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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 07:47 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
Japanese ricers are salvaged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>
> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>
> try this web site instead-
>
> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>
> Per
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>
> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
> vehicle-
>
> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>
> Fondest Regards,
>
> H.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 08:03 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
> derby entry. and hardtail.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> > I know.


Well, Citroens, at least D-series models, didn't. They had hydraulic
spheres that acted as spring and damper ('shock absorber'). Rolls Royce
used them as well but only as a "helper" in addition to conventional
springs. A Rolls weighs almost three times what a Citroen does.

A few Brit cars used a poor-man's version called Hydrolastic. One Indy
car in '64 or '65 or thereabouts used it and was called the MG Liquid
Suspension Special. It had an Offenheuser for power.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 08:03 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
> derby entry. and hardtail.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> > I know.


Well, Citroens, at least D-series models, didn't. They had hydraulic
spheres that acted as spring and damper ('shock absorber'). Rolls Royce
used them as well but only as a "helper" in addition to conventional
springs. A Rolls weighs almost three times what a Citroen does.

A few Brit cars used a poor-man's version called Hydrolastic. One Indy
car in '64 or '65 or thereabouts used it and was called the MG Liquid
Suspension Special. It had an Offenheuser for power.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 08:03 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
> derby entry. and hardtail.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> > I know.


Well, Citroens, at least D-series models, didn't. They had hydraulic
spheres that acted as spring and damper ('shock absorber'). Rolls Royce
used them as well but only as a "helper" in addition to conventional
springs. A Rolls weighs almost three times what a Citroen does.

A few Brit cars used a poor-man's version called Hydrolastic. One Indy
car in '64 or '65 or thereabouts used it and was called the MG Liquid
Suspension Special. It had an Offenheuser for power.


Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 09:08 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
remember him, Right??) project.

Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
parking lot one day,

http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/

I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
*Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
& welded back togeather.

And, yes, although it doesn't show in the pics it was quite definately
Rusty.

Waiting Patiently,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
>have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
>Japanese ricers are salvaged.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>>
>> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
>> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
>> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>>
>> try this web site instead-
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>>
>> Per
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
>> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
>> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
>> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
>> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
>> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
>> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>>
>> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>>
>> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
>> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
>> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
>> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
>> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
>> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
>> vehicle-
>>
>> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>>
>> Fondest Regards,
>>
>> H.



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 09:08 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
remember him, Right??) project.

Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
parking lot one day,

http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/

I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
*Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
& welded back togeather.

And, yes, although it doesn't show in the pics it was quite definately
Rusty.

Waiting Patiently,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
>have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
>Japanese ricers are salvaged.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>>
>> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
>> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
>> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>>
>> try this web site instead-
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>>
>> Per
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
>> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
>> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
>> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
>> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
>> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
>> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>>
>> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>>
>> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
>> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
>> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
>> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
>> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
>> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
>> vehicle-
>>
>> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>>
>> Fondest Regards,
>>
>> H.



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 09:08 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
remember him, Right??) project.

Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
parking lot one day,

http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/

I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
*Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
& welded back togeather.

And, yes, although it doesn't show in the pics it was quite definately
Rusty.

Waiting Patiently,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
>have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
>Japanese ricers are salvaged.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>>
>> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
>> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
>> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>>
>> try this web site instead-
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>>
>> Per
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
>> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
>> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
>> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
>> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
>> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
>> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>>
>> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>>
>> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
>> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
>> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
>> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
>> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
>> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
>> vehicle-
>>
>> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>>
>> Fondest Regards,
>>
>> H.



Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 09:35 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
> previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
> remember him, Right??) project.
>
> Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
> parking lot one day,
>
> http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/
>
> I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
> funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
> *Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
> & welded back togeather.


They run tanks over them now.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 09:35 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
> previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
> remember him, Right??) project.
>
> Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
> parking lot one day,
>
> http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/
>
> I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
> funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
> *Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
> & welded back togeather.


They run tanks over them now.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 09:35 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
> previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
> remember him, Right??) project.
>
> Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
> parking lot one day,
>
> http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/
>
> I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
> funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
> *Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
> & welded back togeather.


They run tanks over them now.



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