Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
pull.

That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.

We were talking stalled in water here.

So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)

This will draw more like 100 or less amps.

I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
the winch.

I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
later.

Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
need a 1' pop out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Amazing, and it does all that without using any more amps.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill, you really should stay out of electrical discussions since you
> > don't have the background to participate other than as an unarmed man
> > would in a gunfight.
> >
> > To humor you, the reason some winches may have larger cables than some
> > starters is that a winch circuit is designed for longer duty cycles and
> > thus the cables may be required to carry that kind of a load for longer
> > periods of time than a starter motor would need.
> >
> > Jerry

 

Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
pull.

That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.

We were talking stalled in water here.

So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)

This will draw more like 100 or less amps.

I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
the winch.

I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
later.

Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
need a 1' pop out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Amazing, and it does all that without using any more amps.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill, you really should stay out of electrical discussions since you
> > don't have the background to participate other than as an unarmed man
> > would in a gunfight.
> >
> > To humor you, the reason some winches may have larger cables than some
> > starters is that a winch circuit is designed for longer duty cycles and
> > thus the cables may be required to carry that kind of a load for longer
> > periods of time than a starter motor would need.
> >
> > Jerry

 

Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
pull.

That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.

We were talking stalled in water here.

So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)

This will draw more like 100 or less amps.

I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
the winch.

I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
later.

Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
need a 1' pop out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Amazing, and it does all that without using any more amps.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill, you really should stay out of electrical discussions since you
> > don't have the background to participate other than as an unarmed man
> > would in a gunfight.
> >
> > To humor you, the reason some winches may have larger cables than some
> > starters is that a winch circuit is designed for longer duty cycles and
> > thus the cables may be required to carry that kind of a load for longer
> > periods of time than a starter motor would need.
> >
> > Jerry

 

Bill is getting a fair education on 'lectrical stuff today. ;)

Jerry

Mike Romain wrote:
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
>
> We were talking stalled in water here.
>
> So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
>
> This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
>
> I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> the winch.
>
> I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> later.
>
> Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> need a 1' pop out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Amazing, and it does all that without using any more amps.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>>Bill, you really should stay out of electrical discussions since you
>>>don't have the background to participate other than as an unarmed man
>>>would in a gunfight.
>>>
>>>To humor you, the reason some winches may have larger cables than some
>>>starters is that a winch circuit is designed for longer duty cycles and
>>>thus the cables may be required to carry that kind of a load for longer
>>>periods of time than a starter motor would need.
>>>
>>>Jerry

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Bill is getting a fair education on 'lectrical stuff today. ;)

Jerry

Mike Romain wrote:
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
>
> We were talking stalled in water here.
>
> So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
>
> This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
>
> I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> the winch.
>
> I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> later.
>
> Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> need a 1' pop out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Amazing, and it does all that without using any more amps.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>>Bill, you really should stay out of electrical discussions since you
>>>don't have the background to participate other than as an unarmed man
>>>would in a gunfight.
>>>
>>>To humor you, the reason some winches may have larger cables than some
>>>starters is that a winch circuit is designed for longer duty cycles and
>>>thus the cables may be required to carry that kind of a load for longer
>>>periods of time than a starter motor would need.
>>>
>>>Jerry

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Bill is getting a fair education on 'lectrical stuff today. ;)

Jerry

Mike Romain wrote:
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
>
> We were talking stalled in water here.
>
> So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
>
> This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
>
> I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> the winch.
>
> I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> later.
>
> Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> need a 1' pop out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Amazing, and it does all that without using any more amps.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>>Bill, you really should stay out of electrical discussions since you
>>>don't have the background to participate other than as an unarmed man
>>>would in a gunfight.
>>>
>>>To humor you, the reason some winches may have larger cables than some
>>>starters is that a winch circuit is designed for longer duty cycles and
>>>thus the cables may be required to carry that kind of a load for longer
>>>periods of time than a starter motor would need.
>>>
>>>Jerry

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
>
> We were talking stalled in water here.
>
> So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
>
> This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
>
> I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> the winch.
>
> I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> later.
>
> Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> need a 1' pop out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
>
> We were talking stalled in water here.
>
> So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
>
> This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
>
> I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> the winch.
>
> I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> later.
>
> Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> need a 1' pop out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
>
> We were talking stalled in water here.
>
> So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
>
> This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
>
> I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> the winch.
>
> I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> later.
>
> Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> need a 1' pop out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
alternator is only 70A or so.

I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
use my hand throttle.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
> power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> > pull.
> >
> > That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
> >
> > We were talking stalled in water here.
> >
> > So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> > weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> > the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
> >
> > This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
> >
> > I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> > the winch.
> >
> > I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> > using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> > later.
> >
> > Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> > 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> > need a 1' pop out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's