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Bret Ludwig 12-09-2005 09:19 PM

M151 MUTT replica kit
 
I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-09-2005 10:58 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
There you go trolling again!
The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:
http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...ry/muttdrw.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
> MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
> tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-09-2005 10:58 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
There you go trolling again!
The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:
http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...ry/muttdrw.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
> MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
> tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-09-2005 10:58 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
There you go trolling again!
The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:
http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...ry/muttdrw.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
> MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
> tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


Bret Ludwig 12-09-2005 11:54 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> There you go trolling again!
> The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
> doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:

<<snip>>

> > I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
> > MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
> > tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


Coming from a Minn-Kota like you....

The operative word is "replica". It apparently has a frame and a
fiberglass body.


Bret Ludwig 12-09-2005 11:54 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> There you go trolling again!
> The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
> doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:

<<snip>>

> > I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
> > MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
> > tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


Coming from a Minn-Kota like you....

The operative word is "replica". It apparently has a frame and a
fiberglass body.


Bret Ludwig 12-09-2005 11:54 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> There you go trolling again!
> The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
> doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:

<<snip>>

> > I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
> > MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
> > tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?


Coming from a Minn-Kota like you....

The operative word is "replica". It apparently has a frame and a
fiberglass body.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-10-2005 01:16 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Then it wouldn't be a "replica", would it???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Coming from a Minn-Kota like you....
>
> The operative word is "replica". It apparently has a frame and a
> fiberglass body.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-10-2005 01:16 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Then it wouldn't be a "replica", would it???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Coming from a Minn-Kota like you....
>
> The operative word is "replica". It apparently has a frame and a
> fiberglass body.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-10-2005 01:16 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Then it wouldn't be a "replica", would it???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Coming from a Minn-Kota like you....
>
> The operative word is "replica". It apparently has a frame and a
> fiberglass body.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 01:53 AM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Then it wouldn't be a "replica", would it???????



Well yes, it would. Most replica cars have different materials and
structures than the cars they replicate. Such as the Corvair powered
Cords and Shay Model A's .


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 01:53 AM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Then it wouldn't be a "replica", would it???????



Well yes, it would. Most replica cars have different materials and
structures than the cars they replicate. Such as the Corvair powered
Cords and Shay Model A's .


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 01:53 AM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Then it wouldn't be a "replica", would it???????



Well yes, it would. Most replica cars have different materials and
structures than the cars they replicate. Such as the Corvair powered
Cords and Shay Model A's .


Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 05:51 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
We've been through this before-

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&

The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).

Howard.

p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
"Real" :). H.


On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:58:48 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> There you go trolling again!
> The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
>doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:
>http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...ry/muttdrw.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
>> MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
>> tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 05:51 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
We've been through this before-

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&

The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).

Howard.

p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
"Real" :). H.


On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:58:48 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> There you go trolling again!
> The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
>doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:
>http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...ry/muttdrw.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
>> MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
>> tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 05:51 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
We've been through this before-

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&

The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).

Howard.

p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
"Real" :). H.


On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:58:48 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> There you go trolling again!
> The Mutt was built on an aluminum unitized body which of course
>doesn't have a frame to bolt Real springs to:
>http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military...ry/muttdrw.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I heard there was a kit to build a replica of the Vietnam era M151
>> MUTT but with straight axles and common mechanicals (and much less
>> tendency to flip). Anyone know about it?



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 06:16 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Howard,
Apparently your senility wouldn't allow your to remember that upon
research I corrected myself, saying they were all made from an aluminum
unitized body: http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military/m151/m151.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> We've been through this before-
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&
>
> The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
> even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).
>
> Howard.
>
> p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
> "Real" :). H


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 06:16 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Howard,
Apparently your senility wouldn't allow your to remember that upon
research I corrected myself, saying they were all made from an aluminum
unitized body: http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military/m151/m151.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> We've been through this before-
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&
>
> The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
> even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).
>
> Howard.
>
> p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
> "Real" :). H


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 06:16 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Howard,
Apparently your senility wouldn't allow your to remember that upon
research I corrected myself, saying they were all made from an aluminum
unitized body: http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military/m151/m151.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> We've been through this before-
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&
>
> The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
> even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).
>
> Howard.
>
> p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
> "Real" :). H


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 06:24 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
I know.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 06:24 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
I know.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 06:24 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
I know.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 06:57 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
derby entry. and hardtail.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> I know.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 06:57 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
derby entry. and hardtail.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> I know.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 06:57 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
derby entry. and hardtail.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> I know.


Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 07:34 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.

My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
exceptions, buit with steel bodies.

try this web site instead-

http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/


Per
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-

http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html

The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
vehicle-

http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html



Fondest Regards,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:16:05 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Howard,
> Apparently your senility wouldn't allow your to remember that upon
>research I corrected myself, saying they were all made from an aluminum
>unitized body: http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military/m151/m151.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> We've been through this before-
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&
>>
>> The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
>> even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).
>>
>> Howard.
>>
>> p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
>> "Real" :). H



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 07:34 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.

My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
exceptions, buit with steel bodies.

try this web site instead-

http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/


Per
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-

http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html

The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
vehicle-

http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html



Fondest Regards,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:16:05 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Howard,
> Apparently your senility wouldn't allow your to remember that upon
>research I corrected myself, saying they were all made from an aluminum
>unitized body: http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military/m151/m151.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> We've been through this before-
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&
>>
>> The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
>> even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).
>>
>> Howard.
>>
>> p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
>> "Real" :). H



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 07:34 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.

My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
exceptions, buit with steel bodies.

try this web site instead-

http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/


Per
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-

http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html

The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
vehicle-

http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html



Fondest Regards,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:16:05 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Howard,
> Apparently your senility wouldn't allow your to remember that upon
>research I corrected myself, saying they were all made from an aluminum
>unitized body: http://www.m151.uklinux.net/military/m151/m151.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> We've been through this before-
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...teel+titanium&
>>
>> The vast majority of 151s were built outta steel, not aluminum (or
>> even, dare I say it- Titanium) :).
>>
>> Howard.
>>
>> p.s.- my old Duster was unibody & IT had springs, they were even
>> "Real" :). H



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 07:47 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
Japanese ricers are salvaged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>
> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>
> try this web site instead-
>
> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>
> Per
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>
> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
> vehicle-
>
> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>
> Fondest Regards,
>
> H.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 07:47 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
Japanese ricers are salvaged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>
> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>
> try this web site instead-
>
> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>
> Per
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>
> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
> vehicle-
>
> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>
> Fondest Regards,
>
> H.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-11-2005 07:47 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
Japanese ricers are salvaged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>
> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>
> try this web site instead-
>
> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>
> Per
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>
> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
> vehicle-
>
> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>
> Fondest Regards,
>
> H.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 08:03 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
> derby entry. and hardtail.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> > I know.


Well, Citroens, at least D-series models, didn't. They had hydraulic
spheres that acted as spring and damper ('shock absorber'). Rolls Royce
used them as well but only as a "helper" in addition to conventional
springs. A Rolls weighs almost three times what a Citroen does.

A few Brit cars used a poor-man's version called Hydrolastic. One Indy
car in '64 or '65 or thereabouts used it and was called the MG Liquid
Suspension Special. It had an Offenheuser for power.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 08:03 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
> derby entry. and hardtail.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> > I know.


Well, Citroens, at least D-series models, didn't. They had hydraulic
spheres that acted as spring and damper ('shock absorber'). Rolls Royce
used them as well but only as a "helper" in addition to conventional
springs. A Rolls weighs almost three times what a Citroen does.

A few Brit cars used a poor-man's version called Hydrolastic. One Indy
car in '64 or '65 or thereabouts used it and was called the MG Liquid
Suspension Special. It had an Offenheuser for power.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 08:03 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> And I thought all vehicles have springs, well except my soapbox
> derby entry. and hardtail.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Many unibody cars have springs. All of them except Citroens, as far as
> > I know.


Well, Citroens, at least D-series models, didn't. They had hydraulic
spheres that acted as spring and damper ('shock absorber'). Rolls Royce
used them as well but only as a "helper" in addition to conventional
springs. A Rolls weighs almost three times what a Citroen does.

