Is this Jeep worth it?
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
They normally take different types of fluid even.
If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
tailshaft.
You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
new pan gasket.
I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
gasket.
If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
some finger loose.
Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
well.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
They normally take different types of fluid even.
If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
tailshaft.
You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
new pan gasket.
I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
gasket.
If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
some finger loose.
Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
well.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
#152
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Somewhere along the line they "new and improved" the rotor button and cap.
When you replace them be certain they are a matching set.
The local mechanic on the Do-it-yourself radio show says the only injector
cleaner that really works well is Chevron's Techron. Chevron makes 2
products with similar names, one is the Techron cleaner and the other is a
cleaner with Techron. The real stuff is about $5 for the small bottle.
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"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:56a7763d461db@uwe...
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
> for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
> quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
> something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
> you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak
> of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
When you replace them be certain they are a matching set.
The local mechanic on the Do-it-yourself radio show says the only injector
cleaner that really works well is Chevron's Techron. Chevron makes 2
products with similar names, one is the Techron cleaner and the other is a
cleaner with Techron. The real stuff is about $5 for the small bottle.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:56a7763d461db@uwe...
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
> for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
> quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
> something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
> you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak
> of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
#153
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Somewhere along the line they "new and improved" the rotor button and cap.
When you replace them be certain they are a matching set.
The local mechanic on the Do-it-yourself radio show says the only injector
cleaner that really works well is Chevron's Techron. Chevron makes 2
products with similar names, one is the Techron cleaner and the other is a
cleaner with Techron. The real stuff is about $5 for the small bottle.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:56a7763d461db@uwe...
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
> for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
> quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
> something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
> you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak
> of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
When you replace them be certain they are a matching set.
The local mechanic on the Do-it-yourself radio show says the only injector
cleaner that really works well is Chevron's Techron. Chevron makes 2
products with similar names, one is the Techron cleaner and the other is a
cleaner with Techron. The real stuff is about $5 for the small bottle.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:56a7763d461db@uwe...
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
> for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
> quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
> something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
> you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak
> of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
#154
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Somewhere along the line they "new and improved" the rotor button and cap.
When you replace them be certain they are a matching set.
The local mechanic on the Do-it-yourself radio show says the only injector
cleaner that really works well is Chevron's Techron. Chevron makes 2
products with similar names, one is the Techron cleaner and the other is a
cleaner with Techron. The real stuff is about $5 for the small bottle.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:56a7763d461db@uwe...
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
> for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
> quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
> something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
> you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak
> of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
When you replace them be certain they are a matching set.
The local mechanic on the Do-it-yourself radio show says the only injector
cleaner that really works well is Chevron's Techron. Chevron makes 2
products with similar names, one is the Techron cleaner and the other is a
cleaner with Techron. The real stuff is about $5 for the small bottle.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:56a7763d461db@uwe...
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
> for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
> quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
> something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
> you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak
> of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
#155
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
output seal.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:436626BC.D080CFC8@sympatico.ca...
> The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
>
> The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
>
> They normally take different types of fluid even.
>
> If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
> nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
> tailshaft.
>
> You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
> to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
>
> Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
> pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
> and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
>
> Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
> seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
> new pan gasket.
>
> I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
> it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
> they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
> gasket.
>
> If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
> some finger loose.
>
> Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
> dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
> would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
> it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
> well.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
for
> > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> >
> > I plan to:
> > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the
pump
> > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > 3) Unibelt
> > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> >
> > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
quickly.
> > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been
fed
> > only 87.
> >
> > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
something
> > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
you
> > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one
of
> > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> >
> > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you
guys
> > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you
speak of
> > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
output seal.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:436626BC.D080CFC8@sympatico.ca...
> The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
>
> The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
>
> They normally take different types of fluid even.
>
> If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
> nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
> tailshaft.
>
> You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
> to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
>
> Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
> pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
> and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
>
> Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
> seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
> new pan gasket.
>
> I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
> it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
> they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
> gasket.
>
> If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
> some finger loose.
>
> Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
> dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
> would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
> it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
> well.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
for
> > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> >
> > I plan to:
> > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the
pump
> > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > 3) Unibelt
> > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> >
> > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
quickly.
> > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been
fed
> > only 87.
> >
> > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
something
> > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
you
> > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one
of
> > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> >
> > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you
guys
> > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you
speak of
> > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
#156
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
output seal.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:436626BC.D080CFC8@sympatico.ca...
> The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
>
> The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
>
> They normally take different types of fluid even.
>
> If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
> nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
> tailshaft.
>
> You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
> to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
>
> Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
> pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
> and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
>
> Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
> seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
> new pan gasket.
>
> I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
> it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
> they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
> gasket.
>
> If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
> some finger loose.
>
> Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
> dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
> would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
> it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
> well.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
for
> > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> >
> > I plan to:
> > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the
pump
> > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > 3) Unibelt
> > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> >
> > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
quickly.
> > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been
fed
> > only 87.
> >
> > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
something
> > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
you
> > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one
of
> > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> >
> > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you
guys
> > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you
speak of
> > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
output seal.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:436626BC.D080CFC8@sympatico.ca...
> The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
>
> The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
>
> They normally take different types of fluid even.
>
> If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
> nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
> tailshaft.
