Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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>I think he wants to avoid dropping and drilling the pan. Or do you mean to
>use the pan surface temperature rather than the oil itself?
>
> --
I do want to avoid dropping the pan.
Thanks
TW
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>I think he wants to avoid dropping and drilling the pan. Or do you mean to
>use the pan surface temperature rather than the oil itself?
>
> --
I do want to avoid dropping the pan.
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
news:1125015689.012220.59460@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
news:1125015689.012220.59460@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125015689.012220.59460@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
news:1125015689.012220.59460@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
news:1125015689.012220.59460@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
> The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
> oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
>
> AC 43-13-1B!
>
> Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
> engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
> and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
> of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
> production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
> stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
> Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
> subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
> you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
> scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
>
Well, that is another reason why I was more towards using a sandwich plate
to pick-up temperature than the pan. Although the other reason was I don't
want low hanging wires on something that I do take off-road in mud and
forests.
Going dry sump is not an option at this stage for me (its my daily driver).
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
news:1125015735.96fa9a237b5da58baece2d1c084d27df@t eranews...
> Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
> to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting
> to
> the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
>
> Earle
>
Precisely, I do want to monitor the temperatures but not have low hanging
wires.
Thanks
TW
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Have you look around your pan? You may already have a hole in it,
> like Doug's oil level:
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...-oil-level.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
I plan on lying under it today in the afternoon and see if there is such a
thing already.
TW
news:430E2239.A7C8C10D@***.net...
> Have you look around your pan? You may already have a hole in it,
> like Doug's oil level:
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...-oil-level.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
I plan on lying under it today in the afternoon and see if there is such a
thing already.
TW