Is this Jeep worth it?
10-28-2005, 09:55 PM
#21
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
it.
It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear that
the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I could
expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
habits are, that'd be OK by me.
As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
it.
It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear that
the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I could
expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
habits are, that'd be OK by me.
10-28-2005, 09:55 PM
#22
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
it.
It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear that
the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I could
expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
habits are, that'd be OK by me.
As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
it.
It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear that
the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I could
expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
habits are, that'd be OK by me.
10-28-2005, 10:15 PM
#23
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
You had me worried there ... while you were describing the Honda I, at
first, thought you were talking about the Grand.
I would expect you will get many years good service, especially with as
little as you plan to drive it.
Knowing the vehicle history is a big plus. The most important thing is to
change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and the other items on the SEVERE
service schedule at their appropriate time and keep you tires aired up.
In addition to general Jeep advise there are several Grand Cherokees near
your vintage here in the group.
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"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:568a5ff874c9a@uwe...
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
> said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
> the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
> into
> it.
>
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
> pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
> problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm,
> it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
> w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear
> that
> the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I
> could
> expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
> habits are, that'd be OK by me.
first, thought you were talking about the Grand.
I would expect you will get many years good service, especially with as
little as you plan to drive it.
Knowing the vehicle history is a big plus. The most important thing is to
change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and the other items on the SEVERE
service schedule at their appropriate time and keep you tires aired up.
In addition to general Jeep advise there are several Grand Cherokees near
your vintage here in the group.
br
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:568a5ff874c9a@uwe...
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
> said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
> the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
> into
> it.
>
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
> pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
> problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm,
> it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
> w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear
> that
> the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I
> could
> expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
> habits are, that'd be OK by me.
10-28-2005, 10:15 PM
#24
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
You had me worried there ... while you were describing the Honda I, at
first, thought you were talking about the Grand.
I would expect you will get many years good service, especially with as
little as you plan to drive it.
Knowing the vehicle history is a big plus. The most important thing is to
change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and the other items on the SEVERE
service schedule at their appropriate time and keep you tires aired up.
In addition to general Jeep advise there are several Grand Cherokees near
your vintage here in the group.
br
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:568a5ff874c9a@uwe...
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
> said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
> the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
> into
> it.
>
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
> pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
> problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm,
> it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
> w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear
> that
> the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I
> could
> expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
> habits are, that'd be OK by me.
first, thought you were talking about the Grand.
I would expect you will get many years good service, especially with as
little as you plan to drive it.
Knowing the vehicle history is a big plus. The most important thing is to
change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and the other items on the SEVERE
service schedule at their appropriate time and keep you tires aired up.
In addition to general Jeep advise there are several Grand Cherokees near
your vintage here in the group.
br
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:568a5ff874c9a@uwe...
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
> said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
> the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
> into
> it.
>
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
> pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
> problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm,
> it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
> w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear
> that
> the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I
> could
> expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
> habits are, that'd be OK by me.
10-28-2005, 10:15 PM
#25
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
You had me worried there ... while you were describing the Honda I, at
first, thought you were talking about the Grand.
I would expect you will get many years good service, especially with as
little as you plan to drive it.
Knowing the vehicle history is a big plus. The most important thing is to
change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and the other items on the SEVERE
service schedule at their appropriate time and keep you tires aired up.
In addition to general Jeep advise there are several Grand Cherokees near
your vintage here in the group.
br
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:568a5ff874c9a@uwe...
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
> said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
> the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
> into
> it.
>
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
> pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
> problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm,
> it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
> w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear
> that
> the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I
> could
> expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
> habits are, that'd be OK by me.
first, thought you were talking about the Grand.
I would expect you will get many years good service, especially with as
little as you plan to drive it.
Knowing the vehicle history is a big plus. The most important thing is to
change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and the other items on the SEVERE
service schedule at their appropriate time and keep you tires aired up.
In addition to general Jeep advise there are several Grand Cherokees near
your vintage here in the group.
br
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:568a5ff874c9a@uwe...
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
> said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
> the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
> into
> it.
>
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
> pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
> problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm,
> it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
> w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> There are other minor issues, but it does run fine overall. I just fear
> that
> the tranny may not make the winter. Now this Jeep came along, and if I
> could
> expect 2 years out of it, based on what I've told you, and what my driving
> habits are, that'd be OK by me.
10-28-2005, 10:41 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
> it.
You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
it has problems with.
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
bore requiring an engine rebuild.
sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn guides
or damaged rings.
oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output shaft
bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
Now for some reality:
5.2 shortblock $2,500
Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods & Bearings.
Cylinder Head (each) $341
Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
going to be about half the part.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
> it.
You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
it has problems with.
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
bore requiring an engine rebuild.
sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn guides
or damaged rings.
oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output shaft
bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
Now for some reality:
5.2 shortblock $2,500
Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods & Bearings.
Cylinder Head (each) $341
Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
going to be about half the part.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
10-28-2005, 10:41 PM
#27
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
> it.
You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
it has problems with.
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
bore requiring an engine rebuild.
sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn guides
or damaged rings.
oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output shaft
bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
Now for some reality:
5.2 shortblock $2,500
Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods & Bearings.
Cylinder Head (each) $341
Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
going to be about half the part.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
> it.
You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
it has problems with.
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
bore requiring an engine rebuild.
sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn guides
or damaged rings.
oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output shaft
bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
Now for some reality:
5.2 shortblock $2,500
Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods & Bearings.
