new key programming problems
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Re: new key programming problems
Yes, the dash light is in the shape of a key with a circle around or X
through it. The system will also chime once at the completion of each step
I would try the "Quick Steps" below again exactly as these were what I used
successfully.
The second key you are using. Is it a fully functional key? (as opposed to
an 'emergency or valet" key)
Are you sure it is actually a transponder key? There are non-transponder
keys available that look extremely similar, a locksmith can tell by placing
it in a black box that senses if a chip is present inside the key.
The only other thing that comes to mind is that there is a limit to the
total number of transponder keys (8) that you can program into the memory.
I wonder if it is possible that number has been reached?
If these steps don't program they new key I think you may have to go visit
the dealership. I'll post the entire procedure, per the manual, in a
following post
http://www.wjjeeps.com/sentry.htm#PROGRAM
Quick Steps:
A. Purchase a blank key and have it cut
B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is programmed
"toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153301534.648194.298960@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi
>
> Maybe I didn't make my self clear, I got the jeep with 2 keys both work
> and start the car, I have now purchased a 3rd key had it cut and it is
> this key I am having problems programming.
>
> Key A (Original Key starts car)
> Key B (Original/spare Key starts car)
> Key C (New Key has been cut, needs programming)
>
> I insert Key A and turn to on, wait between 3 and 15 seconds, turn to
> off.
> I then insert Key B and turn to on (withing 15 seconds) and wait, but
> no SKIS light comes on.
>
> I assume the SKIS light is the one of the picture of the key with the
> line going through it. Which works because it comes on during the
> initial lamp test, you know when you turn the key to on and all the
> lights light up, then go out after a few seconds.
>
> I have followed the instructions , they don't seam so complicated,
> insert one key turn to on wait 5 seconds, turn off, insert key 2 , turn
> to on wait 10 seconds light and a beep should be heard , insert new
> key, but no light or beep.
>
> Is there something I'm missing?
>
> Cheers
>
> Matt
> billy ray wrote:
>> I only got 1 key when I bought my WJ. I bought two blank transponder
>> keys
>> on eBay and then had a local locksmith cut and program the first key
>> with
>> their computer interface machine using the SKIM code I got from the Jeep
>> dealership PARTS department. The cutting and programming cost $24.99 and
>> the key blanks were $11.99 each.
>>
>> I then programmed the second key myself after getting it cut by using the
>> directions on http://www.wjjeeps.com/sentry.htm#PROGRAM
>>
>> I would recommend following the "Quick Steps" as the extra information in
>> the "Detailed Steps' initially led to some confusion.
>> Quick Steps:
>>
>> A. Purchase a blank key and have it cut
>> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
>> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
>> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
>> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is
>> programmed
>>
>> The reason I got 2 keys made was so I would have a total of three, if I
>> lost
>> one I would not have to pay another programming fee.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44bd7770_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Seems to me I remember something about having to have 2 pre-programmed
>> > keys to make more. I only got one with my Jeep and the dealer charged
>> > $80
>> > (40 for parts and 40 for labor) for another one, which we proceeded to
>> > lose...
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1153250560.400565.74140@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. I have just purchased a key from ebay and
>> >> had it cut at my local key cutting store. I have come to follow the
>> >> steps but the SKIS indicator light never turns on:
>> >>
>> >> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> >> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> >> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
>> >> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
>> >> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
>> >> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is
>> >> programmed
>> >>
>> >> Both keys I have will start the car, I have put key 1 into the
>> >> ignition
>> >> and turned it it to on (by on I assume its the position that you drive
>> >> in rather than the start position) all the indicator light show up the
>> >> dash beeps 4 times all light go out, so 5 seconds after turning key is
>> >> about the time the beeps stop, turn the key to off (all lights go out)
>> >> put the second key in and turn to on, all lights go on, 5 beeps,
>> >> lights
>> >> off, continue waiting but the SKIS indicator never starts to flash.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing something wrong , should the jeep beep 4 times ( I assumed
>> >> that it is just checking gauges)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
through it. The system will also chime once at the completion of each step
I would try the "Quick Steps" below again exactly as these were what I used
successfully.
