Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
#61
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I'm guessing that since the E-P oil is a "new" product, D-C hasn't
"evaluated" it yet.
"Campbell C Freeman" <campbellcfreeman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:td6ne.13573$w21.12731@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> Thanks,
>
> Yes, I have read all of the text on the Mobil Oil web-site. No problem
> with that. Or DC really...
>
> I guess it's up to the manufacturer to say yea or nay. But how do they
> know what you use? I believe the burden of proof is on you. I guess
> it's a matter if semantics (Merriam Webster On-Line Dictionary:
> semantics; se-man-tics; 1, 2, 3b).
>
> ???
>
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscgret@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:m6idnd7a7r9TdQHfRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>> Try here
>>
>> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/.../Homepage.aspx
>>
>> --
>> Coasty
>> Semper Paratus
>> (Always Ready)
>>
>> "Campbell C Freeman" <campbellcfreeman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:8B5ne.13546$w21.10941@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
>> | Thanks,
>> |
>> | I intended to mention that one would (by default), have to abide by the
>> | manufacturer's specifications and requirements for recommended oil &
>> filter
>> | change intervals, NOT on what the bottle of oil says.
>> |
>> | All that being equal: Frequency of change intervals, similar driving
>> | circumstances & conditions, AND abiding by the DC Jeep Warranty
>> | requirements...then what is it?
>> |
>> |
>> | ...
>> | And it's MOBIL 1 NOT MobilE 1.
>> |
>> | Pardons please.
>> |
>> |
>> | "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> | news:429CDC07.97864CD2@***.net...
>> | > Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
>> | > Engineers.
>> | > Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
>> | > snake oils.
>> | > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> | > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> | >
>> | > Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>> | >>
>> | >> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile
>> 1
>> | >> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP),
>> that
>> | >> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty
>> Requirements,
>> | >> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>> | >>
>> | >> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), &
>> API
>> | >> SJ &
>> | >> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that?
>> And
>> | >> is
>> | >> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>> | >>
>> | >> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
>> | >> weights
>> | >> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>> | >>
>> | >> Please no fireballs...
>> | >>
>> | >> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
>> | >> synthetic
>> | >> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor
>> oils.
>> | >>
>> | >> Thanks very much.
>> | >>
>> | >> Campbell Freeman
>> | >> South Carolina
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>
"evaluated" it yet.
"Campbell C Freeman" <campbellcfreeman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:td6ne.13573$w21.12731@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> Thanks,
>
> Yes, I have read all of the text on the Mobil Oil web-site. No problem
> with that. Or DC really...
>
> I guess it's up to the manufacturer to say yea or nay. But how do they
> know what you use? I believe the burden of proof is on you. I guess
> it's a matter if semantics (Merriam Webster On-Line Dictionary:
> semantics; se-man-tics; 1, 2, 3b).
>
> ???
>
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscgret@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:m6idnd7a7r9TdQHfRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>> Try here
>>
>> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/.../Homepage.aspx
>>
>> --
>> Coasty
>> Semper Paratus
>> (Always Ready)
>>
>> "Campbell C Freeman" <campbellcfreeman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:8B5ne.13546$w21.10941@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
>> | Thanks,
>> |
>> | I intended to mention that one would (by default), have to abide by the
>> | manufacturer's specifications and requirements for recommended oil &
>> filter
>> | change intervals, NOT on what the bottle of oil says.
>> |
>> | All that being equal: Frequency of change intervals, similar driving
>> | circumstances & conditions, AND abiding by the DC Jeep Warranty
>> | requirements...then what is it?
>> |
>> |
>> | ...
>> | And it's MOBIL 1 NOT MobilE 1.
>> |
>> | Pardons please.
>> |
>> |
>> | "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> | news:429CDC07.97864CD2@***.net...
>> | > Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
>> | > Engineers.
>> | > Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
>> | > snake oils.
>> | > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> | > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> | >
>> | > Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>> | >>
>> | >> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile
>> 1
>> | >> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP),
>> that
>> | >> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty
>> Requirements,
>> | >> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>> | >>
>> | >> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), &
>> API
>> | >> SJ &
>> | >> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that?
