Is this Jeep worth it?
10-30-2005, 01:08 AM
#91
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Excellent advice from all so far!
You guys are terrific, more than I could've hoped for!
I probably won't have a chance/be able to take it to another mechanic, but I
will make an attempt..
Most likely, I'll just have to make a decision based on all that is being
said here.
Thanks again guys!
Feel free to keep it comin'! It's a tremendous help!
Jim
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You guys are terrific, more than I could've hoped for!
I probably won't have a chance/be able to take it to another mechanic, but I
will make an attempt..
Most likely, I'll just have to make a decision based on all that is being
said here.
Thanks again guys!
Feel free to keep it comin'! It's a tremendous help!
Jim
--
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10-30-2005, 02:28 AM
#92
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Fluid can leak from the transmission to the transfer case, if there is a
defect in the rear transmission seal. Then the transfer case will be
overfilled with fluid, and the transmission fluid level will be down. The
fix is to remove the transfer case, then replace the transmission rear seal.
The seal is inexpensive enough, but the labor to remove and replace the
transfer case is not small change. Then would be a good time to get the
transmission serviced, and the transmission (transfer case?) mount replaced.
The speedometer seal is a likely spot for leaks from the transfer case, but
all that extra fluid from the transmission isn't helping it any.
You can probably get away with putting off this repair for a while, as long
as you drain the excess fluid from the transfer case.
Earle
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
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--snippy--
>
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said
> there didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see
> any earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it
> should not be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the
> diff/trans case being "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out
> here."
>
> Great info!
> Thx
>
>
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defect in the rear transmission seal. Then the transfer case will be
overfilled with fluid, and the transmission fluid level will be down. The
fix is to remove the transfer case, then replace the transmission rear seal.
The seal is inexpensive enough, but the labor to remove and replace the
transfer case is not small change. Then would be a good time to get the
transmission serviced, and the transmission (transfer case?) mount replaced.
The speedometer seal is a likely spot for leaks from the transfer case, but
all that extra fluid from the transmission isn't helping it any.
You can probably get away with putting off this repair for a while, as long
as you drain the excess fluid from the transfer case.
Earle
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:569928407fe32@uwe...
--snippy--
>
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said
> there didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see
> any earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it
> should not be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the
> diff/trans case being "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out
> here."
>
> Great info!
> Thx
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
10-30-2005, 02:28 AM
#93
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Fluid can leak from the transmission to the transfer case, if there is a
defect in the rear transmission seal. Then the transfer case will be
overfilled with fluid, and the transmission fluid level will be down. The
fix is to remove the transfer case, then replace the transmission rear seal.
The seal is inexpensive enough, but the labor to remove and replace the
transfer case is not small change. Then would be a good time to get the
transmission serviced, and the transmission (transfer case?) mount replaced.
The speedometer seal is a likely spot for leaks from the transfer case, but
all that extra fluid from the transmission isn't helping it any.
You can probably get away with putting off this repair for a while, as long
as you drain the excess fluid from the transfer case.
Earle
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:569928407fe32@uwe...
--snippy--
>
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said
> there didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see
> any earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it
> should not be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the
> diff/trans case being "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out
> here."
>
> Great info!
> Thx
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
defect in the rear transmission seal. Then the transfer case will be
overfilled with fluid, and the transmission fluid level will be down. The
fix is to remove the transfer case, then replace the transmission rear seal.
The seal is inexpensive enough, but the labor to remove and replace the
transfer case is not small change. Then would be a good time to get the
transmission serviced, and the transmission (transfer case?) mount replaced.
The speedometer seal is a likely spot for leaks from the transfer case, but
all that extra fluid from the transmission isn't helping it any.
You can probably get away with putting off this repair for a while, as long
as you drain the excess fluid from the transfer case.
Earle
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:569928407fe32@uwe...
--snippy--
>
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said
> there didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see
> any earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it
> should not be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the
> diff/trans case being "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out
> here."
>
> Great info!
> Thx
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
10-30-2005, 02:28 AM
#94
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
Fluid can leak from the transmission to the transfer case, if there is a
defect in the rear transmission seal. Then the transfer case will be
overfilled with fluid, and the transmission fluid level will be down. The
fix is to remove the transfer case, then replace the transmission rear seal.
The seal is inexpensive enough, but the labor to remove and replace the
transfer case is not small change. Then would be a good time to get the
transmission serviced, and the transmission (transfer case?) mount replaced.
The speedometer seal is a likely spot for leaks from the transfer case, but
all that extra fluid from the transmission isn't helping it any.
You can probably get away with putting off this repair for a while, as long
as you drain the excess fluid from the transfer case.
Earle
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:569928407fe32@uwe...
--snippy--
>
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said
> there didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see
> any earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it
> should not be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the
> diff/trans case being "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out
> here."
>
> Great info!
> Thx
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
defect in the rear transmission seal. Then the transfer case will be
overfilled with fluid, and the transmission fluid level will be down. The
fix is to remove the transfer case, then replace the transmission rear seal.
The seal is inexpensive enough, but the labor to remove and replace the
transfer case is not small change. Then would be a good time to get the
transmission serviced, and the transmission (transfer case?) mount replaced.
The speedometer seal is a likely spot for leaks from the transfer case, but
all that extra fluid from the transmission isn't helping it any.
You can probably get away with putting off this repair for a while, as long
as you drain the excess fluid from the transfer case.
Earle
"jimboe via CarKB.com" <u15312@uwe> wrote in message
news:569928407fe32@uwe...
