Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:59:16 GMT, Joe Carroll
<jdcarroll2@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>I'm wondering if the technology exist to monitor the contamination and
>let someone know when it's time to change oil based on there
>enviromental conditions and driving habits?
I was speaking of on-board monitoring.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ
There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
<jdcarroll2@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>I'm wondering if the technology exist to monitor the contamination and
>let someone know when it's time to change oil based on there
>enviromental conditions and driving habits?
I was speaking of on-board monitoring.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ
There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:59:16 GMT, Joe Carroll
<jdcarroll2@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>I'm wondering if the technology exist to monitor the contamination and
>let someone know when it's time to change oil based on there
>enviromental conditions and driving habits?
I was speaking of on-board monitoring.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ
There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
<jdcarroll2@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>I'm wondering if the technology exist to monitor the contamination and
>let someone know when it's time to change oil based on there
>enviromental conditions and driving habits?
I was speaking of on-board monitoring.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ
There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:59:16 GMT, Joe Carroll
<jdcarroll2@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>I'm wondering if the technology exist to monitor the contamination and
>let someone know when it's time to change oil based on there
>enviromental conditions and driving habits?
I was speaking of on-board monitoring.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ
There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
<jdcarroll2@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>I'm wondering if the technology exist to monitor the contamination and
>let someone know when it's time to change oil based on there
>enviromental conditions and driving habits?
I was speaking of on-board monitoring.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ
There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
#134
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
#135
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
#136
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
#137
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
American Petroleum Institute's tests:
http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm the
> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>
> Thanks for the discussion,
>
> Campbell
>
> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
Both Mobil 1 SuperSyn & Mobile 1 EP SAE 10W30, both have the API mark of
"API Service SL/CF" in the "circle emblem" of which you speak.
However, Mobil 1 EP does not say "Energy Conserving" in the bottom of the
circle as does Mobil 1 SuperSyn (I knew this; it is the API SM & ILSAC GF-4
rating certifying & establishing a motor oil as "Energy Conserving").
Mobile 1 SuperSyn does not say API SM, but it does say "Energy Conserving."
It also says: "... meets ILSAC GF-3...". Both bottles say 10W30 in the
middle of the circle and that is what is called for in my climate: South
Carolina.
Exxon/Mobil has told me: "Mobil currently is not willing to sacrifice wear
and durability for improved fuel economy on the Mobil1 Extended Performance
motor oil.
Classic Mobil1 motor oils are API "SM and meets (sic) GF-4 rquirements (sic)
for the
respected viscosities."
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429E383A.8627DFC7@***.net...
> The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
> Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
> to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
> American Petroleum Institute's tests:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
> the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
> rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
> container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
> you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm
>> the
>> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
>> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>>
>> Thanks for the discussion,
>>
>> Campbell
>>
>> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
>> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
>> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
"API Service SL/CF" in the "circle emblem" of which you speak.
However, Mobil 1 EP does not say "Energy Conserving" in the bottom of the
circle as does Mobil 1 SuperSyn (I knew this; it is the API SM & ILSAC GF-4
rating certifying & establishing a motor oil as "Energy Conserving").
Mobile 1 SuperSyn does not say API SM, but it does say "Energy Conserving."
It also says: "... meets ILSAC GF-3...". Both bottles say 10W30 in the
middle of the circle and that is what is called for in my climate: South
Carolina.
Exxon/Mobil has told me: "Mobil currently is not willing to sacrifice wear
and durability for improved fuel economy on the Mobil1 Extended Performance
motor oil.
Classic Mobil1 motor oils are API "SM and meets (sic) GF-4 rquirements (sic)
for the
respected viscosities."
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429E383A.8627DFC7@***.net...
> The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
> Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
> to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
> American Petroleum Institute's tests:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
> the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
> rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
> container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
> you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm
>> the
>> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
>> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>>
>> Thanks for the discussion,
>>
>> Campbell
>>
>> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
>> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
>> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
#139
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Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
Both Mobil 1 SuperSyn & Mobile 1 EP SAE 10W30, both have the API mark of
"API Service SL/CF" in the "circle emblem" of which you speak.
However, Mobil 1 EP does not say "Energy Conserving" in the bottom of the
circle as does Mobil 1 SuperSyn (I knew this; it is the API SM & ILSAC GF-4
rating certifying & establishing a motor oil as "Energy Conserving").
Mobile 1 SuperSyn does not say API SM, but it does say "Energy Conserving."
It also says: "... meets ILSAC GF-3...". Both bottles say 10W30 in the
middle of the circle and that is what is called for in my climate: South
Carolina.
Exxon/Mobil has told me: "Mobil currently is not willing to sacrifice wear
and durability for improved fuel economy on the Mobil1 Extended Performance
motor oil.
