Is this Jeep worth it?
10-31-2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
LOL!
Ohh the smoke outs I have seen and done....
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> "Top end cleaner" as in ATF or water? Everytime this comes up I still
> have images of Mike running a pint of ATF through the intake and
> smoking out the neighbors. We could probably help New Orleans'
> mosquito problem, though, if enough of us just drove down and
> de-carboned our engines with a pint of ATF all at once.
>
> Seriously, blasting the cylinders clean will help a lot, but I've seen
> a lot of reports from people saying that the V-8 took something above
> regular to stop it pinging from day one. Thing is, if it has been fed
> 87 octane for that many miles pinging all that time, you should have
> other problems as well - like burned valves, misses, rough running,
> etc. so there's a fair chance that blowing the carbon out will resolve
> nearly all the problem.
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:58:02 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
> > run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
> > then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
> > in works best in my opinion.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> > > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> > >
> > > I plan to:
> > > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> > > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > > 3) Unibelt
> > > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> > >
> > > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> > > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> > > only 87.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> > > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> > > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> > > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> > >
> > > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> > >
> > > Is that correct?
> > >
> > > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> > > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> > > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
> --
> Will Honea
Ohh the smoke outs I have seen and done....
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> "Top end cleaner" as in ATF or water? Everytime this comes up I still
> have images of Mike running a pint of ATF through the intake and
> smoking out the neighbors. We could probably help New Orleans'
> mosquito problem, though, if enough of us just drove down and
> de-carboned our engines with a pint of ATF all at once.
>
> Seriously, blasting the cylinders clean will help a lot, but I've seen
> a lot of reports from people saying that the V-8 took something above
> regular to stop it pinging from day one. Thing is, if it has been fed
> 87 octane for that many miles pinging all that time, you should have
> other problems as well - like burned valves, misses, rough running,
> etc. so there's a fair chance that blowing the carbon out will resolve
> nearly all the problem.
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:58:02 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
> > run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
> > then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
> > in works best in my opinion.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> > > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> > >
> > > I plan to:
> > > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> > > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > > 3) Unibelt
> > > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> > >
> > > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> > > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> > > only 87.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> > > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> > > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> > > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> > >
> > > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> > >
> > > Is that correct?
> > >
> > > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> > > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> > > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
> --
> Will Honea
10-31-2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
LOL!
Ohh the smoke outs I have seen and done....
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> "Top end cleaner" as in ATF or water? Everytime this comes up I still
> have images of Mike running a pint of ATF through the intake and
> smoking out the neighbors. We could probably help New Orleans'
> mosquito problem, though, if enough of us just drove down and
> de-carboned our engines with a pint of ATF all at once.
>
> Seriously, blasting the cylinders clean will help a lot, but I've seen
> a lot of reports from people saying that the V-8 took something above
> regular to stop it pinging from day one. Thing is, if it has been fed
> 87 octane for that many miles pinging all that time, you should have
> other problems as well - like burned valves, misses, rough running,
> etc. so there's a fair chance that blowing the carbon out will resolve
> nearly all the problem.
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:58:02 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
> > run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
> > then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
> > in works best in my opinion.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> > > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> > >
> > > I plan to:
> > > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> > > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > > 3) Unibelt
> > > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> > >
> > > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> > > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> > > only 87.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> > > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> > > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> > > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> > >
> > > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> > >
> > > Is that correct?
> > >
> > > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> > > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> > > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
> --
> Will Honea
Ohh the smoke outs I have seen and done....
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> "Top end cleaner" as in ATF or water? Everytime this comes up I still
> have images of Mike running a pint of ATF through the intake and
> smoking out the neighbors. We could probably help New Orleans'
> mosquito problem, though, if enough of us just drove down and
> de-carboned our engines with a pint of ATF all at once.
>
> Seriously, blasting the cylinders clean will help a lot, but I've seen
> a lot of reports from people saying that the V-8 took something above
> regular to stop it pinging from day one. Thing is, if it has been fed
> 87 octane for that many miles pinging all that time, you should have
> other problems as well - like burned valves, misses, rough running,
> etc. so there's a fair chance that blowing the carbon out will resolve
> nearly all the problem.
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:58:02 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
> > run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
> > then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
> > in works best in my opinion.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> > > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> > >
> > > I plan to:
> > > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> > > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > > 3) Unibelt
> > > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> > >
> > > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> > > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> > > only 87.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> > > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> > > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> > > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> > >
> > > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> > >
> > > Is that correct?
> > >
> > > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> > > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> > > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
> --
> Will Honea
10-31-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
> back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
> have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
> Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
> or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
> output seal.
Yea.. a socket.. The only place I could get a 1/4" drive that could fit
without going through a whole set of adapters was from strap-on.
Oh well, I got a 25$ shiny toy.. my precious..
--
DougW
> The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
> back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
> have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
> Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
> or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
> output seal.
Yea.. a socket.. The only place I could get a 1/4" drive that could fit
without going through a whole set of adapters was from strap-on.
Oh well, I got a 25$ shiny toy.. my precious..
--
DougW
10-31-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
> back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
> have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
> Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
> or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
> output seal.
Yea.. a socket.. The only place I could get a 1/4" drive that could fit
without going through a whole set of adapters was from strap-on.
Oh well, I got a 25$ shiny toy.. my precious..
--
DougW
> The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
> back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
> have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
> Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
> or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
> output seal.
Yea.. a socket.. The only place I could get a 1/4" drive that could fit
without going through a whole set of adapters was from strap-on.
Oh well, I got a 25$ shiny toy.. my precious..
--
DougW
10-31-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
> back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
> have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
> Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
> or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
> output seal.
Yea.. a socket.. The only place I could get a 1/4" drive that could fit
without going through a whole set of adapters was from strap-on.
Oh well, I got a 25$ shiny toy.. my precious..
--
DougW
> The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
> back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
> have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
> Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
> or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
> output seal.
Yea.. a socket.. The only place I could get a 1/4" drive that could fit
without going through a whole set of adapters was from strap-on.
Oh well, I got a 25$ shiny toy.. my precious..
--
DougW
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