>> And
>> | >> is
>> | >> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>> | >>
>> | >> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
>> | >> weights
>> | >> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>> | >>
>> | >> Please no fireballs...
>> | >>
>> | >> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
>> | >> synthetic
>> | >> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor
>> oils.
>> | >>
>> | >> Thanks very much.
>> | >>
>> | >> Campbell Freeman
>> | >> South Carolina
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>
#62
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#63
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#64
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#65
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and
Mopar voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the
oil change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty
for that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of
Mopar's SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar
would dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive
engine manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have
written receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a
quantity sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to
meet the engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their
oil. Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it
failed while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the
warranty because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified.
Amsoil basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any
manner.
If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in
the owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head
examined. :)
Coasty wrote:
> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law. I
> have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands behind
> their products and realistically how would DC know how often you change your
> oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it and if it looks
> a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil change.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I guess Jerry says it best. He usually does.
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I guess Jerry says it best. He usually does.
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I guess Jerry says it best. He usually does.
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
I guess Jerry says it best. He usually does.
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
My question is just this, really:
Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
Does anyone know?
Sounds like no one really knows...
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:hI6ne.5996$fp.614@fed1read05...
>I seriously doubt Mobil would do anything but ignore or laugh at any
>request for a new engine or financial assistance for a rebuild if you
>claimed your Jeep engine failed while using their Mobil 1 EP oil and Mopar
>voided the warranty due to use of a non-certified oil. And if the oil
>change intervals were at 10,000 miles, Mopar would void the warranty for
>that reason alone. And if Mobil's Mobil-1 EP didn't meet all of Mopar's
>SAE certification requirements for an engine lubricant, Mopar would
>dishonor the engine warranty in that case too. For any automotive engine
>manufacturer to warranty a blown engine, you had better have written
>receipts for either oil changes or oil and filter purchases in a quantity
>sufficient to indicate the oil had been changed often enough to meet the
>engine manufacturer's oil interval change requirements.
>
> A recent thread on an Internet-based Jeep forum talked about the same
> problem with Amsoil refusing to help after an engine blew using their oil.
> Amsoil reps have always claimed Amsoil would cover an engine if it failed
> while using their oil and the engine manufacturer voided the warranty
> because many of Amsoil's products haven't been SAE certified. Amsoil
> basically told the guy to go pound sand, refusing to help in any manner.
>
> If you're going to expect an engine manufacturer to honor an engine
> warranty, you had better be able to prove you met every requirement in the
> owner's manual. And if you expect an oil manufacturer to help if the
> engine manufacturer voided the warranty because the oil didn't meet the
> engine manufacturer's published requirements, you need your head examined.
> :)
>
>
>
> Coasty wrote:
>> It is what the bottle says and DC cannot dispute that under Federal Law.
>> I have only changed my oil in my 04 TJ twice. Besides Mobile 1 stands
>> behind their products and realistically how would DC know how often you
>> change your oil unless you tell them? They cannot tell by looking at it
>> and if it looks a little dirty you just say that it is time for an oil
>> change.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#70
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:13:17 GMT, "Campbell C Freeman"
<campbellcfreeman@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I guess Jerry says it best. He usually does.
>
>My question is just this, really:
>
>Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
>DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
>manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
>intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
>Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
>
>Does anyone know?
Time loves a hero, but there hasn't yet been enough time to know.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
<campbellcfreeman@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I guess Jerry says it best. He usually does.
>
>My question is just this, really:
>
>Will Mobil 1 EP; SAE 10W30 Synthetic Motor Oil harm a new ("their")
>DaimlerChrysler 4.0 Liter In-Line Six Cylinder Motor, following the
>manufacturer's (D/C's), recommendations and adherence to recommended service
>intervals, based on driving habits and conditions as specified in The
>Warranty and The Owner's Manual.?
>
>Does anyone know?
Time loves a hero, but there hasn't yet been enough time to know.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com