New Commander is UGLY
#21
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
aha that's more like it !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> >> > n.
> >
> >
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> >> > n.
> >
> >
>
>
#22
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
aha that's more like it !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> >> > n.
> >
> >
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> >> > n.
> >
> >
>
>
#23
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Makes you wonder why my WJ I-6 cylinder can tow 5000 # with 750# tongue
weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.
I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined
weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is
the same with a class IV hitch.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> aha that's more like it !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
>> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
>> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
>> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> >> > n.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.
I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined
weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is
the same with a class IV hitch.
--
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Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> aha that's more like it !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
>> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
>> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
>> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> >> > n.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#24
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Makes you wonder why my WJ I-6 cylinder can tow 5000 # with 750# tongue
weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.
I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined
weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is
the same with a class IV hitch.
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:sntYe.113163$G8.25277@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> aha that's more like it !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
>> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
>> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
>> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> >> > n.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.
I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined
weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is
the same with a class IV hitch.
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:sntYe.113163$G8.25277@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> aha that's more like it !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
>> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
>> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
>> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> >> > n.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#25
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Makes you wonder why my WJ I-6 cylinder can tow 5000 # with 750# tongue
weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.
I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined
weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is
the same with a class IV hitch.
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:sntYe.113163$G8.25277@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> aha that's more like it !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
>> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
>> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
>> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> >> > n.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.
I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined
weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is
the same with a class IV hitch.
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:sntYe.113163$G8.25277@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> aha that's more like it !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4b7f8$43325df9$d8449845$18321@FUSE.NET...
>> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
>> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
>> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:zVsYe.113157$G8.54753@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> >> > n.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#26
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
Nathan Otis wrote:
> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> n.
>
> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
>
>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
>
>
>
Nathan Otis wrote:
> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> n.
>
> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
>
>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
>
>
>
#27
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
Nathan Otis wrote:
> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> n.
>
> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
>
>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
>
>
>
Nathan Otis wrote:
> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> n.
>
> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
>
>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
>
>
>
#28
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Yeah - next year, the 07 models. When the TK replaces the TJ.
Nathan Otis wrote:
> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> n.
>
> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
>
>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
>
>
>
Nathan Otis wrote:
> You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> n.
>
> "Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
> news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
>
>>No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
>>go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
>>(Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
>
>
>
#29
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Yeah - that's about as ridiculous as all these excursions I see running
around with dinky class 1 hitches on them.
Dave Milne wrote:
> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>
>>http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>>>You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>>n.
>
>
>
around with dinky class 1 hitches on them.
Dave Milne wrote:
> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>
>>http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>>>You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>>n.
>
>
>
#30
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
Yeah - that's about as ridiculous as all these excursions I see running
around with dinky class 1 hitches on them.
Dave Milne wrote:
> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>
>>http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>>>You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>>n.
>
>
>
around with dinky class 1 hitches on them.
Dave Milne wrote:
> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>
>>http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>>>You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>>>n.
>
>
>