--snippy--
>
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said
> there didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see
> any earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it
> should not be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the
> diff/trans case being "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out
> here."
>
> Great info!
> Thx
>
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
10-30-2005, 09:43 AM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> DougW wrote:
>> Depending on what's broken it could be as simple as the plastic pawl or as
>> involved as the lock mechanisim. You couldn't open it from inside or
>> outside?
>
> Not from in or outside.
probably the plastic link clip has broken.
>> my second pair. You will also have a transmission mount that will need
>> to be replaced at the same time or the engine will not sit properly.
>
> You mean, along with the motor mounts I mentioned, correct?
Yes. They all act to support the engine assembly. Sort of like three
legs on a stool.
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said there
> didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see any
> earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it should not
> be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the diff/trans case being
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down on the
transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque converter (although
that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate with time.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>> Depending on what's broken it could be as simple as the plastic pawl or as
>> involved as the lock mechanisim. You couldn't open it from inside or
>> outside?
>
> Not from in or outside.
probably the plastic link clip has broken.
>> my second pair. You will also have a transmission mount that will need
>> to be replaced at the same time or the engine will not sit properly.
>
> You mean, along with the motor mounts I mentioned, correct?
Yes. They all act to support the engine assembly. Sort of like three
legs on a stool.
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said there
> didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see any
> earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it should not
> be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the diff/trans case being
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down on the
transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque converter (although
that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate with time.
--
DougW
10-30-2005, 09:43 AM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> DougW wrote:
>> Depending on what's broken it could be as simple as the plastic pawl or as
>> involved as the lock mechanisim. You couldn't open it from inside or
>> outside?
>
> Not from in or outside.
probably the plastic link clip has broken.
>> my second pair. You will also have a transmission mount that will need
>> to be replaced at the same time or the engine will not sit properly.
>
> You mean, along with the motor mounts I mentioned, correct?
Yes. They all act to support the engine assembly. Sort of like three
legs on a stool.
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said there
> didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see any
> earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it should not
> be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the diff/trans case being
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down on the
transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque converter (although
that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate with time.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>> Depending on what's broken it could be as simple as the plastic pawl or as
>> involved as the lock mechanisim. You couldn't open it from inside or
>> outside?
>
> Not from in or outside.
probably the plastic link clip has broken.
>> my second pair. You will also have a transmission mount that will need
>> to be replaced at the same time or the engine will not sit properly.
>
> You mean, along with the motor mounts I mentioned, correct?
Yes. They all act to support the engine assembly. Sort of like three
legs on a stool.
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said there
> didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see any
> earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it should not
> be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the diff/trans case being
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down on the
transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque converter (although
that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate with time.
--
DougW
10-30-2005, 09:43 AM
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> DougW wrote:
>> Depending on what's broken it could be as simple as the plastic pawl or as
>> involved as the lock mechanisim. You couldn't open it from inside or
>> outside?
>
> Not from in or outside.
probably the plastic link clip has broken.
>> my second pair. You will also have a transmission mount that will need
>> to be replaced at the same time or the engine will not sit properly.
>
> You mean, along with the motor mounts I mentioned, correct?
Yes. They all act to support the engine assembly. Sort of like three
legs on a stool.
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said there
> didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see any
> earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it should not
> be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the diff/trans case being
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down on the
transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque converter (although
that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate with time.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>> Depending on what's broken it could be as simple as the plastic pawl or as
>> involved as the lock mechanisim. You couldn't open it from inside or
>> outside?
>
> Not from in or outside.
probably the plastic link clip has broken.
>> my second pair. You will also have a transmission mount that will need
>> to be replaced at the same time or the engine will not sit properly.
>
> You mean, along with the motor mounts I mentioned, correct?
Yes. They all act to support the engine assembly. Sort of like three
legs on a stool.
> So then why would the tranny fluid have been near empty? The mech said there
> didn't appear to be any tranny leaks at the front (and I didn't see any
> earlier in the day when I looked underneath either), and that it should not
> be empty, UNLESS it leaked out-- then he noted the diff/trans case being
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down on the
transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque converter (although
that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate with time.
--
DougW
10-30-2005, 12:05 PM
#98
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
transmission oil.
Earle
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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--snippy--
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
>
> The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> with time.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
transmission oil.
Earle
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
--snippy--
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
>
> The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> with time.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
10-30-2005, 12:05 PM
#99
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
transmission oil.
Earle
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
--snippy--
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
>
> The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> with time.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
transmission oil.
Earle
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
--snippy--
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
>
> The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> with time.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
10-30-2005, 12:05 PM
#100
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Re: Is this Jeep worth it?
In my experience, and all the newer 4x4s use essentially the same design, a
leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
transmission oil.
Earle
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
--snippy--
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
>
> The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> with time.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
leak from the tailshaft leaks into the transfer case, not down on it. I
replaced a few torque converter seals in my day as a mechanic, and I formed
the opinion that a leak there is not so rare. The shop I worked for had a
policy of replacing this seal whenever the transmission was out of the
vehicle. I have yet to see a change in lubricant levels, that could be
explained by evaporation. Fuel maybe, but not lubricant like engine or
transmission oil.
Earle
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:F_49f.20005$v_5.17163@dukeread07...
--snippy--
> "wet" and said, "..because it proly leaked out here."
>
> The tranny can leak several places, the tailshaft which can seep down
> on the transfer case, the tranny pan, or the seals by the torque
> converter (although that's a rare leak). Fluid can also evaporate
> with time.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>