Clap Trap

Yeah - that's about as ridiculous as all these excursions I see running
around with dinky class 1 hitches on them.

Dave Milne wrote:
> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>
>>http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>>>You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>>n.
>
>
>

SoK66

Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp

If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
lower suspension than the TJ.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp

These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.

Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.

Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
square headlights are back!!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599

Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
camoflage.

http://jeep.blogplot.com/

Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
in camo.

http://www.colorado4wheel.com





"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> n.
>>
>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>
>>
>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>
>>
>>
>>

SoK66

Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp

If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
lower suspension than the TJ.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp

These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.

Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.

Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
square headlights are back!!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599

Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
camoflage.

http://jeep.blogplot.com/

Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
in camo.

http://www.colorado4wheel.com





"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> n.
>>
>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>
>>
>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>
>>
>>
>>

SoK66

Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp

If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
lower suspension than the TJ.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp

These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.

Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.

Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
square headlights are back!!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599

Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
camoflage.

http://jeep.blogplot.com/

Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
in camo.

http://www.colorado4wheel.com





"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> n.
>>
>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>
>>
>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>
>>
>>
>>

wkearney99

> There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for
> new homes.

What's the average city mileage on them anyway?

Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an improvement
over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.

wkearney99

> There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for
> new homes.

What's the average city mileage on them anyway?

Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an improvement
over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.

wkearney99

> There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for
> new homes.

What's the average city mileage on them anyway?

Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an improvement
over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.

wkearney99

> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it?

Already did that once. About 10 years ago I replaced it's engine,
overhauled the trans and redid the suspension. At this point I'd be faced
with replacing all the rubber bits as they're all just about rotted out.
Window seals, roof racks, bushings, etc. AC's shot too (old style
refrigerant). Repainting it'll be a pain as it's got that good ol' fake
woodgrain stickers (it's a mini Wagoneer). That and a new interior as the
seats have seen better days. Too much work to end up with 30 year old tech.

> You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers

Errr, I'd have a reconditioned ancient machine. I've owned several coup
deville convertibles over the years and know what owning a classic is like.
This ain't it.

-Bill

wkearney99

> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it?

Already did that once. About 10 years ago I replaced it's engine,
overhauled the trans and redid the suspension. At this point I'd be faced
with replacing all the rubber bits as they're all just about rotted out.
Window seals, roof racks, bushings, etc. AC's shot too (old style
refrigerant). Repainting it'll be a pain as it's got that good ol' fake
woodgrain stickers (it's a mini Wagoneer). That and a new interior as the
seats have seen better days. Too much work to end up with 30 year old tech.

> You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers

Errr, I'd have a reconditioned ancient machine. I've owned several coup
deville convertibles over the years and know what owning a classic is like.
This ain't it.

-Bill

wkearney99

> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it?

Already did that once. About 10 years ago I replaced it's engine,
overhauled the trans and redid the suspension. At this point I'd be faced
with replacing all the rubber bits as they're all just about rotted out.
Window seals, roof racks, bushings, etc. AC's shot too (old style
refrigerant). Repainting it'll be a pain as it's got that good ol' fake
woodgrain stickers (it's a mini Wagoneer). That and a new interior as the
seats have seen better days. Too much work to end up with 30 year old tech.

> You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers

Errr, I'd have a reconditioned ancient machine. I've owned several coup
deville convertibles over the years and know what owning a classic is like.
This ain't it.

-Bill