My Starting Situation (Moisture)
10-31-2005, 07:56 PM
#31
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
outside ...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4366A07E.6F4CCFDF@***.net...
> Well you wrote as if the condensation started outside the engine.
> The water is in the air that is sucked into the engine, and cold engine
> will not totally vaporize it, making it possible for us to see dripping
> from our exhaust pipe. It is of course blowing past your rings
> contaminating the oil until the Positive Crankcase Ventilation sucks
> into the intake again this time hot enough to send it out the exhaust
> unseen.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Captain Besidethepoint.
usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
outside ...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4366A07E.6F4CCFDF@***.net...
> Well you wrote as if the condensation started outside the engine.
> The water is in the air that is sucked into the engine, and cold engine
> will not totally vaporize it, making it possible for us to see dripping
> from our exhaust pipe. It is of course blowing past your rings
> contaminating the oil until the Positive Crankcase Ventilation sucks
> into the intake again this time hot enough to send it out the exhaust
> unseen.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Captain Besidethepoint.
10-31-2005, 08:20 PM
#32
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
comes from??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
>
> What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
>
> He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> outside ...
comes from??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
>
> What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
>
> He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> outside ...
10-31-2005, 08:20 PM
#33
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
comes from??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
>
> What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
>
> He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> outside ...
comes from??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
>
> What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
>
> He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> outside ...
10-31-2005, 08:20 PM
#34
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
comes from??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
>
> What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
>
> He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> outside ...
comes from??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
>
> What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
>
> He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> outside ...
10-31-2005, 08:22 PM
#35
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
We don't talk about our water injectors. ;-) Yes and a good engine
separates them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Don't forget the water that is formed by the burning of Gasoline.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
separates them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Don't forget the water that is formed by the burning of Gasoline.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
10-31-2005, 08:22 PM
#36
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
We don't talk about our water injectors. ;-) Yes and a good engine
separates them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Don't forget the water that is formed by the burning of Gasoline.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
separates them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Don't forget the water that is formed by the burning of Gasoline.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
10-31-2005, 08:22 PM
#37
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
We don't talk about our water injectors. ;-) Yes and a good engine
separates them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Don't forget the water that is formed by the burning of Gasoline.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
separates them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Don't forget the water that is formed by the burning of Gasoline.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
11-01-2005, 01:14 AM
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
LOL! Two southern California (where cold means taking a windbreaker to
the beach) residents talking about cold starts is funny. Try 15 below
- anything will blow visible vapor until all the parts warm up, even
in Colorado. At 20 below, most cars never warm up enough to stop the
vapor trail unless you get on a freeway for a considrable time. Let
it get a little colder and you can actually get enough frost on the
plugs to prevent starting if you screw up and don't catch it the first
time it tries to fire. I've had a couple of line chiefs, shall we
say, forcefully educate me in that respect as they pulled the plugs
out of a/c engines to thaw and dry them.
On a really cold, still morning, you can see the vapor cloud form over
busy residential streets.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:20:04 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
> comes from??????
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> > usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> > and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
> >
> > What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
> >
> > He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> > a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> > outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> > problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> > garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> > outside ...
--
Will Honea
the beach) residents talking about cold starts is funny. Try 15 below
- anything will blow visible vapor until all the parts warm up, even
in Colorado. At 20 below, most cars never warm up enough to stop the
vapor trail unless you get on a freeway for a considrable time. Let
it get a little colder and you can actually get enough frost on the
plugs to prevent starting if you screw up and don't catch it the first
time it tries to fire. I've had a couple of line chiefs, shall we
say, forcefully educate me in that respect as they pulled the plugs
out of a/c engines to thaw and dry them.
On a really cold, still morning, you can see the vapor cloud form over
busy residential streets.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:20:04 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
> comes from??????
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> > usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> > and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
> >
> > What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
> >
> > He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> > a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> > outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> > problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> > garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> > outside ...
--
Will Honea
11-01-2005, 01:14 AM
#39
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
LOL! Two southern California (where cold means taking a windbreaker to
the beach) residents talking about cold starts is funny. Try 15 below
- anything will blow visible vapor until all the parts warm up, even
in Colorado. At 20 below, most cars never warm up enough to stop the
vapor trail unless you get on a freeway for a considrable time. Let
it get a little colder and you can actually get enough frost on the
plugs to prevent starting if you screw up and don't catch it the first
time it tries to fire. I've had a couple of line chiefs, shall we
say, forcefully educate me in that respect as they pulled the plugs
out of a/c engines to thaw and dry them.
On a really cold, still morning, you can see the vapor cloud form over
busy residential streets.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:20:04 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
> comes from??????
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> > usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> > and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
> >
> > What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
> >
> > He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> > a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> > outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> > problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> > garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> > outside ...
--
Will Honea
the beach) residents talking about cold starts is funny. Try 15 below
- anything will blow visible vapor until all the parts warm up, even
in Colorado. At 20 below, most cars never warm up enough to stop the
vapor trail unless you get on a freeway for a considrable time. Let
it get a little colder and you can actually get enough frost on the
plugs to prevent starting if you screw up and don't catch it the first
time it tries to fire. I've had a couple of line chiefs, shall we
say, forcefully educate me in that respect as they pulled the plugs
out of a/c engines to thaw and dry them.
On a really cold, still morning, you can see the vapor cloud form over
busy residential streets.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:20:04 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
> comes from??????
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> > usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> > and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
> >
> > What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
> >
> > He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> > a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> > outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> > problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> > garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> > outside ...
--
Will Honea
11-01-2005, 01:14 AM
#40
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Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
LOL! Two southern California (where cold means taking a windbreaker to
the beach) residents talking about cold starts is funny. Try 15 below
- anything will blow visible vapor until all the parts warm up, even
in Colorado. At 20 below, most cars never warm up enough to stop the
vapor trail unless you get on a freeway for a considrable time. Let
it get a little colder and you can actually get enough frost on the
plugs to prevent starting if you screw up and don't catch it the first
time it tries to fire. I've had a couple of line chiefs, shall we
say, forcefully educate me in that respect as they pulled the plugs
out of a/c engines to thaw and dry them.
On a really cold, still morning, you can see the vapor cloud form over
busy residential streets.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:20:04 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
> comes from??????
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> > usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> > and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
> >
> > What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
> >
> > He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> > a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> > outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> > problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> > garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> > outside ...
--
Will Honea
the beach) residents talking about cold starts is funny. Try 15 below
- anything will blow visible vapor until all the parts warm up, even
in Colorado. At 20 below, most cars never warm up enough to stop the
vapor trail unless you get on a freeway for a considrable time. Let
it get a little colder and you can actually get enough frost on the
plugs to prevent starting if you screw up and don't catch it the first
time it tries to fire. I've had a couple of line chiefs, shall we
say, forcefully educate me in that respect as they pulled the plugs
out of a/c engines to thaw and dry them.
On a really cold, still morning, you can see the vapor cloud form over
busy residential streets.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:20:04 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Where do you think the condensed water inside the exhaust pipe
> comes from??????
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > While it _could_ be as catastrophic as you suggest, but the "problem"
> > usually isn't a problem at all. Condensation forms inside the exhaust pipe,
> > and blows out on start-up. No big deal.
> >
> > What in Hell are you talking about, hot enough to be sent out unseen?
> >
> > He said he sees the exhaust dripping when he first starts the motor. This is
> > a common occurance, especially in cars that get driven home and parked
> > outside at night, then started again in the morning. My cars don't have this
> > problem because my garage is clean enough that I can get both cars into the
> > garage to sleep. My Jeep drips on occasion because it effectively sleeps
> > outside ...
--
Will Honea