> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
> >> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
> >>
> >> No codes.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
> >>>working ok?
> >>>
> >>>Fred Garvin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >>>>no spark?
> >>>>
> >>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>>>
> >>>>Many thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>Fred
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Fred Garvin wrote:
>
> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>
> Thanks!
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> > It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> > distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> > should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Fred Garvin wrote:
> >> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
> >> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
> >>
> >> No codes.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
> >>>working ok?
> >>>
> >>>Fred Garvin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >>>>no spark?
> >>>>
> >>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>>>
> >>>>Many thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>Fred
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
10-20-2005, 07:39 PM
#23
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Re: No Spark
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
> strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
> on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
On the newer I6 the ground strap is a large gauge (2?) stranded copper wire that
runs from the coil mounting bolt to the frame. Front passenger side of the
engine, hiding behind the alternator.
You can see the fat wire and just barely part of the connector in this
pic from my 93 http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/ignition-coil.jpg
I've had problems with corrosion but not near as much as the old braided
lines. That being said, a seperate ground wire between the unused engine
mount bolt holes and the frame might be a good idea.
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
>>> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
>>> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>>>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>>>
>>>> No codes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>>> working ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>>> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>>> no spark?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
> A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
> strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
> on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
On the newer I6 the ground strap is a large gauge (2?) stranded copper wire that
runs from the coil mounting bolt to the frame. Front passenger side of the
engine, hiding behind the alternator.
You can see the fat wire and just barely part of the connector in this
pic from my 93 http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/ignition-coil.jpg
I've had problems with corrosion but not near as much as the old braided
lines. That being said, a seperate ground wire between the unused engine
mount bolt holes and the frame might be a good idea.
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
>>> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
>>> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>>>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>>>
>>>> No codes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>>> working ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>>> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>>> no spark?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
10-20-2005, 07:39 PM
#24
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Re: No Spark
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
> strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
> on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
On the newer I6 the ground strap is a large gauge (2?) stranded copper wire that
runs from the coil mounting bolt to the frame. Front passenger side of the
engine, hiding behind the alternator.
You can see the fat wire and just barely part of the connector in this
pic from my 93 http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/ignition-coil.jpg
I've had problems with corrosion but not near as much as the old braided
lines. That being said, a seperate ground wire between the unused engine
mount bolt holes and the frame might be a good idea.
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
>>> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
>>> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>>>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>>>
>>>> No codes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>>> working ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>>> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>>> no spark?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
> A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
> strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
> on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
On the newer I6 the ground strap is a large gauge (2?) stranded copper wire that
runs from the coil mounting bolt to the frame. Front passenger side of the
engine, hiding behind the alternator.
You can see the fat wire and just barely part of the connector in this
pic from my 93 http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/ignition-coil.jpg
I've had problems with corrosion but not near as much as the old braided
lines. That being said, a seperate ground wire between the unused engine
mount bolt holes and the frame might be a good idea.
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
>>> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
>>> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>>>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>>>
>>>> No codes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>>> working ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>>> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>>> no spark?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
10-20-2005, 07:39 PM
#25
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Re: No Spark
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
> strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
> on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
On the newer I6 the ground strap is a large gauge (2?) stranded copper wire that
runs from the coil mounting bolt to the frame. Front passenger side of the
engine, hiding behind the alternator.
You can see the fat wire and just barely part of the connector in this
pic from my 93 http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/ignition-coil.jpg
I've had problems with corrosion but not near as much as the old braided
lines. That being said, a seperate ground wire between the unused engine
mount bolt holes and the frame might be a good idea.
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
>>> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
>>> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>>>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>>>
>>>> No codes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>>> working ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>>> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>>> no spark?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
> A broken ground wire can cause no spark. The main ground is a mesh
> strap from the engine head to the firewall and the computer grounds are
> on a bolt on the passenger side by the oil dipstick.
On the newer I6 the ground strap is a large gauge (2?) stranded copper wire that
runs from the coil mounting bolt to the frame. Front passenger side of the
engine, hiding behind the alternator.
You can see the fat wire and just barely part of the connector in this
pic from my 93 http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/ignition-coil.jpg
I've had problems with corrosion but not near as much as the old braided
lines. That being said, a seperate ground wire between the unused engine
mount bolt holes and the frame might be a good idea.
