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Jack-Jack 10-30-2005 12:16 PM

My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)

I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
kind of black but again not oily @ all.

Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
minutes normal.

Any thoughts?

I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)


Mike Romain 10-30-2005 12:29 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
That sounds like normal choke start with a bit of condensation in the
exhaust. Up here in Canada, the exhaust will blow white for a long
while when the outside temperature drops.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
> fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
> system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
> very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)


Mike Romain 10-30-2005 12:29 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
That sounds like normal choke start with a bit of condensation in the
exhaust. Up here in Canada, the exhaust will blow white for a long
while when the outside temperature drops.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
> fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
> system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
> very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)


Mike Romain 10-30-2005 12:29 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
That sounds like normal choke start with a bit of condensation in the
exhaust. Up here in Canada, the exhaust will blow white for a long
while when the outside temperature drops.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
> fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
> system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
> very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)


DougW 10-30-2005 01:55 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Jack-Jack did pass the time by typing:
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?


Like Mike says, it's water vapor in the exhaust system.
One of the products from an internal combustion engine is
water vapor (steam), that gets held in the whole exhaust system
and eventually condenses. Some mufflers even have a small weep
hole to let the water out so they don't rust. No matter what you
do there will always be some water trapped in the system.

I blasted the inside of the tailpipe one time and that shot water
up and into the Gibson muffler. Boy howdy did I have a nice cloud
following me most of the day. :)

Welcome to winter.

--
DougW



DougW 10-30-2005 01:55 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Jack-Jack did pass the time by typing:
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?


Like Mike says, it's water vapor in the exhaust system.
One of the products from an internal combustion engine is
water vapor (steam), that gets held in the whole exhaust system
and eventually condenses. Some mufflers even have a small weep
hole to let the water out so they don't rust. No matter what you
do there will always be some water trapped in the system.

I blasted the inside of the tailpipe one time and that shot water
up and into the Gibson muffler. Boy howdy did I have a nice cloud
following me most of the day. :)

Welcome to winter.

--
DougW



DougW 10-30-2005 01:55 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Jack-Jack did pass the time by typing:
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?


Like Mike says, it's water vapor in the exhaust system.
One of the products from an internal combustion engine is
water vapor (steam), that gets held in the whole exhaust system
and eventually condenses. Some mufflers even have a small weep
hole to let the water out so they don't rust. No matter what you
do there will always be some water trapped in the system.

I blasted the inside of the tailpipe one time and that shot water
up and into the Gibson muffler. Boy howdy did I have a nice cloud
following me most of the day. :)

Welcome to winter.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-30-2005 04:20 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Normal condensation on engine warm up. That's short distance travel
like just going the grocery store is so hard on vehicles requires an oil
change more often than hauling a loaded trailer:
http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
> fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
> system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
> very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-30-2005 04:20 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Normal condensation on engine warm up. That's short distance travel
like just going the grocery store is so hard on vehicles requires an oil
change more often than hauling a loaded trailer:
http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
> fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
> system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
> very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-30-2005 04:20 PM

Re: My Starting Situation (Moisture)
 
Normal condensation on engine warm up. That's short distance travel
like just going the grocery store is so hard on vehicles requires an oil
change more often than hauling a loaded trailer:
http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Here is my starting situation...When I start my '86CJ 258 after sitting
> overnight (temps have been in the 50's, Stored in unheated garage)
>
> I get moisture from the exhaust..it is not oily or discolored, just a
> kind of black but again not oily @ all.
>
> Also I tend to have some white exhaust @ startup then after a few
> minutes normal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I did just do the HEI and found I was running on 4 cylinders...1
> fouled, 1 with no contact @ distributor. I did add Lucas Oil fuel
> system cleaner to this tank which has been in probably 1 month now w/
> very little driving time (lots of work being done slowly)



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