How much? ;)

Lon Stowell wrote:
> Yeah, them lawyers are just all scum and you are the incarnation
> of Mother Theresa. I got some swampland you may be interested in,
> previous owner was the tooth fairy. Got a great bridge to access
> it as well, just relocated from New York City. Sheesh.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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I just contacted my old Company and told them they are not to discuss or
negotiate anything with Lon, but to instead insist they will only speak with
his (bottom-feeder) lawyer.

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1Fyvb.2204$ZJ7.362@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> How much? ;)
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Yeah, them lawyers are just all scum and you are the incarnation
> > of Mother Theresa. I got some swampland you may be interested in,
> > previous owner was the tooth fairy. Got a great bridge to access
> > it as well, just relocated from New York City. Sheesh.
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

I just contacted my old Company and told them they are not to discuss or
negotiate anything with Lon, but to instead insist they will only speak with
his (bottom-feeder) lawyer.

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1Fyvb.2204$ZJ7.362@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> How much? ;)
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Yeah, them lawyers are just all scum and you are the incarnation
> > of Mother Theresa. I got some swampland you may be interested in,
> > previous owner was the tooth fairy. Got a great bridge to access
> > it as well, just relocated from New York City. Sheesh.
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

I just contacted my old Company and told them they are not to discuss or
negotiate anything with Lon, but to instead insist they will only speak with
his (bottom-feeder) lawyer.

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1Fyvb.2204$ZJ7.362@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> How much? ;)
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Yeah, them lawyers are just all scum and you are the incarnation
> > of Mother Theresa. I got some swampland you may be interested in,
> > previous owner was the tooth fairy. Got a great bridge to access
> > it as well, just relocated from New York City. Sheesh.
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

Well, I did have to sign a non-disclosure agreement...but I'm guessing that
Daimler won't bother me. I had a 99' Sahara that hade a MULTITUDE of service
issues. It met both conditions for being a lemon in TX. More than 5 attempts
to fix the same problems AND more than 30 cumulative days in the shop.

Believe me, if you don't do your homework and really learn the laws of your
state, the manufacturer WILL try to screw you. I made a settlement agreement
with a DC rep who somehow left out several key elements of our agreement
when the contracts arrived. It took several months from the time I had a
hearing until I got my Jeep. Texas also has a free consumer advocate to help
with lemon law cases...without his help, I probably would have gotten
screwed out of hundreds of dollars, and probably would have needed a lawyer.

BTW, in Texas lemon lawsuits, unless you bring a lawyer to court with you,
the mfr can't have one at the hearing either.
RB

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bpk84n018gh@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > I have experience in Texas. MFR offered a MSRP to MSRP swap as
settlement.
> I took it, and got a new vehicle...not as nice as the lemon, but 2 years
> newer and got 0% finance as opposed to the 7+% on the first.>
>
> See, and no bottom-feeder lawyer wetting his beak to the tune of $15k for
> doing nothing, either!
>
> Who was the MFR, if I might ask?
>
>
>

 

Well, I did have to sign a non-disclosure agreement...but I'm guessing that
Daimler won't bother me. I had a 99' Sahara that hade a MULTITUDE of service
issues. It met both conditions for being a lemon in TX. More than 5 attempts
to fix the same problems AND more than 30 cumulative days in the shop.

Believe me, if you don't do your homework and really learn the laws of your
state, the manufacturer WILL try to screw you. I made a settlement agreement
with a DC rep who somehow left out several key elements of our agreement
when the contracts arrived. It took several months from the time I had a
hearing until I got my Jeep. Texas also has a free consumer advocate to help
with lemon law cases...without his help, I probably would have gotten
screwed out of hundreds of dollars, and probably would have needed a lawyer.

BTW, in Texas lemon lawsuits, unless you bring a lawyer to court with you,
the mfr can't have one at the hearing either.
RB

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bpk84n018gh@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > I have experience in Texas. MFR offered a MSRP to MSRP swap as
settlement.
> I took it, and got a new vehicle...not as nice as the lemon, but 2 years
> newer and got 0% finance as opposed to the 7+% on the first.>
>
> See, and no bottom-feeder lawyer wetting his beak to the tune of $15k for
> doing nothing, either!
>
> Who was the MFR, if I might ask?
>
>
>

 

Well, I did have to sign a non-disclosure agreement...but I'm guessing that
Daimler won't bother me. I had a 99' Sahara that hade a MULTITUDE of service
issues. It met both conditions for being a lemon in TX. More than 5 attempts
to fix the same problems AND more than 30 cumulative days in the shop.

Believe me, if you don't do your homework and really learn the laws of your
state, the manufacturer WILL try to screw you. I made a settlement agreement
with a DC rep who somehow left out several key elements of our agreement
when the contracts arrived. It took several months from the time I had a
hearing until I got my Jeep. Texas also has a free consumer advocate to help
with lemon law cases...without his help, I probably would have gotten
screwed out of hundreds of dollars, and probably would have needed a lawyer.

BTW, in Texas lemon lawsuits, unless you bring a lawyer to court with you,
the mfr can't have one at the hearing either.
RB

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bpk84n018gh@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > I have experience in Texas. MFR offered a MSRP to MSRP swap as
settlement.
> I took it, and got a new vehicle...not as nice as the lemon, but 2 years
> newer and got 0% finance as opposed to the 7+% on the first.>
>
> See, and no bottom-feeder lawyer wetting his beak to the tune of $15k for
> doing nothing, either!
>
> Who was the MFR, if I might ask?
>
>
>

 

> BTW, in Texas lemon lawsuits, unless you bring a lawyer to court with you,
the mfr can't have one at the hearing either. <

I recall that Texas used to do the BBB Autoline third party arbitration
thing to keep this stuff out of the courts. Their decisions were not binding
on the consumer, but were on the mfr, so if an owner didn't like the
decision they could still sue. However, most of the State courts seemed to
refuse to try the cases if BBB had ruled unless there was something very
wrong with the decision.

 

> BTW, in Texas lemon lawsuits, unless you bring a lawyer to court with you,
the mfr can't have one at the hearing either. <

I recall that Texas used to do the BBB Autoline third party arbitration
thing to keep this stuff out of the courts. Their decisions were not binding
on the consumer, but were on the mfr, so if an owner didn't like the
decision they could still sue. However, most of the State courts seemed to
refuse to try the cases if BBB had ruled unless there was something very
wrong with the decision.

 

> BTW, in Texas lemon lawsuits, unless you bring a lawyer to court with you,
the mfr can't have one at the hearing either. <

I recall that Texas used to do the BBB Autoline third party arbitration
thing to keep this stuff out of the courts. Their decisions were not binding
on the consumer, but were on the mfr, so if an owner didn't like the
decision they could still sue. However, most of the State courts seemed to
refuse to try the cases if BBB had ruled unless there was something very
wrong with the decision.