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>
>> I'm going after that next. I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
>>> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
>>> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>>>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>>>
>>>> No codes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> "Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>>> working ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>>> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>>> no spark?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
10-20-2005, 08:09 PM
#26
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Re: No Spark
Ah, bummer that it did not help though. It was worth a try and now you know
for the future as well. Good luck with this.
Tomes
"Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
news:b0M5f.2531$Bf7.318@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Thanks, Tomes. The only thing I received was "Done."
>
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8qD5f.17261$QE1.981@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Fred - do the diagnostic code thing and then tell us what is comes back
> > with. Starting with the ignition off, turn the key on-off-on-off-on in
a
> > nice even cadence, then look at the odometer. This is where the Jeep
> > tells
> > you what ails it if it has anything to say. If it has nothing to say it
> > will just say 'done'. If the computer has picked up an error in the
> > system
> > it will show a code or a series of codes. Write them all down and post
> > them
> > here - the folks here will tell you what they mean.
> >
> > This is easy and free and if it shows codes the answer (or at least a
good
> > clue) is handed to you rather than chasing the problem by replacing
parts
> > that might or might not be problematic.
> > Do it.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
> > news:AHu5f.131$GQ.114@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >> no
> >> spark?
> >>
> >> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
for the future as well. Good luck with this.
Tomes
"Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
news:b0M5f.2531$Bf7.318@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Thanks, Tomes. The only thing I received was "Done."
>
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8qD5f.17261$QE1.981@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Fred - do the diagnostic code thing and then tell us what is comes back
> > with. Starting with the ignition off, turn the key on-off-on-off-on in
a
> > nice even cadence, then look at the odometer. This is where the Jeep
> > tells
> > you what ails it if it has anything to say. If it has nothing to say it
> > will just say 'done'. If the computer has picked up an error in the
> > system
> > it will show a code or a series of codes. Write them all down and post
> > them
> > here - the folks here will tell you what they mean.
> >
> > This is easy and free and if it shows codes the answer (or at least a
good
> > clue) is handed to you rather than chasing the problem by replacing
parts
> > that might or might not be problematic.
> > Do it.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
> > news:AHu5f.131$GQ.114@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >> no
> >> spark?
> >>
> >> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-20-2005, 08:09 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: No Spark
Ah, bummer that it did not help though. It was worth a try and now you know
for the future as well. Good luck with this.
Tomes
"Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
news:b0M5f.2531$Bf7.318@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Thanks, Tomes. The only thing I received was "Done."
>
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8qD5f.17261$QE1.981@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Fred - do the diagnostic code thing and then tell us what is comes back
> > with. Starting with the ignition off, turn the key on-off-on-off-on in
a
> > nice even cadence, then look at the odometer. This is where the Jeep
> > tells
> > you what ails it if it has anything to say. If it has nothing to say it
> > will just say 'done'. If the computer has picked up an error in the
> > system
> > it will show a code or a series of codes. Write them all down and post
> > them
> > here - the folks here will tell you what they mean.
> >
> > This is easy and free and if it shows codes the answer (or at least a
good
> > clue) is handed to you rather than chasing the problem by replacing
parts
> > that might or might not be problematic.
> > Do it.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
> > news:AHu5f.131$GQ.114@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >> no
> >> spark?
> >>
> >> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
for the future as well. Good luck with this.
Tomes
"Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
news:b0M5f.2531$Bf7.318@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Thanks, Tomes. The only thing I received was "Done."
>
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8qD5f.17261$QE1.981@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Fred - do the diagnostic code thing and then tell us what is comes back
> > with. Starting with the ignition off, turn the key on-off-on-off-on in
a
> > nice even cadence, then look at the odometer. This is where the Jeep
> > tells
> > you what ails it if it has anything to say. If it has nothing to say it
> > will just say 'done'. If the computer has picked up an error in the
> > system
> > it will show a code or a series of codes. Write them all down and post
> > them
> > here - the folks here will tell you what they mean.
> >
> > This is easy and free and if it shows codes the answer (or at least a
good
> > clue) is handed to you rather than chasing the problem by replacing
parts
> > that might or might not be problematic.
