On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:40:13 GMT, twaldron
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:

>- Lockers physically LOCK both axles (both sides of the differential) so
>both wheels spin equally (both become "drive" wheels). You do this with
>the switch on the dash. There is a switch position for just the rear, or
>the rear and front. DO NOT USE THESE UNLESS YOU ARE OFFROAD!!! Something
>WILL break.
SNIP
>Understand the lockers before you use them. There was a guy (different
>forum, I believe) who had his lockers engaged, offroad. He was doing a 3
>point turn on the trail and broke something. Now, if you don't need the
>lockers, leave them disengaged! Heavy, tight turning is the most
>problematic for your locker setup. The guy got his Rubi fixed under
>warranty, went out and DID THE SAME THING!! Guess what? It broke again
>and he was pissed because the dealer wouldn't fix it.

Another way to say this is: don't use the lockers under high traction
situations where the tires cannot easily slip to remove drivetrain
stresses. Oversized tires with agressive tread makes this even more
important.

3 point turns take some forethought since a locker won't disengage
under load - you have to give it a little time to unlock before
initiating the turn. Maybe even back down the trail a bit to get it to
unlock before turning.

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

 

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:40:13 GMT, twaldron
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:

>- Lockers physically LOCK both axles (both sides of the differential) so
>both wheels spin equally (both become "drive" wheels). You do this with
>the switch on the dash. There is a switch position for just the rear, or
>the rear and front. DO NOT USE THESE UNLESS YOU ARE OFFROAD!!! Something
>WILL break.
SNIP
>Understand the lockers before you use them. There was a guy (different
>forum, I believe) who had his lockers engaged, offroad. He was doing a 3
>point turn on the trail and broke something. Now, if you don't need the
>lockers, leave them disengaged! Heavy, tight turning is the most
>problematic for your locker setup. The guy got his Rubi fixed under
>warranty, went out and DID THE SAME THING!! Guess what? It broke again
>and he was pissed because the dealer wouldn't fix it.

Another way to say this is: don't use the lockers under high traction
situations where the tires cannot easily slip to remove drivetrain
stresses. Oversized tires with agressive tread makes this even more
important.

3 point turns take some forethought since a locker won't disengage
under load - you have to give it a little time to unlock before
initiating the turn. Maybe even back down the trail a bit to get it to
unlock before turning.

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

 

whoops.. yer right ! damn, now I ~have~ to read the manual again ; )

dave
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:O2Qnb.431$Dj1.114@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of the things that might be confusing you is that the switch is
> labeled "AXLE LOCK" (lockers), not 'Trac-Lock'. There is no switch for
> TRAC-LOCK.
>
> dave wrote:
> > Kevin.
> > I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are
multiple
> > settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> > manually set then ?
> >
> > ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> > god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> > working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> > everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> > offroading experience.
> >
> > I will try and find a club locally..
> >
> > thx!
> > dave
> >
> > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> >
> >>The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> >>traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> >>turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> >
> > or
> >
> >>club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> >>KH
> >>
> >>"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> >>news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com. ..
> >>
> >>>I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> >>>probably not closely enough.
> >>>
> >>>A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> >>
> >>Rubi..
> >>
> >>>could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> >>>
> >>>1. what are lockers ?
> >>>2. how are they set on my Rubi
> >>>
> >>>I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> >
> > reading
> >
> >>>anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> >>>
> >>>davez
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

whoops.. yer right ! damn, now I ~have~ to read the manual again ; )

dave
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:O2Qnb.431$Dj1.114@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of the things that might be confusing you is that the switch is
> labeled "AXLE LOCK" (lockers), not 'Trac-Lock'. There is no switch for
> TRAC-LOCK.
>
> dave wrote:
> > Kevin.
> > I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are
multiple
> > settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> > manually set then ?
> >
> > ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> > god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> > working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> > everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> > offroading experience.
> >
> > I will try and find a club locally..
> >
> > thx!
> > dave
> >
> > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> >
> >>The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> >>traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> >>turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> >
> > or
> >
> >>club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> >>KH
> >>
> >>"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> >>news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com. ..
> >>
> >>>I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> >>>probably not closely enough.
> >>>
> >>>A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> >>
> >>Rubi..
> >>
> >>>could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> >>>
> >>>1. what are lockers ?
> >>>2. how are they set on my Rubi
> >>>
> >>>I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> >
> > reading
> >
> >>>anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> >>>
> >>>davez
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

