Is this Jeep worth it?
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
> leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
> the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
> policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> transmission oil.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> --snippy--
> > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> >
> > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > with time.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
> leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
> the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
> policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> transmission oil.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> --snippy--
> > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> >
> > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > with time.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
> leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
> the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
> policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> transmission oil.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> --snippy--
> > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> >
> > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > with time.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
> leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
> the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
> policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> transmission oil.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> --snippy--
> > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> >
> > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > with time.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
> leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
> the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
> policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> transmission oil.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> --snippy--
> > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> >
> > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > with time.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
> leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
> the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
> policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> transmission oil.
>
> Earle
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> --snippy--
> > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> >
> > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > with time.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
gushing out from there.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
design, a
> > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
formed
> > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
a
> > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > transmission oil.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > --snippy--
> > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > >
> > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > with time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
gushing out from there.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
design, a
> > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
formed
> > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
a
> > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > transmission oil.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > --snippy--
> > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > >
> > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > with time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
gushing out from there.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
design, a
> > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
formed
> > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
a
> > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > transmission oil.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > --snippy--
> > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > >
> > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > with time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
gushing out from there.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
design, a
> > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
formed
> > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
a
> > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > transmission oil.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > --snippy--
> > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > >
> > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > with time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
Guest
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
gushing out from there.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
design, a
> > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
formed
> > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
a
> > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > transmission oil.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > --snippy--
> > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > >
> > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > with time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
gushing out from there.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
design, a
> > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
formed
> > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
a
> > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > transmission oil.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > --snippy--
> > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > >
> > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > with time.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
Guest
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Ah ok.... Mine has an air space that is vented so tranny fluid would
just come out in-between the two units rather than build up enough
pressure to get into the t-case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
> fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
> case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
> unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
> but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
> gushing out from there.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> > The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
> design, a
> > > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
> formed
> > > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
> a
> > > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > > transmission oil.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > > --snippy--
> > > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > > >
> > > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > > with time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > DougW
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
just come out in-between the two units rather than build up enough
pressure to get into the t-case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
> fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
> case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
> unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
> but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
> gushing out from there.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> > The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
> design, a
> > > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
> formed
> > > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
> a
> > > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > > transmission oil.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > > --snippy--
> > > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > > >
> > > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > > with time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > DougW
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Ah ok.... Mine has an air space that is vented so tranny fluid would
just come out in-between the two units rather than build up enough
pressure to get into the t-case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
> fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
> case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
> unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
> but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
> gushing out from there.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> > The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
> design, a
> > > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
> formed
> > > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
> a
> > > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > > transmission oil.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > > --snippy--
> > > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > > >
> > > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > > with time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > DougW
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
just come out in-between the two units rather than build up enough
pressure to get into the t-case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
> fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
> case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
> unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
> but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
> gushing out from there.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> > The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
> design, a
> > > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
> formed
> > > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
> a
> > > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > > transmission oil.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > > --snippy--
> > > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > > >
> > > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > > with time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > DougW
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Ah ok.... Mine has an air space that is vented so tranny fluid would
just come out in-between the two units rather than build up enough
pressure to get into the t-case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
> fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
> case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
> unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
> but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
> gushing out from there.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> > The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
> design, a
> > > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
> formed
> > > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
> a
> > > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > > transmission oil.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > > --snippy--
> > > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > > >
> > > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > > with time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > DougW
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
just come out in-between the two units rather than build up enough
pressure to get into the t-case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Uh yeah, but this seal is designed to keep oil in, not out. Transmission
> fluid, leaking into the space between the transmission and the transfer
> case, will make its way into the transfer case. The symptoms are
> unmistakable too. Fluid added to the transmission, no sign where it went,
> but if you think to remove the transfer case fill plug, a couple of quarts
> gushing out from there.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4365023D.C22D7920@sympatico.ca...
> > The t-cases are sealed units these days Earl.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same
> design, a
> > > leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
> > > replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I
> formed
> > > the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had
> a
> > > policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
> > > vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
> > > explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
> > > transmission oil.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
> > > --snippy--
> > > > "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
> > > >
> > > > The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> > > > on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> > > > converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> > > > with time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > DougW
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it? Now Jeep Trip photos.
Just FYI, I have added a pile more albums to the public or non members
list.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(Lots more Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> What happened to the 200+ pix that Steve took on the trip?
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >
list.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(Lots more Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> What happened to the 200+ pix that Steve took on the trip?
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom right of that page)
> >