Dave, learn to use your vehicle without the lockers for a while. You will
learn the advantages and disadvantages of lockers (yes, there are
disadvantages in some conditions). Get hooked up with a club that is family
oriented and tolerant of new guys (some aren't). Have fun and don't sweat
the little stuff. :-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:1Zynb.260854$oO4.2808324@news.easynews.com...
> Kevin.
> I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are multiple
> settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> manually set then ?
>
> ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> offroading experience.
>
> I will try and find a club locally..
>
> thx!
> dave
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> > The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> > traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> > turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> or
> > club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> > KH
> >
> > "dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> > news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> > > I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> > > probably not closely enough.
> > >
> > > A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> > Rubi..
> > >
> > > could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> > >
> > > 1. what are lockers ?
> > > 2. how are they set on my Rubi
> > >
> > > I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> reading
> > > anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> > >
> > > davez
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Dave, learn to use your vehicle without the lockers for a while. You will
learn the advantages and disadvantages of lockers (yes, there are
disadvantages in some conditions). Get hooked up with a club that is family
oriented and tolerant of new guys (some aren't). Have fun and don't sweat
the little stuff. :-)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:1Zynb.260854$oO4.2808324@news.easynews.com...
> Kevin.
> I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are multiple
> settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> manually set then ?
>
> ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> offroading experience.
>
> I will try and find a club locally..
>
> thx!
> dave
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> > The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> > traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> > turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> or
> > club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> > KH
> >
> > "dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> > news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> > > I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> > > probably not closely enough.
> > >
> > > A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> > Rubi..
> > >
> > > could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> > >
> > > 1. what are lockers ?
> > > 2. how are they set on my Rubi
> > >
> > > I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> reading
> > > anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> > >
> > > davez
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Your rear differential is limited slip by default. that mode is for most all
driving. When you press the button it locks the diff and makes it a "no
slip" No slip or "locked" is for extreme traction needs.
KH

"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:1Zynb.260854$oO4.2808324@news.easynews.com...
> Kevin.
> I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are multiple
> settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> manually set then ?
>
> ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> offroading experience.
>
> I will try and find a club locally..
>
> thx!
> dave
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> > The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> > traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> > turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> or
> > club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> > KH
> >
> > "dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> > news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> > > I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> > > probably not closely enough.
> > >
> > > A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> > Rubi..
> > >
> > > could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> > >
> > > 1. what are lockers ?
> > > 2. how are they set on my Rubi
> > >
> > > I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> reading
> > > anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> > >
> > > davez
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Your rear differential is limited slip by default. that mode is for most all
driving. When you press the button it locks the diff and makes it a "no
slip" No slip or "locked" is for extreme traction needs.
KH

"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:1Zynb.260854$oO4.2808324@news.easynews.com...
> Kevin.
> I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are multiple
> settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> manually set then ?
>
> ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> offroading experience.
>
> I will try and find a club locally..
>
> thx!
> dave
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> > The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> > traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> > turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> or
> > club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> > KH
> >
> > "dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> > news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> > > I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> > > probably not closely enough.
> > >
> > > A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> > Rubi..
> > >
> > > could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> > >
> > > 1. what are lockers ?
> > > 2. how are they set on my Rubi
> > >
> > > I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> reading
> > > anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> > >
> > > davez
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Your rear differential is limited slip by default. that mode is for most all
driving. When you press the button it locks the diff and makes it a "no
slip" No slip or "locked" is for extreme traction needs.
KH

"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:1Zynb.260854$oO4.2808324@news.easynews.com...
> Kevin.
> I do have the switch that is labeled trac lock.. and there are multiple
> settings for that but I was told there were also "lockers" are these
> manually set then ?
>
> ..and in no way will ever think just because I have a Rubi I am a "trail
> god" now. (haha) I do intend on starting out on basic level trails and
> working my way up. I don't think I will ever want to climb rocks but
> everything else will be cool. This is my first Jeep but not my first
> offroading experience.
>
> I will try and find a club locally..
>
> thx!
> dave
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2uynb.122357$gv5.33301@fed1read05...
> > The lockers are for off road use. If you know what limited slip is or
Posi
> > traction then you will figure out what lockers are. Your lockers can be
> > turned off and on. Do you plan on taking this Rubi off road? Join a
group
> or
> > club so you can learn from some experienced people. Dont try it alone.
> > KH
> >
> > "dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
> > news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> > > I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> > > probably not closely enough.
> > >
> > > A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
> > Rubi..
> > >
> > > could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
> > >
> > > 1. what are lockers ?
> > > 2. how are they set on my Rubi
> > >
> > > I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember
> reading
> > > anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
> > >
> > > davez
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Your new Rubicon has what we call Manual Lockers. There is another type
called an Automatic Locker.