whoops.. yer right ! damn, now I ~have~ to read the manual again ; )

dave
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:O2Qnb.431$Dj1.114@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of the things that might be confusing you is that the switch is
> labeled "AXLE LOCK" (lockers), not 'Trac-Lock'. There is no switch for
> TRAC-LOCK.
>
> dave wrote:
> > Kevin.
> > I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are
multiple
> > settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> > manually set then ?
> >
> > ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> > god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> > working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> > everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> > offroading experience.
> >
> > I will try and find a club locally..
> >
> > thx!
> > dave
> >
> > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> >
> >>The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> >>traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> >>turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> >
> > or
> >
> >>club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> >>KH
> >>
> >>"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> >>news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com. ..
> >>
> >>>I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> >>>probably not closely enough.
> >>>
> >>>A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> >>
> >>Rubi..
> >>
> >>>could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> >>>
> >>>1. what are lockers ?
> >>>2. how are they set on my Rubi
> >>>
> >>>I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> >
> > reading
> >
> >>>anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> >>>
> >>>davez
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bnol0v0det@enews3.newsguy.com...
> The Rubicon's rear diff is a limited slip (but not Trac Loc) in it's
> unlocked state. Jeep made a good decision to inhibit locker engagement in
2
> and 4wd hi, which is where inadvertent (or even intentional) on-road
> engagement would be unsafe. One of the Jeep mags had an article on how to
> defeat the inhibit circuit so they could be engaged in 2 & 4wd hi range,
> probably not a good idea for the general public.
>


I can see the need to inhibit the locker selection in 2WD, but not in 4HI.
There are many occasions where the Detroit Locker in my CJ is very useful in
4HI. I think the engineers would have better served its customers by making
the Lockers work in 4WD, regardless of HI or LO range. They could/should
disengage the lockers automatically by shifting out of 4WD.

 

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bnol0v0det@enews3.newsguy.com...
> The Rubicon's rear diff is a limited slip (but not Trac Loc) in it's
> unlocked state. Jeep made a good decision to inhibit locker engagement in
2
> and 4wd hi, which is where inadvertent (or even intentional) on-road
> engagement would be unsafe. One of the Jeep mags had an article on how to
> defeat the inhibit circuit so they could be engaged in 2 & 4wd hi range,
> probably not a good idea for the general public.
>


I can see the need to inhibit the locker selection in 2WD, but not in 4HI.
There are many occasions where the Detroit Locker in my CJ is very useful in
4HI. I think the engineers would have better served its customers by making
the Lockers work in 4WD, regardless of HI or LO range. They could/should
disengage the lockers automatically by shifting out of 4WD.

 

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bnol0v0det@enews3.newsguy.com...
> The Rubicon's rear diff is a limited slip (but not Trac Loc) in it's
> unlocked state. Jeep made a good decision to inhibit locker engagement in
2
> and 4wd hi, which is where inadvertent (or even intentional) on-road
> engagement would be unsafe. One of the Jeep mags had an article on how to
> defeat the inhibit circuit so they could be engaged in 2 & 4wd hi range,
> probably not a good idea for the general public.
>


I can see the need to inhibit the locker selection in 2WD, but not in 4HI.
There are many occasions where the Detroit Locker in my CJ is very useful in
4HI. I think the engineers would have better served its customers by making
the Lockers work in 4WD, regardless of HI or LO range. They could/should
disengage the lockers automatically by shifting out of 4WD.

 

Like, how to get home?
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twaldron wrote:
>
> Yes, if you're using your lockers on the hwy, you DO have other
> problems. :)

 

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twaldron wrote:
>
> Yes, if you're using your lockers on the hwy, you DO have other
> problems. :)