New Commander is UGLY
09-23-2005, 12:12 AM
#51
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Consumer Reports got 22 mpg as a city average.
>>
>> Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
>> it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an
>> improvement
>> over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.
>>
>
>
>>
>> Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
>> it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an
>> improvement
>> over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.
>>
>
>
09-23-2005, 12:12 AM
#52
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Consumer Reports got 22 mpg as a city average.
>>
>> Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
>> it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an
>> improvement
>> over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.
>>
>
>
>>
>> Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah,
>> it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an
>> improvement
>> over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.
>>
>
>
10-02-2005, 10:29 AM
#53
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
In article <o_6dnTdzKNB_w6zeRVn-iQ@speakeasy.net>,
wkearney99 <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The GC
>rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain ugly.
>Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous. The
>pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in the
>interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>
Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
wkearney99 <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The GC
>rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain ugly.
>Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous. The
>pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in the
>interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>
Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
10-02-2005, 10:29 AM
#54
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
In article <o_6dnTdzKNB_w6zeRVn-iQ@speakeasy.net>,
wkearney99 <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The GC
>rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain ugly.
>Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous. The
>pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in the
>interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>
Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
wkearney99 <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The GC
>rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain ugly.
>Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous. The
>pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in the
>interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>
Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
10-02-2005, 10:29 AM
#55
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
In article <o_6dnTdzKNB_w6zeRVn-iQ@speakeasy.net>,
wkearney99 <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The GC
>rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain ugly.
>Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous. The
>pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in the
>interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>
Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
wkearney99 <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The GC
>rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain ugly.
>Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous. The
>pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in the
>interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>
Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
12-20-2005, 11:48 PM
#56
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Re: '07 Jeep Wrangler Spy Photo links
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:21:51 -0600, "SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote:
>Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
>lower suspension than the TJ.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.
>
>Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
>the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
>250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.
>
>Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
>square headlights are back!!!!
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599
>
>Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
>camoflage.
>
>http://jeep.blogplot.com/
>
>Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
>in camo.
>
>http://www.colorado4wheel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET. ..
>> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>> n.
>>>
>>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal
version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end
torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.
>Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
>lower suspension than the TJ.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.
>
>Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
>the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
>250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.
>
>Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
>square headlights are back!!!!
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599
>
>Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
>camoflage.
>
>http://jeep.blogplot.com/
>
>Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
>in camo.
>
>http://www.colorado4wheel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET. ..
>> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>> n.
>>>
>>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal
version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end
torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.
12-20-2005, 11:48 PM
#57
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Re: '07 Jeep Wrangler Spy Photo links
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:21:51 -0600, "SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote:
>Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
>lower suspension than the TJ.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.
>
>Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
>the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
>250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.
>
>Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
>square headlights are back!!!!
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599
>
>Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
>camoflage.
>
>http://jeep.blogplot.com/
>
>Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
>in camo.
>
>http://www.colorado4wheel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET. ..
>> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>> n.
>>>
>>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal
version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end
torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.
>Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
>lower suspension than the TJ.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.
>
>Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
>the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
>250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.
>
>Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
>square headlights are back!!!!
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599
>
>Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
>camoflage.
>
>http://jeep.blogplot.com/
>
>Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
>in camo.
>
>http://www.colorado4wheel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET. ..
>> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>> n.
>>>
>>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal
version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end
torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.
12-20-2005, 11:48 PM
#58
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Re: '07 Jeep Wrangler Spy Photo links
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:21:51 -0600, "SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote:
>Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
>lower suspension than the TJ.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.
>
>Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
>the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
>250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.
>
>Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
>square headlights are back!!!!
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599
>
>Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
>camoflage.
>
>http://jeep.blogplot.com/
>
>Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
>in camo.
>
>http://www.colorado4wheel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET. ..
>> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>> n.
>>>
>>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal
version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end
torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.
>Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>If this is it, looks like solid axles remain, but it appears to have much a
>lower suspension than the TJ.
>
>http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/...k_spyshots.asp
>
>These look to be "Unlimited" and maybe a four door derivative.
>
>Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to
>the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine
>250k of the old engine. Will be lighter, so perhaps there's some hope.
>
>Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like
>square headlights are back!!!!
>
>http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106599
>
>Here's another link with what's purported to be the TK without the
>camoflage.
>
>http://jeep.blogplot.com/
>
>Then here's one from the Colorado 4x4 site, with more detail, although still
>in camo.
>
>http://www.colorado4wheel.com
>
>
>
>
>
>"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>news:5e5f9$43328b32$45490842$25120@KNOLOGY.NET. ..
>> Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>> n.
>>>
>>> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>>
>>>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal
version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end
torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.
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