MileMarker PE8000
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> and the mass closing of our military
> basses.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Which the current VP was more than happy to start doing.
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> and the mass closing of our military
> basses.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Which the current VP was more than happy to start doing.
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> and the mass closing of our military
> basses.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Which the current VP was more than happy to start doing.
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Exactly. I've lost bids to the US Navy. where the end-users strongly
> wanted only my product (supercomputers from the ex-superstar SGI
> (Silicon Graphics Inc) and they were clearly superior to what won,
but
> my product still lost.
not a realistic comparison at all. just how much of a cost difference
are you talking about?
> For
> anyone to say Milemarker won because it was "better" has their head
up
> their ***.
im going to explain this again, but youll have to take off your
warn-colored glasses if you are to even have a chance of comprehending
it.
milemarker didnt take the contract because it was "better" than
electric winches. pay attention here. the hydraulic winch (not mile
marker specific, but hydraulic winching period) "won" over electric
because hydraulic is better for military applications (such as being
able to run indefinately under water, critical in amphibious landings)
so the military first determined that they would use hydraulic winches.
yes, mile marker showed the military that hydraulic winches are
superior to electric for military applications, but thats now what got
them the contract to build them for the military, that just changed
their thinking. now comes time for the bidding. on the one hand you
have a company that specializes in hydraulic winches. they already
have the R&D done, and the manufacturing capability to supply demand.
on the other hand you have a couple electric companies realizing "oh
----, we're about to loose out" so they scramble to try and rush some
R&D and production to stand a chance at winning the contract. now tell
me jerry, since youre a big time government contract guy, who do you
think can bid them much cheaper? a company already making them, or a
company scrambling to get something on the table?
try pulling off those warn-colored glasses sometime, at least long
enough to look at the real world. yes, milemarker proved to the
military that hydraulic winching was superior to electric for military
applications, but they got the contract because they specialize in
hydraulic winching and can do it cheaper (and better, but cheaper).
> Exactly. I've lost bids to the US Navy. where the end-users strongly
> wanted only my product (supercomputers from the ex-superstar SGI
> (Silicon Graphics Inc) and they were clearly superior to what won,
but
> my product still lost.
not a realistic comparison at all. just how much of a cost difference
are you talking about?
> For
> anyone to say Milemarker won because it was "better" has their head
up
> their ***.
im going to explain this again, but youll have to take off your
warn-colored glasses if you are to even have a chance of comprehending
it.
milemarker didnt take the contract because it was "better" than
electric winches. pay attention here. the hydraulic winch (not mile
marker specific, but hydraulic winching period) "won" over electric
because hydraulic is better for military applications (such as being
able to run indefinately under water, critical in amphibious landings)
so the military first determined that they would use hydraulic winches.
yes, mile marker showed the military that hydraulic winches are
superior to electric for military applications, but thats now what got
them the contract to build them for the military, that just changed
their thinking. now comes time for the bidding. on the one hand you
have a company that specializes in hydraulic winches. they already
have the R&D done, and the manufacturing capability to supply demand.
on the other hand you have a couple electric companies realizing "oh
----, we're about to loose out" so they scramble to try and rush some
R&D and production to stand a chance at winning the contract. now tell
me jerry, since youre a big time government contract guy, who do you
think can bid them much cheaper? a company already making them, or a
company scrambling to get something on the table?
try pulling off those warn-colored glasses sometime, at least long
enough to look at the real world. yes, milemarker proved to the
military that hydraulic winching was superior to electric for military
applications, but they got the contract because they specialize in
hydraulic winching and can do it cheaper (and better, but cheaper).
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Exactly. I've lost bids to the US Navy. where the end-users strongly
> wanted only my product (supercomputers from the ex-superstar SGI
> (Silicon Graphics Inc) and they were clearly superior to what won,
but
> my product still lost.
not a realistic comparison at all. just how much of a cost difference
are you talking about?
