Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
whereas Mobile 1 does?

Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API SJ &
Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And is
M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?

SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both weights
available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.

Please no fireballs...

....this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of synthetic
motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.

Thanks very much.

Campbell Freeman
South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
Engineers.
Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
snake oils.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>
> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API SJ &
> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And is
> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>
> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both weights
> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>
> Please no fireballs...
>
> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of synthetic
> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Campbell Freeman
> South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
Engineers.
Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
snake oils.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>
> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API SJ &
> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And is
> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>
> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both weights
> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>
> Please no fireballs...
>
> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of synthetic
> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Campbell Freeman
> South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
Engineers.
Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
snake oils.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>
> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API SJ &
> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And is
> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>
> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both weights
> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>
> Please no fireballs...
>
> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of synthetic
> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Campbell Freeman
> South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
Engineers.
Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
snake oils.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>
> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>
> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API SJ &
> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And is
> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>
> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both weights
> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>
> Please no fireballs...
>
> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of synthetic
> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Campbell Freeman
> South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Old school Bill, most of the top end autos do not require oil changes until
10k. The extended version of Mobile 1 is not new they have been using it
for several years. Both versions meet the manufacturers warranty for oil
use the difference is in the frequency of RECOMMENDED changes. The
recommended change interval is only that and use of extended life will not
violate any vehicle warranty in the US by Federal Law. I have a pick-up
truck with 150,000 miles on it and I have been changing the oil every 7500
or 6 months which ever comes first. The biggest thing was finding an oil
filter that lasted 7500 and I just changed it out twice. Now there are
several brands on the market that last 7500 miles. Harley Davidson in the
past couple of years got on the synthetic oil band wagon with their
screaming chicken synIII after years of saying synthetic oil was snake oil,
now all their bikes recommend oil and filter changes at 5,000 miles. The
times they are a change in, don't get in a rut keep an open mind.

--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429CDC07.97864CD2@cox.net...
| Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
| Engineers.
| Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
| snake oils.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| Campbell C Freeman wrote:
| >
| > What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
| > ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
| > would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
| > whereas Mobile 1 does?
| >
| > Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API
SJ &
| > Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And
is
| > M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
| >
| > SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
weights
| > available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
| >
| > Please no fireballs...
| >
| > ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
synthetic
| > motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
| >
| > Thanks very much.
| >
| > Campbell Freeman
| > South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Old school Bill, most of the top end autos do not require oil changes until
10k. The extended version of Mobile 1 is not new they have been using it
for several years. Both versions meet the manufacturers warranty for oil
use the difference is in the frequency of RECOMMENDED changes. The
recommended change interval is only that and use of extended life will not
violate any vehicle warranty in the US by Federal Law. I have a pick-up
truck with 150,000 miles on it and I have been changing the oil every 7500
or 6 months which ever comes first. The biggest thing was finding an oil
filter that lasted 7500 and I just changed it out twice. Now there are
several brands on the market that last 7500 miles. Harley Davidson in the
past couple of years got on the synthetic oil band wagon with their
screaming chicken synIII after years of saying synthetic oil was snake oil,
now all their bikes recommend oil and filter changes at 5,000 miles. The
times they are a change in, don't get in a rut keep an open mind.

--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429CDC07.97864CD2@cox.net...
| Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
| Engineers.
| Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
| snake oils.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| Campbell C Freeman wrote:
| >
| > What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
| > ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
| > would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
| > whereas Mobile 1 does?
| >
| > Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API
SJ &
| > Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And
is
| > M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
| >
| > SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
weights
| > available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
| >
| > Please no fireballs...
| >
| > ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
synthetic
| > motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
| >
| > Thanks very much.
| >
| > Campbell Freeman
| > South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Old school Bill, most of the top end autos do not require oil changes until
10k. The extended version of Mobile 1 is not new they have been using it
for several years. Both versions meet the manufacturers warranty for oil
use the difference is in the frequency of RECOMMENDED changes. The
recommended change interval is only that and use of extended life will not
violate any vehicle warranty in the US by Federal Law. I have a pick-up
truck with 150,000 miles on it and I have been changing the oil every 7500
or 6 months which ever comes first. The biggest thing was finding an oil
filter that lasted 7500 and I just changed it out twice. Now there are
several brands on the market that last 7500 miles. Harley Davidson in the
past couple of years got on the synthetic oil band wagon with their
screaming chicken synIII after years of saying synthetic oil was snake oil,
now all their bikes recommend oil and filter changes at 5,000 miles. The
times they are a change in, don't get in a rut keep an open mind.

