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twaldron wrote:
>
> Yes, if you're using your lockers on the hwy, you DO have other
> problems. :)

Matt Macchiarolo

In article <vpvu7a4kghoif0@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:

>I think the engineers would have better served its customers by making
>the Lockers work in 4WD, regardless of HI or LO range. They could/should
>disengage the lockers automatically by shifting out of 4WD.
>

Engineers didn't make the decision, attorneys did, to avoid the liability of
the newbie who engages his lockers in 4HI on a snowcovered road and then loses
control and lands in a ditch.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Matt Macchiarolo

In article <vpvu7a4kghoif0@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:

>I think the engineers would have better served its customers by making
>the Lockers work in 4WD, regardless of HI or LO range. They could/should
>disengage the lockers automatically by shifting out of 4WD.
>

Engineers didn't make the decision, attorneys did, to avoid the liability of
the newbie who engages his lockers in 4HI on a snowcovered road and then loses
control and lands in a ditch.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Matt Macchiarolo

In article <vpvu7a4kghoif0@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:

>I think the engineers would have better served its customers by making
>the Lockers work in 4WD, regardless of HI or LO range. They could/should
>disengage the lockers automatically by shifting out of 4WD.
>

Engineers didn't make the decision, attorneys did, to avoid the liability of
the newbie who engages his lockers in 4HI on a snowcovered road and then loses
control and lands in a ditch.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Gerald G. McGeorge

As one with a rear Detroit, I do not advise the unwary to go anywhere near
such a device for full time on-road use. I know what it's going to do and
when, the uninitiated face a wild ride, for sure!

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:YvRnb.487$Dj1.134@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Yes, if you're using your lockers on the hwy, you DO have other
> problems. :)
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> > Technically yes, but its just a minor rewiring behind the dash. Can be
done in
> > such a way that it is easily reversable. Break your locker while on the
> > highway, however, and you may have a problem...
> >
> > In article <UaRnb.450$Dj1.13@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
> > <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
> >
> >
> >>Also will void your warranty.
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The Rubicon's rear diff is a limited slip (but not Trac Loc) in it's
> >>>unlocked state. Jeep made a good decision to inhibit locker engagement
in 2
> >>>and 4wd hi, which is where inadvertent (or even intentional) on-road
> >>>engagement would be unsafe. One of the Jeep mags had an article on how
to
> >>>defeat the inhibit circuit so they could be engaged in 2 & 4wd hi
range,
> >>>probably not a good idea for the general public.
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

As one with a rear Detroit, I do not advise the unwary to go anywhere near
such a device for full time on-road use. I know what it's going to do and
when, the uninitiated face a wild ride, for sure!

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:YvRnb.487$Dj1.134@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Yes, if you're using your lockers on the hwy, you DO have other
> problems. :)
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> > Technically yes, but its just a minor rewiring behind the dash. Can be
done in
> > such a way that it is easily reversable. Break your locker while on the
> > highway, however, and you may have a problem...
> >
> > In article <UaRnb.450$Dj1.13@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
> > <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
> >
> >
> >>Also will void your warranty.
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The Rubicon's rear diff is a limited slip (but not Trac Loc) in it's
> >>>unlocked state. Jeep made a good decision to inhibit locker engagement
in 2
> >>>and 4wd hi, which is where inadvertent (or even intentional) on-road
> >>>engagement would be unsafe. One of the Jeep mags had an article on how
to
> >>>defeat the inhibit circuit so they could be engaged in 2 & 4wd hi
range,
> >>>probably not a good idea for the general public.
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

As one with a rear Detroit, I do not advise the unwary to go anywhere near
such a device for full time on-road use. I know what it's going to do and
when, the uninitiated face a wild ride, for sure!

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:YvRnb.487$Dj1.134@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Yes, if you're using your lockers on the hwy, you DO have other
> problems. :)
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> > Technically yes, but its just a minor rewiring behind the dash. Can be
done in
> > such a way that it is easily reversable. Break your locker while on the
> > highway, however, and you may have a problem...
> >
> > In article <UaRnb.450$Dj1.13@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
> > <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
> >
> >
> >>Also will void your warranty.
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The Rubicon's rear diff is a limited slip (but not Trac Loc) in it's
> >>>unlocked state. Jeep made a good decision to inhibit locker engagement
in 2
> >>>and 4wd hi, which is where inadvertent (or even intentional) on-road
> >>>engagement would be unsafe. One of the Jeep mags had an article on how
to
> >>>defeat the inhibit circuit so they could be engaged in 2 & 4wd hi
range,
> >>>probably not a good idea for the general public.
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Gerald G. McGeorge

I have an ARB in the front on my YJ, it can take awhile to unlock and can be
a major PITA on tight trails.