> For
> anyone to say Milemarker won because it was "better" has their head
up
> their ***.
im going to explain this again, but youll have to take off your
warn-colored glasses if you are to even have a chance of comprehending
it.
milemarker didnt take the contract because it was "better" than
electric winches. pay attention here. the hydraulic winch (not mile
marker specific, but hydraulic winching period) "won" over electric
because hydraulic is better for military applications (such as being
able to run indefinately under water, critical in amphibious landings)
so the military first determined that they would use hydraulic winches.
yes, mile marker showed the military that hydraulic winches are
superior to electric for military applications, but thats now what got
them the contract to build them for the military, that just changed
their thinking. now comes time for the bidding. on the one hand you
have a company that specializes in hydraulic winches. they already
have the R&D done, and the manufacturing capability to supply demand.
on the other hand you have a couple electric companies realizing "oh
----, we're about to loose out" so they scramble to try and rush some
R&D and production to stand a chance at winning the contract. now tell
me jerry, since youre a big time government contract guy, who do you
think can bid them much cheaper? a company already making them, or a
company scrambling to get something on the table?
try pulling off those warn-colored glasses sometime, at least long
enough to look at the real world. yes, milemarker proved to the
military that hydraulic winching was superior to electric for military
applications, but they got the contract because they specialize in
hydraulic winching and can do it cheaper (and better, but cheaper).
> Exactly. I've lost bids to the US Navy. where the end-users strongly
> wanted only my product (supercomputers from the ex-superstar SGI
> (Silicon Graphics Inc) and they were clearly superior to what won,
but
> my product still lost.
not a realistic comparison at all. just how much of a cost difference
are you talking about?
> For
> anyone to say Milemarker won because it was "better" has their head
up
> their ***.
im going to explain this again, but youll have to take off your
warn-colored glasses if you are to even have a chance of comprehending
it.
milemarker didnt take the contract because it was "better" than
electric winches. pay attention here. the hydraulic winch (not mile
marker specific, but hydraulic winching period) "won" over electric
because hydraulic is better for military applications (such as being
able to run indefinately under water, critical in amphibious landings)
so the military first determined that they would use hydraulic winches.
yes, mile marker showed the military that hydraulic winches are
superior to electric for military applications, but thats now what got
them the contract to build them for the military, that just changed
their thinking. now comes time for the bidding. on the one hand you
have a company that specializes in hydraulic winches. they already
have the R&D done, and the manufacturing capability to supply demand.
on the other hand you have a couple electric companies realizing "oh
----, we're about to loose out" so they scramble to try and rush some
R&D and production to stand a chance at winning the contract. now tell
me jerry, since youre a big time government contract guy, who do you
think can bid them much cheaper? a company already making them, or a
company scrambling to get something on the table?
try pulling off those warn-colored glasses sometime, at least long
enough to look at the real world. yes, milemarker proved to the
military that hydraulic winching was superior to electric for military
applications, but they got the contract because they specialize in
hydraulic winching and can do it cheaper (and better, but cheaper).
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Exactly. I've lost bids to the US Navy. where the end-users strongly
> wanted only my product (supercomputers from the ex-superstar SGI
> (Silicon Graphics Inc) and they were clearly superior to what won,
but
> my product still lost.
not a realistic comparison at all. just how much of a cost difference
are you talking about?
> For
> anyone to say Milemarker won because it was "better" has their head
up
> their ***.
im going to explain this again, but youll have to take off your
warn-colored glasses if you are to even have a chance of comprehending
it.
milemarker didnt take the contract because it was "better" than
electric winches. pay attention here. the hydraulic winch (not mile
marker specific, but hydraulic winching period) "won" over electric
because hydraulic is better for military applications (such as being
able to run indefinately under water, critical in amphibious landings)
so the military first determined that they would use hydraulic winches.
yes, mile marker showed the military that hydraulic winches are
superior to electric for military applications, but thats now what got
them the contract to build them for the military, that just changed
their thinking. now comes time for the bidding. on the one hand you
have a company that specializes in hydraulic winches. they already
have the R&D done, and the manufacturing capability to supply demand.
on the other hand you have a couple electric companies realizing "oh
----, we're about to loose out" so they scramble to try and rush some
R&D and production to stand a chance at winning the contract. now tell
me jerry, since youre a big time government contract guy, who do you
think can bid them much cheaper? a company already making them, or a
company scrambling to get something on the table?
try pulling off those warn-colored glasses sometime, at least long
enough to look at the real world. yes, milemarker proved to the
military that hydraulic winching was superior to electric for military
applications, but they got the contract because they specialize in
hydraulic winching and can do it cheaper (and better, but cheaper).
> Exactly. I've lost bids to the US Navy. where the end-users strongly
> wanted only my product (supercomputers from the ex-superstar SGI
> (Silicon Graphics Inc) and they were clearly superior to what won,
but
> my product still lost.
not a realistic comparison at all. just how much of a cost difference
are you talking about?