--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429CDC07.97864CD2@cox.net...
| Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
| Engineers.
| Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
| snake oils.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| Campbell C Freeman wrote:
| >
| > What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
| > ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
| > would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
| > whereas Mobile 1 does?
| >
| > Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API
SJ &
| > Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And
is
| > M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
| >
| > SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
weights
| > available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
| >
| > Please no fireballs...
| >
| > ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
synthetic
| > motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
| >
| > Thanks very much.
| >
| > Campbell Freeman
| > South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Old school Bill, most of the top end autos do not require oil changes until
10k. The extended version of Mobile 1 is not new they have been using it
for several years. Both versions meet the manufacturers warranty for oil
use the difference is in the frequency of RECOMMENDED changes. The
recommended change interval is only that and use of extended life will not
violate any vehicle warranty in the US by Federal Law. I have a pick-up
truck with 150,000 miles on it and I have been changing the oil every 7500
or 6 months which ever comes first. The biggest thing was finding an oil
filter that lasted 7500 and I just changed it out twice. Now there are
several brands on the market that last 7500 miles. Harley Davidson in the
past couple of years got on the synthetic oil band wagon with their
screaming chicken synIII after years of saying synthetic oil was snake oil,
now all their bikes recommend oil and filter changes at 5,000 miles. The
times they are a change in, don't get in a rut keep an open mind.

--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429CDC07.97864CD2@cox.net...
| Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
| Engineers.
| Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
| snake oils.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| Campbell C Freeman wrote:
| >
| > What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
| > ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
| > would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
| > whereas Mobile 1 does?
| >
| > Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API
SJ &
| > Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And
is
| > M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
| >
| > SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
weights
| > available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
| >
| > Please no fireballs...
| >
| > ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
synthetic
| > motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
| >
| > Thanks very much.
| >
| > Campbell Freeman
| > South Carolina

Re: Mobile 1 & Moblie 1 EP Q
 

Thanks,

I intended to mention that one would (by default), have to abide by the
manufacturer's specifications and requirements for recommended oil & filter
change intervals, NOT on what the bottle of oil says.

All that being equal: Frequency of change intervals, similar driving
circumstances & conditions, AND abiding by the DC Jeep Warranty
requirements...then what is it?


....
And it's MOBIL 1 NOT MobilE 1.

Pardons please.


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:429CDC07.97864CD2@cox.net...
> Probably need to grease a few palms at Society of Automotive
> Engineers.
> Two buzz words "Extended Performance" usually used to describe
> snake oils.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Campbell C Freeman wrote:
>>
>> What would be the difference (chemically, physically) between Mobile 1
>> ("Classic - SuperSyn"), versus Mobile 1 Extended Performance (EP), that
>> would cause M1 EP not to satisfy D/C Jeep New Car Warranty Requirements,
>> whereas Mobile 1 does?
>>
>> Is it: Mobile 1 SuperSyn meets ILSAC: GF-3 (energy conserving), & API
>> SJ &
>> Mobile 1 Extended Performance does not? Or is it deeper than that? And
>> is
>> M1 EP hazardous to a new motor?
>>
>> SAE 10W30: Recommended for 2005 Wrangler (TJ) Rubicon 4 IL6. Both
>> weights
>> available in Mobile 1 & Mobile 1 EP.
>>
>> Please no fireballs...
>>
>> ...this is neither a debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of
>> synthetic
>> motor oils, nor the justifications for both dino & synthetic motor oils.
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Campbell Freeman
>> South Carolina