The second key you are using. Is it a fully functional key? (as opposed to
an 'emergency or valet" key)
Are you sure it is actually a transponder key? There are non-transponder
keys available that look extremely similar, a locksmith can tell by placing
it in a black box that senses if a chip is present inside the key.
The only other thing that comes to mind is that there is a limit to the
total number of transponder keys (8) that you can program into the memory.
I wonder if it is possible that number has been reached?
If these steps don't program they new key I think you may have to go visit
the dealership. I'll post the entire procedure, per the manual, in a
following post
http://www.wjjeeps.com/sentry.htm#PROGRAM
Quick Steps:
A. Purchase a blank key and have it cut
B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is programmed
"toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153301534.648194.298960@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi
>
> Maybe I didn't make my self clear, I got the jeep with 2 keys both work
> and start the car, I have now purchased a 3rd key had it cut and it is
> this key I am having problems programming.
>
> Key A (Original Key starts car)
> Key B (Original/spare Key starts car)
> Key C (New Key has been cut, needs programming)
>
> I insert Key A and turn to on, wait between 3 and 15 seconds, turn to
> off.
> I then insert Key B and turn to on (withing 15 seconds) and wait, but
> no SKIS light comes on.
>
> I assume the SKIS light is the one of the picture of the key with the
> line going through it. Which works because it comes on during the
> initial lamp test, you know when you turn the key to on and all the
> lights light up, then go out after a few seconds.
>
> I have followed the instructions , they don't seam so complicated,
> insert one key turn to on wait 5 seconds, turn off, insert key 2 , turn
> to on wait 10 seconds light and a beep should be heard , insert new
> key, but no light or beep.
>
> Is there something I'm missing?
>
> Cheers
>
> Matt
> billy ray wrote:
>> I only got 1 key when I bought my WJ. I bought two blank transponder
>> keys
>> on eBay and then had a local locksmith cut and program the first key
>> with
>> their computer interface machine using the SKIM code I got from the Jeep
>> dealership PARTS department. The cutting and programming cost $24.99 and
>> the key blanks were $11.99 each.
>>
>> I then programmed the second key myself after getting it cut by using the
>> directions on http://www.wjjeeps.com/sentry.htm#PROGRAM
>>
>> I would recommend following the "Quick Steps" as the extra information in
>> the "Detailed Steps' initially led to some confusion.
>> Quick Steps:
>>
>> A. Purchase a blank key and have it cut
>> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
>> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
>> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
>> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is
>> programmed
>>
>> The reason I got 2 keys made was so I would have a total of three, if I
>> lost
>> one I would not have to pay another programming fee.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44bd7770_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Seems to me I remember something about having to have 2 pre-programmed
>> > keys to make more. I only got one with my Jeep and the dealer charged
>> > $80
>> > (40 for parts and 40 for labor) for another one, which we proceeded to
>> > lose...
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1153250560.400565.74140@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. I have just purchased a key from ebay and
>> >> had it cut at my local key cutting store. I have come to follow the
>> >> steps but the SKIS indicator light never turns on:
>> >>
>> >> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> >> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> >> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
>> >> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
>> >> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
>> >> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is
>> >> programmed
>> >>
>> >> Both keys I have will start the car, I have put key 1 into the
>> >> ignition
>> >> and turned it it to on (by on I assume its the position that you drive
>> >> in rather than the start position) all the indicator light show up the
>> >> dash beeps 4 times all light go out, so 5 seconds after turning key is
>> >> about the time the beeps stop, turn the key to off (all lights go out)
>> >> put the second key in and turn to on, all lights go on, 5 beeps,
>> >> lights
>> >> off, continue waiting but the SKIS indicator never starts to flash.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing something wrong , should the jeep beep 4 times ( I assumed
>> >> that it is just checking gauges)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
collection...
STANDARD PROCEDURE
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
INITIALIZATION
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
will also require that you have access to the unique
four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
- PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
procedures.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
There are two possible methods to program the
SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
Method. Following are the details of these two programming
methods.
SECURED ACCESS METHOD
The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
This method will also require that you have access to
the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
Secured Access method programming procedures.
CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
The Customer Learn feature is only available on
domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
U.S. country code designator. This programming
method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
The Customer Learn programming method procedures
are as follows:
(1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
mechanical key codes.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
position for longer than three seconds, but no more
than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
sound to indicate that the system has entered the
Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the vehicle may now be
started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
in their entirety for each additional Sentry
Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
not completed in the given sequence, or within the
allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the programming will be
unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
were being started with an invalid key. In other
words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
of operation. No faults will be set.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
collection...
STANDARD PROCEDURE
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
INITIALIZATION
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
will also require that you have access to the unique
four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
- PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
procedures.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
There are two possible methods to program the
SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
Method. Following are the details of these two programming
methods.
SECURED ACCESS METHOD
The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
This method will also require that you have access to
the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
Secured Access method programming procedures.
CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
The Customer Learn feature is only available on
domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
U.S. country code designator. This programming
method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
The Customer Learn programming method procedures
are as follows:
(1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
mechanical key codes.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
position for longer than three seconds, but no more
than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
sound to indicate that the system has entered the
Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the vehicle may now be
started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
in their entirety for each additional Sentry
Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
not completed in the given sequence, or within the
allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the programming will be
unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
were being started with an invalid key. In other
words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
of operation. No faults will be set.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
collection...
STANDARD PROCEDURE
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
INITIALIZATION
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
will also require that you have access to the unique
four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
- PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
procedures.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
There are two possible methods to program the
SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
Method. Following are the details of these two programming
methods.
SECURED ACCESS METHOD
The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
This method will also require that you have access to
the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
Secured Access method programming procedures.
CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
The Customer Learn feature is only available on
domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
U.S. country code designator. This programming
method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
The Customer Learn programming method procedures
are as follows:
(1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
mechanical key codes.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
position for longer than three seconds, but no more
than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
sound to indicate that the system has entered the
Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the vehicle may now be
started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
in their entirety for each additional Sentry
Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
not completed in the given sequence, or within the
allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the programming will be
unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
were being started with an invalid key. In other
words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
of operation. No faults will be set.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
collection...
STANDARD PROCEDURE
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
INITIALIZATION
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
will also require that you have access to the unique
four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
- PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
procedures.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
There are two possible methods to program the
SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
Method. Following are the details of these two programming
methods.
SECURED ACCESS METHOD
The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
This method will also require that you have access to
the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
Secured Access method programming procedures.
CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
The Customer Learn feature is only available on
domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
U.S. country code designator. This programming
method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
The Customer Learn programming method procedures
are as follows:
(1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
mechanical key codes.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
position for longer than three seconds, but no more
than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
sound to indicate that the system has entered the
Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the vehicle may now be
started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
in their entirety for each additional Sentry
Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
not completed in the given sequence, or within the
allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the programming will be
unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
were being started with an invalid key. In other
words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
of operation. No faults will be set.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
collection...
STANDARD PROCEDURE
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
INITIALIZATION
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
will also require that you have access to the unique
four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
- PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
procedures.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
There are two possible methods to program the
SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
Method. Following are the details of these two programming
methods.
SECURED ACCESS METHOD
The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
This method will also require that you have access to
the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
Secured Access method programming procedures.
CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
The Customer Learn feature is only available on
domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
U.S. country code designator. This programming
method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
The Customer Learn programming method procedures
are as follows:
(1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
mechanical key codes.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
position for longer than three seconds, but no more
than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
sound to indicate that the system has entered the
Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the vehicle may now be
started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
in their entirety for each additional Sentry
Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
not completed in the given sequence, or within the
allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the programming will be
unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
were being started with an invalid key. In other
words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
of operation. No faults will be set.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
collection...
STANDARD PROCEDURE
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
INITIALIZATION
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
will also require that you have access to the unique
four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
- PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
procedures.
STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
There are two possible methods to program the
SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
Method. Following are the details of these two programming
methods.
SECURED ACCESS METHOD
The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
This method will also require that you have access to
the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
Secured Access method programming procedures.
CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
The Customer Learn feature is only available on
domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
U.S. country code designator. This programming
method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
The Customer Learn programming method procedures
are as follows:
(1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
mechanical key codes.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
position for longer than three seconds, but no more
than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
sound to indicate that the system has entered the
Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the vehicle may now be
started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
in their entirety for each additional Sentry
Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
not completed in the given sequence, or within the
allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
programming mode and the programming will be
unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
were being started with an invalid key. In other
words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
of operation. No faults will be set.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Hi
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Hi
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Hi
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
Hi
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
Thanks for looking
I'm pretty sure that they are both transponder keys, they both start
the car, and the newly cut blank doesn't, well it does it just cuts out
after a few seconds. Yer I was thinking about the 8 key limit as well,
but I wouldn't have thought you would ever need to program 8 keys into
the system. I would take it to the dealer, but the whole point in
getting the 3rd key was to save my self that hassle if I ever lost a
key. I think I'll put the newly cut spare in a draw and take it to the
dealer if ever I loose a key.
I would imagine that its a computer programming job to remove the 8
keys previously stored, does anybody know what the system actually does
if it has already 8 keys programmed, does it just ignore you or does it
flash some light to let you know. I have followed the steps several
times , with my seat belt on/off, doors open/closed, I've tried using
the 2 original keys in different orders.
Thanks again your all your help.
Matt
billy ray wrote:
> Bill, I'm going to forward the PDF if you want to add it to your
> collection...
>
>
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SKIS
>
> INITIALIZATION
>
> The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) must
>
> be initialized following a Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> Module (SKIM) replacement. SKIS initialization
>
> requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool. Initialization
>
> will also require that you have access to the unique
>
> four-digit PIN code that was assigned to the original
>
> SKIM. The PIN code must be used to enter the
>
> Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This PIN number
>
> may be obtained from the vehicle owner, from the
>
> original vehicle invoice, or from the DaimlerChrysler
>
> Customer Center. (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
>
> CONTROL MODULES - STANDARD PROCEDURE
>
> - PCM/SKIM PROGRAMMING).
>
> NOTE: If a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is
>
> replaced on a vehicle equipped with the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer System (SKIS), the unique Secret Key
>
> data must be transferred from the Sentry Key
>
> Immobilizer Module (SKIM) to the new PCM using
>
> the PCM replacement procedure. This procedure
>
> also requires the use of a DRBIIIT scan tool and the
>
> unique four-digit PIN code to enter the Secured
>
> Access Mode in the SKIM. Refer to the appropriate
>
> diagnostic information for the proper PCM replacement
>
> procedures.
>
> STANDARD PROCEDURE - SENTRY KEY
>
> TRANSPONDER PROGRAMMING
>
> All Sentry Keys included with the vehicle are preprogrammed
>
> to work with the Sentry Key Immobilizer
>
> System (SKIS) when it is shipped from the
>
> factory. The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM)
>
> can be programmed to recognize up to a total of eight
>
> Sentry Keys. When programming a blank Sentry Key
>
> transponder, the key must first be cut to match the
>
> ignition switch lock cylinde for which it will be used.
>
> Once the additional key has been cut, the SKIM
>
> must be programmed to recognize it as a valid key.
>
> There are two possible methods to program the
>
> SKIM to recognize a new or additional valid key, the
>
> Secured Access Method and the Customer Learn
>
> Method. Following are the details of these two programming
>
> methods.
>
> SECURED ACCESS METHOD
>
> The Secured Access method applies to all vehicles.
>
> This method requires the use of a DRBIIIt scan tool.
>
> This method will also require that you have access to
>
> the unique four-digit PIN code that was assigned to
>
> the original SKIM. The PIN code must be used to
>
> enter the Secured Access Mode in the SKIM. This
>
> PIN number may be obtained from the vehicle owner,
>
> from the original vehicle invoice, or from the
>
> DaimlerChrysler Customer Center. Refer to the
>
> appropriate diagnostic information for the proper
>
> Secured Access method programming procedures.
>
> CUSTOMER LEARN METHOD
>
> The Customer Learn feature is only available on
>
> domestic vehicles, or those vehicles which have a
>
> U.S. country code designator. This programming
>
> method also requires access to at least two valid Sentry
>
> Keys. If two valid Sentry Keys are not available,
>
> or if the vehicle does not have a U.S. country code
>
> designator, the Secured Access Method must be used
>
> to program new or additional valid keys to the SKIM.
>
> The Customer Learn programming method procedures
>
> are as follows:
>
> (1) Obtain the blank Sentry Key(s) that are to be
>
> programmed as valid keys for the vehicle. Cut the
>
> blank key(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder
>
> mechanical key codes.