"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:aapvpvcamk3v86sis8fuubeb0t1crrhtav@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:40:13 GMT, twaldron
> <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >- Lockers physically LOCK both axles (both sides of the differential) so
> >both wheels spin equally (both become "drive" wheels). You do this with
> >the switch on the dash. There is a switch position for just the rear, or
> >the rear and front. DO NOT USE THESE UNLESS YOU ARE OFFROAD!!! Something
> >WILL break.
> SNIP
> >Understand the lockers before you use them. There was a guy (different
> >forum, I believe) who had his lockers engaged, offroad. He was doing a 3
> >point turn on the trail and broke something. Now, if you don't need the
> >lockers, leave them disengaged! Heavy, tight turning is the most
> >problematic for your locker setup. The guy got his Rubi fixed under
> >warranty, went out and DID THE SAME THING!! Guess what? It broke again
> >and he was pissed because the dealer wouldn't fix it.
>
> Another way to say this is: don't use the lockers under high traction
> situations where the tires cannot easily slip to remove drivetrain
> stresses. Oversized tires with agressive tread makes this even more
> important.
>
> 3 point turns take some forethought since a locker won't disengage
> under load - you have to give it a little time to unlock before
> initiating the turn. Maybe even back down the trail a bit to get it to
> unlock before turning.
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA

Gerald G. McGeorge

I have an ARB in the front on my YJ, it can take awhile to unlock and can be
a major PITA on tight trails.

"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:aapvpvcamk3v86sis8fuubeb0t1crrhtav@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:40:13 GMT, twaldron
> <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >- Lockers physically LOCK both axles (both sides of the differential) so
> >both wheels spin equally (both become "drive" wheels). You do this with
> >the switch on the dash. There is a switch position for just the rear, or
> >the rear and front. DO NOT USE THESE UNLESS YOU ARE OFFROAD!!! Something
> >WILL break.
> SNIP
> >Understand the lockers before you use them. There was a guy (different
> >forum, I believe) who had his lockers engaged, offroad. He was doing a 3
> >point turn on the trail and broke something. Now, if you don't need the
> >lockers, leave them disengaged! Heavy, tight turning is the most
> >problematic for your locker setup. The guy got his Rubi fixed under
> >warranty, went out and DID THE SAME THING!! Guess what? It broke again
> >and he was pissed because the dealer wouldn't fix it.
>
> Another way to say this is: don't use the lockers under high traction
> situations where the tires cannot easily slip to remove drivetrain
> stresses. Oversized tires with agressive tread makes this even more
> important.
>
> 3 point turns take some forethought since a locker won't disengage
> under load - you have to give it a little time to unlock before
> initiating the turn. Maybe even back down the trail a bit to get it to
> unlock before turning.
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA

Gerald G. McGeorge

I have an ARB in the front on my YJ, it can take awhile to unlock and can be
a major PITA on tight trails.

"John Davies" <johnedavies@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:aapvpvcamk3v86sis8fuubeb0t1crrhtav@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:40:13 GMT, twaldron
> <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >- Lockers physically LOCK both axles (both sides of the differential) so
> >both wheels spin equally (both become "drive" wheels). You do this with
> >the switch on the dash. There is a switch position for just the rear, or
> >the rear and front. DO NOT USE THESE UNLESS YOU ARE OFFROAD!!! Something
> >WILL break.
> SNIP
> >Understand the lockers before you use them. There was a guy (different
> >forum, I believe) who had his lockers engaged, offroad. He was doing a 3
> >point turn on the trail and broke something. Now, if you don't need the
> >lockers, leave them disengaged! Heavy, tight turning is the most
> >problematic for your locker setup. The guy got his Rubi fixed under
> >warranty, went out and DID THE SAME THING!! Guess what? It broke again
> >and he was pissed because the dealer wouldn't fix it.
>
> Another way to say this is: don't use the lockers under high traction
> situations where the tires cannot easily slip to remove drivetrain
> stresses. Oversized tires with agressive tread makes this even more
> important.
>
> 3 point turns take some forethought since a locker won't disengage
> under load - you have to give it a little time to unlock before
> initiating the turn. Maybe even back down the trail a bit to get it to
> unlock before turning.
>
> John Davies
> Spokane WA USA