Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
05-05-2004, 08:36 PM
#51
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
Very well against a diesel, thank you. I've never seen anything
come out my exhaust like that Mercedes across the street. And probably
clearer than any SMOGed vehicle on the street, if I can keep my foot out
of it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Bill wrote:
>
> Oh and how would your "real jeep" fair compaired to today's
> emission standards...?
come out my exhaust like that Mercedes across the street. And probably
clearer than any SMOGed vehicle on the street, if I can keep my foot out
of it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Oh and how would your "real jeep" fair compaired to today's
> emission standards...?
05-05-2004, 08:36 PM
#52
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
Very well against a diesel, thank you. I've never seen anything
come out my exhaust like that Mercedes across the street. And probably
clearer than any SMOGed vehicle on the street, if I can keep my foot out
of it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Oh and how would your "real jeep" fair compaired to today's
> emission standards...?
come out my exhaust like that Mercedes across the street. And probably
clearer than any SMOGed vehicle on the street, if I can keep my foot out
of it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Oh and how would your "real jeep" fair compaired to today's
> emission standards...?
05-05-2004, 08:36 PM
#53
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
Very well against a diesel, thank you. I've never seen anything
come out my exhaust like that Mercedes across the street. And probably
clearer than any SMOGed vehicle on the street, if I can keep my foot out
of it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Oh and how would your "real jeep" fair compaired to today's
> emission standards...?
come out my exhaust like that Mercedes across the street. And probably
clearer than any SMOGed vehicle on the street, if I can keep my foot out
of it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill wrote:
>
> Oh and how would your "real jeep" fair compaired to today's
> emission standards...?
05-05-2004, 09:03 PM
#54
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
05-05-2004, 09:03 PM
#55
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
05-05-2004, 09:03 PM
#56
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
05-05-2004, 09:03 PM
#57
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
sold.
Have a nice day.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40996DA3.446ACA88@***.net...
> Geez Chris! Learn what CO stands for! Then read it from a chart they
> hope to restrict their pollution in the future to:
> http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html Then compare it to my
> twenty five year old Bronco tests: http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg I
> know what a diesel is good for I've hauled eighty thousand pounds over a
> million miles, but passenger cars are not one of them, thank God all but
> a few VWs are outlawed here in California.
> PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Chris Galvin wrote:
> >
> > Diesels are far more energy efficient, producing less carbon emmissions
than
> > a petrol vehicle; most people would say this is the primary
environmental
> > problem of our times. The only issue with diesels is the particulate
> > emmissions which is pretty much solved with the latest filters. The
current
> > American Scientific has a major article on this issue if your
interested;
> > seems the new hydrogen fuel cells are a disaster environmentally.
> > Chris.
05-05-2004, 09:16 PM
#58
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
If you had read the chart you too would have known those are
propose values, and that the dirty diesel doesn't not come close to
passing them now, and that that there was nothing said about the cleaner
burning gasoline, that's why I put my test up. Go ahead a pollute the
world form your little island, just don't try BS us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chris Galvin wrote:
>
> What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
> references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
> gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
> those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
> Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
> suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
> outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
> sold.
> Have a nice day.
> Chris
propose values, and that the dirty diesel doesn't not come close to
passing them now, and that that there was nothing said about the cleaner
burning gasoline, that's why I put my test up. Go ahead a pollute the
world form your little island, just don't try BS us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chris Galvin wrote:
>
> What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
> references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
> gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
> those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
> Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
> suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
> outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
> sold.
> Have a nice day.
> Chris
05-05-2004, 09:16 PM
#59
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Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
If you had read the chart you too would have known those are
propose values, and that the dirty diesel doesn't not come close to
passing them now, and that that there was nothing said about the cleaner
burning gasoline, that's why I put my test up. Go ahead a pollute the
world form your little island, just don't try BS us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chris Galvin wrote:
>
> What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
> references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
> gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
> those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
> Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
> suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
> outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
> sold.
> Have a nice day.
> Chris
propose values, and that the dirty diesel doesn't not come close to
passing them now, and that that there was nothing said about the cleaner
burning gasoline, that's why I put my test up. Go ahead a pollute the
world form your little island, just don't try BS us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chris Galvin wrote:
>
> What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
> references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
> gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
> those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
> Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
> suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
> outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
> sold.
> Have a nice day.
> Chris
05-05-2004, 09:16 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Libert Diesel...Nov 04 or early 05?
If you had read the chart you too would have known those are
propose values, and that the dirty diesel doesn't not come close to
passing them now, and that that there was nothing said about the cleaner
burning gasoline, that's why I put my test up. Go ahead a pollute the
world form your little island, just don't try BS us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chris Galvin wrote:
>
> What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
> references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
> gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
> those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
> Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
> suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
> outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
> sold.
> Have a nice day.
> Chris
propose values, and that the dirty diesel doesn't not come close to
passing them now, and that that there was nothing said about the cleaner
burning gasoline, that's why I put my test up. Go ahead a pollute the
world form your little island, just don't try BS us.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Chris Galvin wrote:
>
> What an excitable chap. Actually Bill you've been foiled by your own
> references the first of which states that as of now all vehicles, diesel,
> gasoline or vinegar, must meet the same emmission requirements. Probably why
> those pesky diesel VW passenger cars are welcome in California.
> Also if you had half a brain you'd realise that 4wd vehicles are perfectly
> suited to diesel engines due to the extra torque low down. Jesus in most of
> outback Australia, where EVERY vehicle is a 4wd, diesel is the only fuel
> sold.
> Have a nice day.
> Chris