Cylinder Head (each) $341
Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
going to be about half the part.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
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10-28-2005, 10:41 PM
#28
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
> it.
You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
it has problems with.
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
bore requiring an engine rebuild.
sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn guides
or damaged rings.
oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output shaft
bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
Now for some reality:
5.2 shortblock $2,500
Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods & Bearings.
Cylinder Head (each) $341
Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
going to be about half the part.
--
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HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>
> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I said,
> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at the
> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$ into
> it.
You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
it has problems with.
> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil pan/tranny
> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny problem
> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once warm, it
> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush w/the
> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
bore requiring an engine rebuild.
sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn guides
or damaged rings.
oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output shaft
bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
Now for some reality:
5.2 shortblock $2,500
Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods & Bearings.
Cylinder Head (each) $341
Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
going to be about half the part.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
10-28-2005, 10:45 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
I believe that is the condition of his rice burner he is detailing.
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
>> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>>
>> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
>> said,
>> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
>> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
>> the
>> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
>> into
>> it.
>
> You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
> it has problems with.
>
>> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
>> pan/tranny
>> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
>> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
>> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
>> problem
>> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
>> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once
>> warm, it
>> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
>> w/the
>> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
> head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
> bore requiring an engine rebuild.
>
> sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn
> guides
> or damaged rings.
>
> oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output
> shaft
> bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
>
>
> Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
> maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
>
> Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
> and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
> diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
>
> Now for some reality:
>
> 5.2 shortblock $2,500
> Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods &
> Bearings.
> Cylinder Head (each) $341
> Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
> Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
>
> And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
> going to be about half the part.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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..
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:sjB8f.17019$v_5.243@dukeread07...
> jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
>> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>>
>> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
>> said,
>> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
>> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
>> the
>> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
>> into
>> it.
>
> You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
> it has problems with.
>
>> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
>> pan/tranny
>> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
>> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
>> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
>> problem
>> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
>> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once
>> warm, it
>> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
>> w/the
>> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
> head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
> bore requiring an engine rebuild.
>
> sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn
> guides
> or damaged rings.
>
> oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output
> shaft
> bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
>
>
> Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
> maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
>
> Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
> and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
> diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
>
> Now for some reality:
>
> 5.2 shortblock $2,500
> Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods &
> Bearings.
> Cylinder Head (each) $341
> Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
> Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
>
> And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
> going to be about half the part.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
10-28-2005, 10:45 PM
#30
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
I believe that is the condition of his rice burner he is detailing.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:sjB8f.17019$v_5.243@dukeread07...
> jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
>> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>>
>> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
>> said,
>> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
>> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
>> the
>> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
>> into
>> it.
>
> You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
> it has problems with.
>
>> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
>> pan/tranny
>> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
>> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
>> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
>> problem
>> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
>> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once
>> warm, it
>> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
>> w/the
>> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
> head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
> bore requiring an engine rebuild.
>
> sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn
> guides
> or damaged rings.
>
> oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output
> shaft
> bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
>
>
> Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
> maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
>
> Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
> and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
> diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
>
> Now for some reality:
>
> 5.2 shortblock $2,500
> Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods &
> Bearings.
> Cylinder Head (each) $341
> Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
> Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
>
> And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
> going to be about half the part.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:sjB8f.17019$v_5.243@dukeread07...
> jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
>> Indeed it is a Grand Cherokee. Sorry for that.
>>
>> As far as use goes, well I don't plan on any off-road stuff. Just as I
>> said,
>> I do about 10K mi./yr driving, 75% city, 25% highway I'd guess. I can't
>> afford really anything much now (this is about as much as I can spend at
>> the
>> moment), my old 1989 honda is going and I don't want to put any more $$
>> into
>> it.
>
> You going to probably have to put more into the ZJ given what you say
> it has problems with.
>
>> It's got an engine seal leak (emissions white when floored), oil
>> pan/tranny
>> case leak (a few drops over night). Every 3 wks I add ~qt engine oil. Gas
>> mileage is <20 mi/gal cuz of these probs., and that's w/super (engine has
>> knocks/hard starts w/ regular). Over the last couple months a tranny
>> problem
>> has appeared. If I drive it before warming it for ~5 mins. (even in the
>> summer) the tranny does not shift gears until very high RPM's.. once
>> warm, it
>> shifts/drives normally-- there's enough fluid, I recently had a flush
>> w/the
>> machine, and put Lucas in also-- no effect at all.
>
> the white smoke is coolant being burned because the engine has a blown
> head gasket. If left long enough it will destroy (erode) the piston and
> bore requiring an engine rebuild.
>
> sucking oil indicates the problem has probably gone further with worn
> guides
> or damaged rings.
>
> oil drips are fairly common. rear main seal for the engine and output
> shaft
> bushing on the tranny are the usual culprits.
>
>
> Given the state of this engine I doubt the previous owner did any routine
> maintenance and probably abused the hell out of the vehicle.
>
> Just my feeling, but your in for an engine rebuild and tranny overhaul,
> and given those problems I'd also wonder about the other mechanicals
> diffs/transfer case (if it has 4wd).
>
> Now for some reality:
>
> 5.2 shortblock $2,500
> Cylinder Block With Pistons & Rings, Crankshaft, Connecting Rods &
> Bearings.
> Cylinder Head (each) $341
> Upper Overhaul gasket kit $100
> Transmission, All Models, 5.2L, $2,304.20
>
> And that's assuming you do your own work. Figure labor is
> going to be about half the part.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