> > Do it.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
> > news:AHu5f.131$GQ.114@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >> no
> >> spark?
> >>
> >> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-20-2005, 08:09 PM
#28
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Re: No Spark
Ah, bummer that it did not help though. It was worth a try and now you know
for the future as well. Good luck with this.
Tomes
"Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
news:b0M5f.2531$Bf7.318@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Thanks, Tomes. The only thing I received was "Done."
>
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8qD5f.17261$QE1.981@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Fred - do the diagnostic code thing and then tell us what is comes back
> > with. Starting with the ignition off, turn the key on-off-on-off-on in
a
> > nice even cadence, then look at the odometer. This is where the Jeep
> > tells
> > you what ails it if it has anything to say. If it has nothing to say it
> > will just say 'done'. If the computer has picked up an error in the
> > system
> > it will show a code or a series of codes. Write them all down and post
> > them
> > here - the folks here will tell you what they mean.
> >
> > This is easy and free and if it shows codes the answer (or at least a
good
> > clue) is handed to you rather than chasing the problem by replacing
parts
> > that might or might not be problematic.
> > Do it.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
> > news:AHu5f.131$GQ.114@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >> no
> >> spark?
> >>
> >> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
for the future as well. Good luck with this.
Tomes
"Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
news:b0M5f.2531$Bf7.318@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Thanks, Tomes. The only thing I received was "Done."
>
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8qD5f.17261$QE1.981@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Fred - do the diagnostic code thing and then tell us what is comes back
> > with. Starting with the ignition off, turn the key on-off-on-off-on in
a
> > nice even cadence, then look at the odometer. This is where the Jeep
> > tells
> > you what ails it if it has anything to say. If it has nothing to say it
> > will just say 'done'. If the computer has picked up an error in the
> > system
> > it will show a code or a series of codes. Write them all down and post
> > them
> > here - the folks here will tell you what they mean.
> >
> > This is easy and free and if it shows codes the answer (or at least a
good
> > clue) is handed to you rather than chasing the problem by replacing
parts
> > that might or might not be problematic.
> > Do it.
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin@fgarvin.com> wrote in message
> > news:AHu5f.131$GQ.114@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >> My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
> >> replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
> >> no
> >> spark?
> >>
> >> Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
> >>
> >> Many thanks!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-21-2005, 08:51 AM
#29
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Re: No Spark
You nailed it! It was the camshaft sensor. It's running great. Thank you,
Jerry. And thanks to all! This is a great group.
-Fred
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>
> Jerry
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>
>> No codes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
>>
>>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>working ok?
>>>
>>>Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>no spark?
>>>>
>>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Jerry. And thanks to all! This is a great group.
-Fred
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>
> Jerry
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>
>> No codes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
>>
>>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>working ok?
>>>
>>>Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>no spark?
>>>>
>>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
10-21-2005, 08:51 AM
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: No Spark
You nailed it! It was the camshaft sensor. It's running great. Thank you,
Jerry. And thanks to all! This is a great group.
-Fred
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>
> Jerry
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>
>> No codes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
>>
>>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>working ok?
>>>
>>>Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>no spark?
>>>>
>>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Jerry. And thanks to all! This is a great group.
-Fred
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:mXz5f.11749$MN6.9273@fed1read04...
> It's on the passenger-side where the distributor used to be. The
> distributor is gone on late model TJ 4.0L engines but the camshaft sensor
> should still be there being driven off the old distributor shaft IIRC.
>
> Jerry
>
> Fred Garvin wrote:
>> Hmmm. I didn't try the camshart sensor, just the Crank shaft sensor, I
>> think. It's on the bell housing. Where's the camshaft sensor?
>>
>> No codes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:gRu5f.11727$MN6.7839@fed1read04...
>>
>>>Are you getting any diagnostic codes? Is the camshaft position sensor
>>>working ok?
>>>
>>>Fred Garvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>My 2002 TJ 4L will suddenly not start. It's not getting any spark. I
>>>>replaced the Crank Shaft position sensor and ignition coil stip - still
>>>>no spark?
>>>>
>>>>Anybody have a suggestion of where to go next?
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/