A "normal" differential will deliver equal torque (power) to each of the
tires on the axle, UNTIL one of them begins to spin. It the differential is
an Open Diff, then the spinning tire will get all of the power that is
delivered from themotor, if the differential is a Limited Slip variety, then
the spinning wheel will get less of the available torque, and the tire that
still has grip will get more. If the differential is a locking differential,
then both tires on the axle will get equal torque under any and all
ocnditions, not matter what. If one tire has lost traction, the other tire
will still get its normal torque and speed from the motor. The obvious
advantage is that the vehicle will continue moving even if only one tire has
traction. (This is a theoretical possibility, reality is quite different
most of the time.)

Whether a locker is an automatic or manual one is a bit of a misnomer, the
terms automatic and manual refver to the locker's ability to unlock. Since
the axle is locked from left to right at the differential in the middle, and
the vehicle is going around a corner, the tires have to be able to turn at
different speeds to cover different amounts of ground in the same amount of
time, and the locked axles can't do this. The tires have to slip on the
ground in order to avoid building up stresses that can cause damage, or the
locker has to momentarily unlock itself, or the driver has to switch it off.
Manual lockers have an advantage on the trail because there are times when
auto locker gets in the way, and if you could turn it off for a few minutes,
then life would be vastly better, but if you forget the locker is ON, and
you get onto a surface where the tires can't slip, then the stresses can
cause damage to the differential(s).

You have Manual Lockers on your Rubicon. They are normally set to OFF, and
should remain OFF until you anticipate a need to turn them ON. If you plan
ahead and turn them ON before you actually need them, you should be better
off most of the time. If you wait until you are stuck before turning the
lockers ON, you might still be stuck.




"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> probably not closely enough.
>
> A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
Rubi..
>
> could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
>
> 1. what are lockers ?
> 2. how are they set on my Rubi
>
> I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember reading
> anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
>
> davez
>
>

 

Your new Rubicon has what we call Manual Lockers. There is another type
called an Automatic Locker.

A "normal" differential will deliver equal torque (power) to each of the
tires on the axle, UNTIL one of them begins to spin. It the differential is
an Open Diff, then the spinning tire will get all of the power that is
delivered from themotor, if the differential is a Limited Slip variety, then
the spinning wheel will get less of the available torque, and the tire that
still has grip will get more. If the differential is a locking differential,
then both tires on the axle will get equal torque under any and all
ocnditions, not matter what. If one tire has lost traction, the other tire
will still get its normal torque and speed from the motor. The obvious
advantage is that the vehicle will continue moving even if only one tire has
traction. (This is a theoretical possibility, reality is quite different
most of the time.)

Whether a locker is an automatic or manual one is a bit of a misnomer, the
terms automatic and manual refver to the locker's ability to unlock. Since
the axle is locked from left to right at the differential in the middle, and
the vehicle is going around a corner, the tires have to be able to turn at
different speeds to cover different amounts of ground in the same amount of
time, and the locked axles can't do this. The tires have to slip on the
ground in order to avoid building up stresses that can cause damage, or the
locker has to momentarily unlock itself, or the driver has to switch it off.
Manual lockers have an advantage on the trail because there are times when
auto locker gets in the way, and if you could turn it off for a few minutes,
then life would be vastly better, but if you forget the locker is ON, and
you get onto a surface where the tires can't slip, then the stresses can
cause damage to the differential(s).

You have Manual Lockers on your Rubicon. They are normally set to OFF, and
should remain OFF until you anticipate a need to turn them ON. If you plan
ahead and turn them ON before you actually need them, you should be better
off most of the time. If you wait until you are stuck before turning the
lockers ON, you might still be stuck.




"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> probably not closely enough.
>
> A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
Rubi..
>
> could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
>
> 1. what are lockers ?
> 2. how are they set on my Rubi
>
> I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember reading
> anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
>
> davez
>
>

 

Your new Rubicon has what we call Manual Lockers. There is another type
called an Automatic Locker.

A "normal" differential will deliver equal torque (power) to each of the
tires on the axle, UNTIL one of them begins to spin. It the differential is
an Open Diff, then the spinning tire will get all of the power that is
delivered from themotor, if the differential is a Limited Slip variety, then
the spinning wheel will get less of the available torque, and the tire that
still has grip will get more. If the differential is a locking differential,
then both tires on the axle will get equal torque under any and all
ocnditions, not matter what. If one tire has lost traction, the other tire
will still get its normal torque and speed from the motor. The obvious
advantage is that the vehicle will continue moving even if only one tire has
traction. (This is a theoretical possibility, reality is quite different
most of the time.)

Whether a locker is an automatic or manual one is a bit of a misnomer, the
terms automatic and manual refver to the locker's ability to unlock. Since
the axle is locked from left to right at the differential in the middle, and
the vehicle is going around a corner, the tires have to be able to turn at
different speeds to cover different amounts of ground in the same amount of
time, and the locked axles can't do this. The tires have to slip on the
ground in order to avoid building up stresses that can cause damage, or the
locker has to momentarily unlock itself, or the driver has to switch it off.
Manual lockers have an advantage on the trail because there are times when
auto locker gets in the way, and if you could turn it off for a few minutes,
then life would be vastly better, but if you forget the locker is ON, and
you get onto a surface where the tires can't slip, then the stresses can
cause damage to the differential(s).

