Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
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Re: Lisa Horton is One Smart Woman: SUVs Stink
Shoot, I thought it wuz just plain fun to run over the "size challenged"
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>
cars. I must admit that it can be difficult to pick them out of the frame
rails when I get home, though....
Really, driving around D.C. in a small car is the pits. People cut you off
and are, in general, very rude drivers. Driving my old Jeep, people tended
to be a bit more cautious. Perhaps it was the fact that when they looked
out their back window all they seen was rubber and differential. = )
Here is a concept -- how about everyone driving like there is a police car
directly behind them. I think that there would be a significant reduction
in auto accidents and traffic jams.
IOW, drive as courteous as you would like others to be.
-- Joe
"Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:t5Qkb.2208$7t3.72282@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Suggesting that all SUV's are dangerous just because the handling
properties
> accredited to a curious narrow track, high c-o-g Japanese style jeep (a
> Suzuki, but laterly known as the Geo Tracker) led to a succession of
> rollovers and fatalitites in the hands of idiots is kinda like suggesting
> that all cars are based on the Chevrolet Corvair (the car that spawned the
> book "Unsafe at any speed") and, as such, should be banned from use on
> public roads.. all vehicles are dangerous to the occupants and others if
in
> the 'wrong' hands.. as long as the SUV driver engages sense at the same
time
> as selecting 4WD, and the 'Hot' Honda Civic driver activates sense as well
> as the 1000 watt stereo and the 'hydraulic' suspension, we should be able
to
> all get along without killing each other..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:5e190aec50b6739ba291544f9a87fbb9@dizum.com...
> > >Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that
I
> > >can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it
would
> > >be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a
bonus.
> > >
> > >Lisa
> >
> > Lisa, you scored with me. Taking on hundreds of redneck bozos takes
guts.
> >
> > You must have been reading my posts, because I have said the same thing
> > over and over and over again, almost to the point of ad infinitum & ad
> > nauseum.
> >
> > Building cars in the 2000's with the balance (or lack of) of cars
> discarded
> > to the rubbish bin in the 1920's is the epitomy of hilarity. I never
> cease
> > to be amazed that so many fools are blowing their wads on those tipsy
> SUVs.
> >
> > The problem with SUVs isn't fuel consumption. Its your gas. You can
> burn
> > it with a match for all I care. The problem is you SUV owners are going
> to
> > kill somebody with it because you are scared shitless to whip that
> steering
> > wheel back and forth to do a collision advoidance. You have no
> alternative
> > but to plow at full speed directly into some defenseless car full of
kids
> > because if you try anything like steering around an emergency situation
> you
> > will flip and kill yourself first, before continuing your death slide
into
> > your victims' car and taking them out as well.
> >
> > There is a way. If it can be reasonably demonstrated (51%) that you
could
> > have prevented a fatal by manuevering, but you didn't, I would charge
you
> > with frustrated manslaughter. Even though its really your SUV's fault
> > because it steers like a battleship. I would also hold the manufacturer
> > accountable for peddling off an accident waiting to happen. Prosecute
some
> > of those executives for conspiracy to commit unmitigated manslaughter.
> > Don't fine them...they've already made monetary allowances for fines and
> > judgments in the overcharges. Don't those trash heaps cost $30,000 and
> up?
> >
> > One more thing for you out there that don't read my posts regularly. You
> > already know how tipsy SUVs are. But its worse than you think. When
they
> > are loaded to maximum gross weight, including the roof rack load, they
are
> > MORE TIPSY. And when fuel is minimum, they are MORE TIPSY YET. All
things
> > considered, they are much much worse than you thought and worse than
> > CONSUMER REPORTS THINK ALSO. I suggest all you SUV owners organize and
> > launch a class-action suit to recover all the unused value (as if they
had
> > any to start with) left in your SUVs, based on a straight-lin 10 year
> > depreciation. It will bankrupt the lenders, dealers, and manufacturers!
> > Take the money and run before you flip and kill yourself or ram somebody
> > and go to prison penniless.
> >
> > Federal Government: In between wars, set up the DOT so it regulates and
> > certifies cars for roadworthiness just like you did private airplanes
back
> > in the '30s. Don't let any cars be sold for the road unless they are
> > triple safe.
> >
>
>