>
> (2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the
>
> ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the
>
> On position.
>
> (3) After the ignition switch has been in the On
>
> position for longer than three seconds, but no more
>
> than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to
>
> the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in
>
> the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second
>
> valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to
>
> the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must
>
> be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds
>
> of removing the first valid key.
>
> (4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will
>
> start to flash and a single audible chime tone will
>
> sound to indicate that the system has entered the
>
> Customer Learn programming mode.
>
> (5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer
>
> Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to
>
> the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a
>
> blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition
>
> switch back to the On position.
>
> (6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step
>
> 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the
>
> SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for
>
> three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the
>
> blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed.
>
> The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the vehicle may now be
>
> started using the newly programmed valid Sentry
>
> Key.
>
> Each of these steps must be repeated and completed
>
> in their entirety for each additional Sentry
>
> Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are
>
> not completed in the given sequence, or within the
>
> allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn
>
> programming mode and the programming will be
>
> unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit
>
> the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a
>
> non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should
>
> see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8)
>
> valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned
>
> to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
>
> NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle
>
> while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator
>
> flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle
>
> were being started with an invalid key. In other
>
> words, the engine will stall after about two seconds
>
> of operation. No faults will be set.
>
> NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as
>
> a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed
>
> as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: new key programming problems
He does say that, I was assuming the Jeep shut down again
after a few seconds on the new key.
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> What am I missing? He says both keys will now start the
> engine....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> view!
> Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mine required just one pre-programmed key to get the new
>> one working.
>>
>> Seahag wrote:
>> > Seems to me I remember something about having to have 2
>> > pre-programmed keys to make more. I only got one with
>> > my
>> > Jeep and the dealer charged $80 (40 for parts and 40
>> > for
>> > labor) for another one, which we proceeded to lose...
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:1153250560.400565.74140@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. I have just purchased a
>> >> key
>> >> from ebay and
>> >> had it cut at my local key cutting store. I have come
>> >> to
>> >> follow the
>> >> steps but the SKIS indicator light never turns on:
>> >>
>> >> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> >> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> >> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition
>> >> and
>> >> turn to on
>> >> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts
>> >> to
>> >> flash
>> >> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn
>> >> ignition back on
>> >> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your
>> >> new
>> >> key is
>> >> programmed
>> >>
>> >> Both keys I have will start the car, I have put key 1
>> >> into
>> >> the ignition
>> >> and turned it it to on (by on I assume its the
>> >> position
>> >> that you drive
>> >> in rather than the start position) all the indicator
>> >> light
>> >> show up the
>> >> dash beeps 4 times all light go out, so 5 seconds
>> >> after
>> >> turning key is
>> >> about the time the beeps stop, turn the key to off
>> >> (all
>> >> lights go out)
>> >> put the second key in and turn to on, all lights go
>> >> on, 5
>> >> beeps, lights
>> >> off, continue waiting but the SKIS indicator never
>> >> starts
>> >> to flash.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing something wrong , should the jeep beep 4
>> >> times
>> >> ( I assumed
>> >> that it is just checking gauges)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
after a few seconds on the new key.
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> What am I missing? He says both keys will now start the
> engine....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> view!
> Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mine required just one pre-programmed key to get the new
>> one working.
>>
>> Seahag wrote:
>> > Seems to me I remember something about having to have 2
>> > pre-programmed keys to make more. I only got one with
>> > my
>> > Jeep and the dealer charged $80 (40 for parts and 40
>> > for
>> > labor) for another one, which we proceeded to lose...
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:1153250560.400565.74140@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. I have just purchased a
>> >> key
>> >> from ebay and
>> >> had it cut at my local key cutting store. I have come
>> >> to
>> >> follow the
>> >> steps but the SKIS indicator light never turns on:
>> >>
>> >> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> >> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> >> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition
>> >> and
>> >> turn to on
>> >> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts
>> >> to
>> >> flash
>> >> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn
>> >> ignition back on
>> >> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your
>> >> new
>> >> key is
>> >> programmed
>> >>
>> >> Both keys I have will start the car, I have put key 1
>> >> into
>> >> the ignition
>> >> and turned it it to on (by on I assume its the
>> >> position
>> >> that you drive
>> >> in rather than the start position) all the indicator
>> >> light
>> >> show up the
>> >> dash beeps 4 times all light go out, so 5 seconds
>> >> after
>> >> turning key is
>> >> about the time the beeps stop, turn the key to off
>> >> (all
>> >> lights go out)
>> >> put the second key in and turn to on, all lights go
>> >> on, 5
>> >> beeps, lights
>> >> off, continue waiting but the SKIS indicator never
>> >> starts
>> >> to flash.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing something wrong , should the jeep beep 4
>> >> times
>> >> ( I assumed
>> >> that it is just checking gauges)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: new key programming problems
He does say that, I was assuming the Jeep shut down again
after a few seconds on the new key.