A few Brit cars used a poor-man's version called Hydrolastic. One Indy
car in '64 or '65 or thereabouts used it and was called the MG Liquid
Suspension Special. It had an Offenheuser for power.


Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 09:08 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
remember him, Right??) project.

Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
parking lot one day,

http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/

I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
*Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
& welded back togeather.

And, yes, although it doesn't show in the pics it was quite definately
Rusty.

Waiting Patiently,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
>have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
>Japanese ricers are salvaged.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>>
>> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
>> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
>> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>>
>> try this web site instead-
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>>
>> Per
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
>> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
>> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
>> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
>> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
>> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
>> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>>
>> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>>
>> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
>> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
>> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
>> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
>> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
>> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
>> vehicle-
>>
>> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>>
>> Fondest Regards,
>>
>> H.



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 09:08 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
remember him, Right??) project.

Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
parking lot one day,

http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/

I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
*Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
& welded back togeather.

And, yes, although it doesn't show in the pics it was quite definately
Rusty.

Waiting Patiently,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
>have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
>Japanese ricers are salvaged.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>>
>> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
>> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
>> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>>
>> try this web site instead-
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>>
>> Per
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
>> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
>> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
>> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
>> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
>> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
>> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>>
>> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>>
>> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
>> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
>> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
>> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
>> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
>> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
>> vehicle-
>>
>> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>>
>> Fondest Regards,
>>
>> H.



Howard Eisenhauer 12-11-2005 09:08 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 
Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
remember him, Right??) project.

Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
parking lot one day,

http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/

I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
*Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
& welded back togeather.

And, yes, although it doesn't show in the pics it was quite definately
Rusty.

Waiting Patiently,

H.


On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> If their bodies were made of steel, cutting them in half wouldn't
>have been a problem, they'd just weld the ends back together as most
>Japanese ricers are salvaged.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>>
>> My Senility?? Darn, I had forgotten all 'bout that :(.
>>
>> My pre-mature, er, um, whatever we were talking about not-withstanding
>> a bit of research reveals that M151 Mutts were, with very few
>> exceptions, buit with steel bodies.
>>
>> try this web site instead-
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/fordm151/
>>
>> Per
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...2?viscount=100
>> Ford didn't go with the aluminium body due to problems with stress
>> cracking. It also sems there would have been corrosion problems
>> between the aluminium & steel components. as all the the MUTTS I've
>> seen have been rusted, not corroded I stand by my assertation that
>> M151s awere, for all practicle intents & purposes, Steel, nor
>> Aluminium. For some pictures of rather rusty MUTTS I'd suggest-
>>
>> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html
>>
>> The exceptions may have been some speacial "airbourne" models which
>> may or may not have seen actual service. I have not been able to find
>> any references on the web (for what THATS worth) that these things
>> ever actually existed. Per our last, er, um, discussion + input from
>> my wife's second cousin's husband (you remember him, Right??)
>> on the the subject these rumours may be refering to the Mighty Mite
>> vehicle-
>>
>> http://www.4wdonline.com/Mil/M422/MightyMite.html
>>
>> Fondest Regards,
>>
>> H.



Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 09:35 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
> previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
> remember him, Right??) project.
>
> Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
> parking lot one day,
>
> http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/
>
> I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
> funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
> *Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
> & welded back togeather.


They run tanks over them now.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 09:35 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
> previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
> remember him, Right??) project.
>
> Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
> parking lot one day,
>
> http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/
>
> I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
> funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
> *Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
> & welded back togeather.


They run tanks over them now.


Bret Ludwig 12-11-2005 09:35 PM

Re: M151 MUTT replica kit
 

Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> Umm, welding them back togeather *is* what they do, as per our
> previous missives mentioning my wife's second cousin's husband's (you
> remember him, Right??) project.
>
> Here's some documentary evidence by way of a MUTT I found sitting in a
> parking lot one day,
>
> http://www.tantel.ca/Images/M151%20MUTT%20PICS/
>
> I'd like to bring to your attention pics 3 & 4 in particular, those
> funny looking verticle bumps on the rockers is where it was cut into
> *Three* sections (like in this link from the last message
> http://www.sphynx.com/mitymite/m151half.html: )
> & welded back togeather.


They run tanks over them now.



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