> For
> anyone to say Milemarker won because it was "better" has their head
up
> their ***.
im going to explain this again, but youll have to take off your
warn-colored glasses if you are to even have a chance of comprehending
it.
milemarker didnt take the contract because it was "better" than
electric winches. pay attention here. the hydraulic winch (not mile
marker specific, but hydraulic winching period) "won" over electric
because hydraulic is better for military applications (such as being
able to run indefinately under water, critical in amphibious landings)
so the military first determined that they would use hydraulic winches.
yes, mile marker showed the military that hydraulic winches are
superior to electric for military applications, but thats now what got
them the contract to build them for the military, that just changed
their thinking. now comes time for the bidding. on the one hand you
have a company that specializes in hydraulic winches. they already
have the R&D done, and the manufacturing capability to supply demand.
on the other hand you have a couple electric companies realizing "oh
----, we're about to loose out" so they scramble to try and rush some
R&D and production to stand a chance at winning the contract. now tell
me jerry, since youre a big time government contract guy, who do you
think can bid them much cheaper? a company already making them, or a
company scrambling to get something on the table?
try pulling off those warn-colored glasses sometime, at least long
enough to look at the real world. yes, milemarker proved to the
military that hydraulic winching was superior to electric for military
applications, but they got the contract because they specialize in
hydraulic winching and can do it cheaper (and better, but cheaper).
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
mhammer8@nospamyahoo.com wrote:
> I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously:
what i take seriously is bad information. jerry lets his loyalty to
warn and supplee tarnish the advice he dispenses. if you notice ive
said many times that electric winching is great and will serve most
needs. i have yet to see jerry give hydraulic winching _any_ credit at
all.
> there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
> the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns
Mile
> Marker.
yup. its a conspiracy. ;-)
> I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously:
what i take seriously is bad information. jerry lets his loyalty to
warn and supplee tarnish the advice he dispenses. if you notice ive
said many times that electric winching is great and will serve most
needs. i have yet to see jerry give hydraulic winching _any_ credit at
all.
> there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
> the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns
Mile
> Marker.
yup. its a conspiracy. ;-)
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
mhammer8@nospamyahoo.com wrote:
> I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously:
what i take seriously is bad information. jerry lets his loyalty to
warn and supplee tarnish the advice he dispenses. if you notice ive
said many times that electric winching is great and will serve most
needs. i have yet to see jerry give hydraulic winching _any_ credit at
all.
> there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
> the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns
Mile
> Marker.
yup. its a conspiracy. ;-)
> I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously:
what i take seriously is bad information. jerry lets his loyalty to
warn and supplee tarnish the advice he dispenses. if you notice ive
said many times that electric winching is great and will serve most
needs. i have yet to see jerry give hydraulic winching _any_ credit at
all.
> there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
> the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns
Mile
> Marker.
yup. its a conspiracy. ;-)
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
mhammer8@nospamyahoo.com wrote:
> I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously:
what i take seriously is bad information. jerry lets his loyalty to
warn and supplee tarnish the advice he dispenses. if you notice ive
said many times that electric winching is great and will serve most
needs. i have yet to see jerry give hydraulic winching _any_ credit at
all.
> there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
> the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns
Mile
> Marker.
yup. its a conspiracy. ;-)
> I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously:
what i take seriously is bad information. jerry lets his loyalty to
warn and supplee tarnish the advice he dispenses. if you notice ive
said many times that electric winching is great and will serve most
needs. i have yet to see jerry give hydraulic winching _any_ credit at
all.
> there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
> the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns
Mile
> Marker.
yup. its a conspiracy. ;-)
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
That would make it very difficult to explain the POS level gear
rampant in the military long before slick willie first dipped his
noodle in the spaghetti. In the 50's and 60's, it was simply the
company with the more talented hookers of the appropriate
persuasion.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I think the "cheep POS gear" came along with Slick Willie's selling
> of our missile technology to China, and the mass closing of our military
> basses.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "mhammer8@nospamyahoo.com" wrote:
>
>>I think both you guys take this whole process WAY too seriously: after
>>being in the military for awhile and seeing the cheap POS gear they
>>foisted off on us, there's one explanation for such a huge contract (if
>>the whole Army indeed uses them): some congressman's brother owns Mile
>>Marker. Why do you think the Marines keep buying the Osprey aircraft?
>>Because at least one part is made in each 50 states. Look it up. They
>>may be great winches or they may be crap, but unfortunately I don't
>>believe that quality enters a whole lot into the equation. For every
>>Jeep-type quality product they get lucky creating, there are 50 F-18s,
>>H-60's, and M-16s.
>>
>>Matt