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> What am I missing? He says both keys will now start the
> engine....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> view!
> Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mine required just one pre-programmed key to get the new
>> one working.
>>
>> Seahag wrote:
>> > Seems to me I remember something about having to have 2
>> > pre-programmed keys to make more. I only got one with
>> > my
>> > Jeep and the dealer charged $80 (40 for parts and 40
>> > for
>> > labor) for another one, which we proceeded to lose...
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:1153250560.400565.74140@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. I have just purchased a
>> >> key
>> >> from ebay and
>> >> had it cut at my local key cutting store. I have come
>> >> to
>> >> follow the
>> >> steps but the SKIS indicator light never turns on:
>> >>
>> >> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> >> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> >> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition
>> >> and
>> >> turn to on
>> >> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts
>> >> to
>> >> flash
>> >> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn
>> >> ignition back on
>> >> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your
>> >> new
>> >> key is
>> >> programmed
>> >>
>> >> Both keys I have will start the car, I have put key 1
>> >> into
>> >> the ignition
>> >> and turned it it to on (by on I assume its the
>> >> position
>> >> that you drive
>> >> in rather than the start position) all the indicator
>> >> light
>> >> show up the
>> >> dash beeps 4 times all light go out, so 5 seconds
>> >> after
>> >> turning key is
>> >> about the time the beeps stop, turn the key to off
>> >> (all
>> >> lights go out)
>> >> put the second key in and turn to on, all lights go
>> >> on, 5
>> >> beeps, lights
>> >> off, continue waiting but the SKIS indicator never
>> >> starts
>> >> to flash.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing something wrong , should the jeep beep 4
>> >> times
>> >> ( I assumed
>> >> that it is just checking gauges)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
after a few seconds on the new key.
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> What am I missing? He says both keys will now start the
> engine....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in
> '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> view!
> Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mine required just one pre-programmed key to get the new
>> one working.
>>
>> Seahag wrote:
>> > Seems to me I remember something about having to have 2
>> > pre-programmed keys to make more. I only got one with
>> > my
>> > Jeep and the dealer charged $80 (40 for parts and 40
>> > for
>> > labor) for another one, which we proceeded to lose...
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "toxicated101" <matt.wheatley@gmail.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:1153250560.400565.74140@b28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. I have just purchased a
>> >> key
>> >> from ebay and
>> >> had it cut at my local key cutting store. I have come
>> >> to
>> >> follow the
>> >> steps but the SKIS indicator light never turns on:
>> >>
>> >> B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
>> >> C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
>> >> D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition
>> >> and
>> >> turn to on
>> >> E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts
>> >> to
>> >> flash
>> >> F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn
>> >> ignition back on
>> >> G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your
>> >> new
>> >> key is
>> >> programmed
>> >>
>> >> Both keys I have will start the car, I have put key 1
>> >> into
>> >> the ignition
>> >> and turned it it to on (by on I assume its the
>> >> position
>> >> that you drive
>> >> in rather than the start position) all the indicator
>> >> light
>> >> show up the
>> >> dash beeps 4 times all light go out, so 5 seconds
>> >> after
>> >> turning key is
>> >> about the time the beeps stop, turn the key to off
>> >> (all
>> >> lights go out)
>> >> put the second key in and turn to on, all lights go
>> >> on, 5
>> >> beeps, lights
>> >> off, continue waiting but the SKIS indicator never
>> >> starts
>> >> to flash.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing something wrong , should the jeep beep 4
>> >> times
>> >> ( I assumed
>> >> that it is just checking gauges)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/