Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
08-25-2005, 06:52 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
> You would probably want to braze that on to a steel pan.
>Mine has a plastic pan so I suppose it could be epoxied.
It's not necessary to braze it, getting it hot enough to risk an oil vapor
flash. I would drain the oil, and solder the fitting on. If you can get your
oil pan over 400 when running it and melt solder, you won't need a temp
guage to tell you it's toast.
I don't know if i would epoxy a sender outside of a plastic pan, it probably
has some insulating properties.
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Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>Mine has a plastic pan so I suppose it could be epoxied.
It's not necessary to braze it, getting it hot enough to risk an oil vapor
flash. I would drain the oil, and solder the fitting on. If you can get your
oil pan over 400 when running it and melt solder, you won't need a temp
guage to tell you it's toast.
I don't know if i would epoxy a sender outside of a plastic pan, it probably
has some insulating properties.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
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08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
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08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
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08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
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Billy Ray wrote:
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windshield washer level when it go south.
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08-25-2005, 08:21 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
08-25-2005, 08:21 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
08-25-2005, 08:21 PM
#108
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
08-25-2005, 08:21 PM
#109
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.
AC 43-13-1B!
Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.
08-25-2005, 08:26 PM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting to
the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
Earle
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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> If all you want is oil temp, why not clean an area on the pan below the
> full-line, and epoxy or solder a fitting (pre-attached to sender) in
place?
>
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> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting to
the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.
Earle
"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:3n6c2bF3c6qU1@individual.net...
> If all you want is oil temp, why not clean an area on the pan below the
> full-line, and epoxy or solder a fitting (pre-attached to sender) in
place?
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>