Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
11-22-2003, 09:54 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
John Welch" <jcwelch@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) wrote in message
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I learned a few things along the way. Liberty and
> Wrangler are pretty much evenly matched off road - stock,
If you honestly believe that, you haven't really done any serious (SERIOUS!)
offroading with your Wrangler. I kid you not.
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> Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) wrote in message
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I learned a few things along the way. Liberty and
> Wrangler are pretty much evenly matched off road - stock,
If you honestly believe that, you haven't really done any serious (SERIOUS!)
offroading with your Wrangler. I kid you not.
Jerry
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11-22-2003, 10:42 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
the CJ a -10.
Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there - most
Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
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> I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
>
> Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> safety features?
>
>
> Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> has this problem )
>
>
> I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> reliability?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Paul Thomas
the CJ a -10.
Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there - most
Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
>
> Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> safety features?
>
>
> Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> has this problem )
>
>
> I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> reliability?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Paul Thomas
11-22-2003, 10:42 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
the CJ a -10.
Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there - most
Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
>
> Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> safety features?
>
>
> Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> has this problem )
>
>
> I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> reliability?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Paul Thomas
the CJ a -10.
Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there - most
Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
>
> Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> safety features?
>
>
> Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> has this problem )
>
>
> I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> reliability?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Paul Thomas
11-22-2003, 10:42 PM
#64
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
the CJ a -10.
Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there - most
Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
>
> Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> safety features?
>
>
> Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> has this problem )
>
>
> I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> reliability?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Paul Thomas
the CJ a -10.
Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there - most
Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
>
> Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> safety features?
>
>
> Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> has this problem )
>
>
> I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> reliability?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Paul Thomas
11-22-2003, 10:45 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
Heh, I always have to laugh at the trolls.
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"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
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> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>
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"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
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> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>
11-22-2003, 10:45 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
Heh, I always have to laugh at the trolls.
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"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
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> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>
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"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
news:w1Wvb.993$ZE1.110@fed1read04...
> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>
11-22-2003, 10:45 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
Heh, I always have to laugh at the trolls.
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"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
news:w1Wvb.993$ZE1.110@fed1read04...
> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>
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"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
news:w1Wvb.993$ZE1.110@fed1read04...
> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>
11-22-2003, 11:13 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
In article <8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.com> ,
Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) writes:
>If you give Honda a
>reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4
I currently own both a Honda and a Ford and would switch those numbers.
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Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) writes:
>If you give Honda a
>reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4
I currently own both a Honda and a Ford and would switch those numbers.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-22-2003, 11:13 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
In article <8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.com> ,
Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) writes:
>If you give Honda a
>reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4
I currently own both a Honda and a Ford and would switch those numbers.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) writes:
>If you give Honda a
>reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4
I currently own both a Honda and a Ford and would switch those numbers.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-22-2003, 11:13 PM
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
In article <8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.com> ,
Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) writes:
>If you give Honda a
>reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4
I currently own both a Honda and a Ford and would switch those numbers.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com (Paul Thomas) writes:
>If you give Honda a
>reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4
I currently own both a Honda and a Ford and would switch those numbers.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html