>
> You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
> to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
>
> Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
> pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
> and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
>
> Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
> seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
> new pan gasket.
>
> I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
> it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
> they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
> gasket.
>
> If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
> some finger loose.
>
> Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
> dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
> would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
> it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
> well.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
for
> > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> >
> > I plan to:
> > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the
pump
> > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > 3) Unibelt
> > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> >
> > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
quickly.
> > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been
fed
> > only 87.
> >
> > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
something
> > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
you
> > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one
of
> > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> >
> > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you
guys
> > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you
speak of
> > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
#157
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
The New Process aluminum body transfer cases have a fill/level plug on the
back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
output seal.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:436626BC.D080CFC8@sympatico.ca...
> The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
>
> The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
>
> They normally take different types of fluid even.
>
> If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
> nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
> tailshaft.
>
> You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
> to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
>
> Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
> pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
> and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
>
> Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
> seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
> new pan gasket.
>
> I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
> it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
> they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
> gasket.
>
> If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
> some finger loose.
>
> Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
> dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
> would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
> it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
> well.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
for
> > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> >
> > I plan to:
> > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the
pump
> > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > 3) Unibelt
> > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> >
> > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
quickly.
> > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been
fed
> > only 87.
> >
> > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
something
> > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
you
> > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one
of
> > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> >
> > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you
guys
> > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you
speak of
> > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
back. It takes a pretty big wrench, a little over an inch. On the ones I
have seen, the wrench flats aren't very deep, so a socket is recommended.
Yeah, they are sealed units, but if you take out the fill plug, and a quart
or more of fluid gushes out, that fluid came from a leaky transmission
output seal.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:436626BC.D080CFC8@sympatico.ca...
> The transmission is a one piece sealed unit.
>
> The transfer case is also a one piece sealed unit.
>
> They normally take different types of fluid even.
>
> If the transmission is low on fluid, it has a leak. This leak has
> nothing at all to do with the transfer case, the speedometer or the
> tailshaft.
>
> You must go under and remove a bolt on the top side of the transfer case
> to check the fluid level in the transfer case.
>
> Transmissions leak either up front between the tranny and engine, or the
> pan gasket leaks (by far the most common leak) or the rear seal leaks
> and drips out 'between' the transmission and transfer case.
>
> Non of the above means you need to replace anything except 'maybe' a
> seal or maybe just tighten a few bolts on the pan gasket or give it a
> new pan gasket.
>
> I would look at the pan gasket closely. If it has silicone sealer on
> it, someone changed the oil and likely the bolts just came loose like
> they normally do after a sloppy pan gasket change or they used the old
> gasket.
>
> If you try turning the transmission pan bolts by hand, I'll bet you find
> some finger loose.
>
> Then if it is only down a pint or so when you check the level hot, (the
> dipstick says whether to check it in neutral or park and running) I
> would recommend you ignore the leak for a couple months to see how much
> it does indeed leak. If it took 100,000 miles to go down a pint,
> well.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask
for
> > candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
> >
> > I plan to:
> > 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> > 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the
pump
> > itself (as DougW suggessted).
> > 3) Unibelt
> > 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
> >
> > I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> > there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates
quickly.
> > I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been
fed
> > only 87.
> >
> > What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried
something
> > like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps,
you
> > allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one
of
> > the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
> >
> > Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> > description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> > transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> > (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
> >
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you
guys
> > detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you
speak of
> > possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> > converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> > can't find reference to them in Haynes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via CarKB.com
> > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
>
#158
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
in works best in my opinion.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
in works best in my opinion.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
#159
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
in works best in my opinion.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
in works best in my opinion.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
On the pinging, i would just tune it up and take it for a good highway
run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
in works best in my opinion.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Message posted via CarKB.com
> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200510/1
run. This will clean up most of the junk inside. If it still pings,
then I would think about a top end clean job. The type that gets sucked
in works best in my opinion.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"jimboe via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice, pro and con. I've bought it and now I'll ask for
> candid advice from any of you regarding my next move.
>
> I plan to:
> 1) Tune-up: Ignintion wires, cap, rotor, plugs.
> 2) Power steering pump: Replace the O-ring or the return hose or the pump
> itself (as DougW suggessted).
> 3) Unibelt
> 4) Motor mounts and tranny mount
>
> I stated ealrier that when "flooring" it, say from 60 to go to 75 or 80,
> there is engine "pinging" as the gear drops down and it accelerates quickly.
> I attribute that to engine carbon build-up and that the truck has been fed
> only 87.
>
> What's the best way to remedy that build-up? Has anyone every tried something
> like the Excite 3 step fuel injector tune-up, where in one of the steps, you
> allow the vehicle to suck some cleaner into the intake manifold via one of
> the vaccuum hoses, like the one on the pcv valve.
>
> Regarding the tranny-leak issue around the transfer case. Based on my
> description thus far, it seems that some of you think that it's not the
> transfer case itself that needs to be replaced, but one of the seals
> (transfer case seal, speedometer O-ring) that is the source of the leak.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Earle and Mike, I'm probably missing the obvious here, but could you guys
> detail a little more on what parts you are referring to you when you speak of
> possible leak sources from the tailshaft, and the seals by the torque
> converter. If you're not referring to the two seals I mentioned above, I
> can't find reference to them in Haynes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
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