Classic Mobil1 motor oils are API "SM and meets (sic) GF-4 rquirements (sic)
for the
respected viscosities."
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429E383A.8627DFC7@***.net...
> The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
> Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
> to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
> American Petroleum Institute's tests:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
> the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
> rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
> container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
> you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm
>> the
>> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
>> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>>
>> Thanks for the discussion,
>>
>> Campbell
>>
>> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
>> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
>> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
"API Service SL/CF" in the "circle emblem" of which you speak.
However, Mobil 1 EP does not say "Energy Conserving" in the bottom of the
circle as does Mobil 1 SuperSyn (I knew this; it is the API SM & ILSAC GF-4
rating certifying & establishing a motor oil as "Energy Conserving").
Mobile 1 SuperSyn does not say API SM, but it does say "Energy Conserving."
It also says: "... meets ILSAC GF-3...". Both bottles say 10W30 in the
middle of the circle and that is what is called for in my climate: South
Carolina.
Exxon/Mobil has told me: "Mobil currently is not willing to sacrifice wear
and durability for improved fuel economy on the Mobil1 Extended Performance
motor oil.
Classic Mobil1 motor oils are API "SM and meets (sic) GF-4 rquirements (sic)
for the
respected viscosities."
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429E383A.8627DFC7@***.net...
> The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
> Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
> to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
> American Petroleum Institute's tests:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
> the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
> rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
> container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
> you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm
>> the
>> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
>> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>>
>> Thanks for the discussion,
>>
>> Campbell
>>
>> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
>> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
>> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
#140
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
Both Mobil 1 SuperSyn & Mobile 1 EP SAE 10W30, both have the API mark of
"API Service SL/CF" in the "circle emblem" of which you speak.
However, Mobil 1 EP does not say "Energy Conserving" in the bottom of the
circle as does Mobil 1 SuperSyn (I knew this; it is the API SM & ILSAC GF-4
rating certifying & establishing a motor oil as "Energy Conserving").
Mobile 1 SuperSyn does not say API SM, but it does say "Energy Conserving."
It also says: "... meets ILSAC GF-3...". Both bottles say 10W30 in the
middle of the circle and that is what is called for in my climate: South
Carolina.
Exxon/Mobil has told me: "Mobil currently is not willing to sacrifice wear
and durability for improved fuel economy on the Mobil1 Extended Performance
motor oil.
Classic Mobil1 motor oils are API "SM and meets (sic) GF-4 rquirements (sic)
for the
respected viscosities."
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429E383A.8627DFC7@***.net...
> The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
> Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
> to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
> American Petroleum Institute's tests:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
> the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
> rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
> container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
> you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm
>> the
>> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
>> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>>
>> Thanks for the discussion,
>>
>> Campbell
>>
>> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
>> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
>> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.
"API Service SL/CF" in the "circle emblem" of which you speak.
However, Mobil 1 EP does not say "Energy Conserving" in the bottom of the
circle as does Mobil 1 SuperSyn (I knew this; it is the API SM & ILSAC GF-4
rating certifying & establishing a motor oil as "Energy Conserving").
Mobile 1 SuperSyn does not say API SM, but it does say "Energy Conserving."
It also says: "... meets ILSAC GF-3...". Both bottles say 10W30 in the
middle of the circle and that is what is called for in my climate: South
Carolina.
Exxon/Mobil has told me: "Mobil currently is not willing to sacrifice wear
and durability for improved fuel economy on the Mobil1 Extended Performance
motor oil.
Classic Mobil1 motor oils are API "SM and meets (sic) GF-4 rquirements (sic)
for the
respected viscosities."
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429E383A.8627DFC7@***.net...
> The term "Extended Performance" doesn't mean sh*t! It's like "New,
> Blue Cheer" for the same old detergent. In order for your manufacturer
> to take a change on it, it must pass Society of Automotive Engineers and
> American Petroleum Institute's tests:
> http://api-ep.api.org/filelibrary/AP...Guide_2004.pdf I re-posted
> the maintenance lube schedule, but this time with what Daimler want for
> rates: http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Basically the
> container must have the API of SL or SM and an SAE viscosity rating for
> you temperature area, in a circle emblem.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I was just trying to figure out what the difference is and would EP harm
>> the
>> motor ("EP does not meet current D/C warranty requirements")*, whereas
>> "regular" Mobil 1 meets D/C new motor warranty requirements.
>>
>> Thanks for the discussion,
>>
>> Campbell
>>
>> * Reply from Mobil 1 Technical Customer Service from my same question to
>> them. I have no problem with using "regular" Mobil 1 or dino for that
>> matter. Just inquisitive...wanting to know.