You have Manual Lockers on your Rubicon. They are normally set to OFF, and
should remain OFF until you anticipate a need to turn them ON. If you plan
ahead and turn them ON before you actually need them, you should be better
off most of the time. If you wait until you are stuck before turning the
lockers ON, you might still be stuck.




"dave" <dzins@dor.state.wi.usMYUGLYSISTER> wrote in message
news:4qynb.3829201$Bf5.520739@news.easynews.com...
> I am still getting used to my Rubi. I have read the manual, although
> probably not closely enough.
>
> A few other Rubi owners have mentioned the lockers that come with the
Rubi..
>
> could you pleaseh help a newbie by answering a few questions ? ...
>
> 1. what are lockers ?
> 2. how are they set on my Rubi
>
> I will reread my manual when I have a chance but I don't remember reading
> anything about "lockers" and how to set them..
>
> davez
>
>

 

Nice job CRWLR. I tried to explain this to him via email but you did a
much better, and more in depth job of explaining the systems to him.
Probably why he decided to re-ask on the NG. :)

CRWLR wrote:

> Your new Rubicon has what we call Manual Lockers. There is another type
> called an Automatic Locker.
>
> A "normal" differential will deliver equal torque (power) to each of the
> tires on the axle, UNTIL one of them begins to spin. It the differential is
> an Open Diff, then the spinning tire will get all of the power that is
> delivered from themotor, if the differential is a Limited Slip variety, then
> the spinning wheel will get less of the available torque, and the tire that
> still has grip will get more. If the differential is a locking differential,
> then both tires on the axle will get equal torque under any and all
> ocnditions, not matter what. If one tire has lost traction, the other tire
> will still get its normal torque and speed from the motor. The obvious
> advantage is that the vehicle will continue moving even if only one tire has
> traction. (This is a theoretical possibility, reality is quite different
> most of the time.)
>
> Whether a locker is an automatic or manual one is a bit of a misnomer, the
> terms automatic and manual refver to the locker's ability to unlock. Since
> the axle is locked from left to right at the differential in the middle, and
> the vehicle is going around a corner, the tires have to be able to turn at
> different speeds to cover different amounts of ground in the same amount of
> time, and the locked axles can't do this. The tires have to slip on the
> ground in order to avoid building up stresses that can cause damage, or the
> locker has to momentarily unlock itself, or the driver has to switch it off.
> Manual lockers have an advantage on the trail because there are times when
> auto locker gets in the way, and if you could turn it off for a few minutes,
> then life would be vastly better, but if you forget the locker is ON, and
> you get onto a surface where the tires can't slip, then the stresses can
> cause damage to the differential(s).
>
> You have Manual Lockers on your Rubicon. They are normally set to OFF, and
> should remain OFF until you anticipate a need to turn them ON. If you plan
> ahead and turn them ON before you actually need them, you should be better
> off most of the time. If you wait until you are stuck before turning the
> lockers ON, you might still be stuck.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Nice job CRWLR. I tried to explain this to him via email but you did a
much better, and more in depth job of explaining the systems to him.
Probably why he decided to re-ask on the NG. :)

CRWLR wrote:

> Your new Rubicon has what we call Manual Lockers. There is another type
> called an Automatic Locker.
>
> A "normal" differential will deliver equal torque (power) to each of the
> tires on the axle, UNTIL one of them begins to spin. It the differential is
> an Open Diff, then the spinning tire will get all of the power that is
> delivered from themotor, if the differential is a Limited Slip variety, then
> the spinning wheel will get less of the available torque, and the tire that
> still has grip will get more. If the differential is a locking differential,
> then both tires on the axle will get equal torque under any and all
> ocnditions, not matter what. If one tire has lost traction, the other tire
> will still get its normal torque and speed from the motor. The obvious
> advantage is that the vehicle will continue moving even if only one tire has
> traction. (This is a theoretical possibility, reality is quite different
> most of the time.)
>
> Whether a locker is an automatic or manual one is a bit of a misnomer, the
> terms automatic and manual refver to the locker's ability to unlock. Since
> the axle is locked from left to right at the differential in the middle, and
> the vehicle is going around a corner, the tires have to be able to turn at
> different speeds to cover different amounts of ground in the same amount of
> time, and the locked axles can't do this. The tires have to slip on the
> ground in order to avoid building up stresses that can cause damage, or the
> locker has to momentarily unlock itself, or the driver has to switch it off.
> Manual lockers have an advantage on the trail because there are times when
> auto locker gets in the way, and if you could turn it off for a few minutes,
> then life would be vastly better, but if you forget the locker is ON, and
> you get onto a surface where the tires can't slip, then the stresses can
> cause damage to the differential(s).
>
> You have Manual Lockers on your Rubicon. They are normally set to OFF, and
> should remain OFF until you anticipate a need to turn them ON. If you plan
> ahead and turn them ON before you actually need them, you should be better
> off most of the time. If you wait until you are stuck before turning the
> lockers ON, you might still be stuck.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________