Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
08-27-2005, 01:53 AM
#151
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
this)>" wrote:
>"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Speaking of idiot lights, I recently found out Ford on all their trucks
>> for the past 20 years does not have a true oil pressure gauge. I was
>> listening ot Goss's Garage and Pat said that the oil pressure guage in
>> Ford trucks is a pointer idiot light and has been because the bean
>> counters proofed that it was less costly to do so. So I went to my
>> neighbor and asked to do a test and found out that the oil sending unit is
>> a switch to ground. We even measured the resistance from a cold start no
>> change, them we used a probe hooked to th + side of the battery and it
>> light. Damn Ford has been fooling us for a ling time. Pat was also
>> saying that Ford was not going to change because there was no value in
>> doing so.
>>
>
>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>TW
this)>" wrote:
>"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:oImdneeCu--OoJPeRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> Speaking of idiot lights, I recently found out Ford on all their trucks
>> for the past 20 years does not have a true oil pressure gauge. I was
>> listening ot Goss's Garage and Pat said that the oil pressure guage in
>> Ford trucks is a pointer idiot light and has been because the bean
>> counters proofed that it was less costly to do so. So I went to my
>> neighbor and asked to do a test and found out that the oil sending unit is
>> a switch to ground. We even measured the resistance from a cold start no
>> change, them we used a probe hooked to th + side of the battery and it
>> light. Damn Ford has been fooling us for a ling time. Pat was also
>> saying that Ford was not going to change because there was no value in
>> doing so.
>>
>
>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>TW
08-27-2005, 01:53 AM
#152
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
this)>" wrote:
>"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:oImdneeCu--OoJPeRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> Speaking of idiot lights, I recently found out Ford on all their trucks
>> for the past 20 years does not have a true oil pressure gauge. I was
>> listening ot Goss's Garage and Pat said that the oil pressure guage in
>> Ford trucks is a pointer idiot light and has been because the bean
>> counters proofed that it was less costly to do so. So I went to my
>> neighbor and asked to do a test and found out that the oil sending unit is
>> a switch to ground. We even measured the resistance from a cold start no
>> change, them we used a probe hooked to th + side of the battery and it
>> light. Damn Ford has been fooling us for a ling time. Pat was also
>> saying that Ford was not going to change because there was no value in
>> doing so.
>>
>
>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>TW
this)>" wrote:
>"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:oImdneeCu--OoJPeRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> Speaking of idiot lights, I recently found out Ford on all their trucks
>> for the past 20 years does not have a true oil pressure gauge. I was
>> listening ot Goss's Garage and Pat said that the oil pressure guage in
>> Ford trucks is a pointer idiot light and has been because the bean
>> counters proofed that it was less costly to do so. So I went to my
>> neighbor and asked to do a test and found out that the oil sending unit is
>> a switch to ground. We even measured the resistance from a cold start no
>> change, them we used a probe hooked to th + side of the battery and it
>> light. Damn Ford has been fooling us for a ling time. Pat was also
>> saying that Ford was not going to change because there was no value in
>> doing so.
>>
>
>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>TW
08-27-2005, 01:53 AM
#153
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
this)>" wrote:
>"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:oImdneeCu--OoJPeRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> Speaking of idiot lights, I recently found out Ford on all their trucks
>> for the past 20 years does not have a true oil pressure gauge. I was
>> listening ot Goss's Garage and Pat said that the oil pressure guage in
>> Ford trucks is a pointer idiot light and has been because the bean
>> counters proofed that it was less costly to do so. So I went to my
>> neighbor and asked to do a test and found out that the oil sending unit is
>> a switch to ground. We even measured the resistance from a cold start no
>> change, them we used a probe hooked to th + side of the battery and it
>> light. Damn Ford has been fooling us for a ling time. Pat was also
>> saying that Ford was not going to change because there was no value in
>> doing so.
>>
>
>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>TW
this)>" wrote:
>"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:oImdneeCu--OoJPeRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> Speaking of idiot lights, I recently found out Ford on all their trucks
>> for the past 20 years does not have a true oil pressure gauge. I was
>> listening ot Goss's Garage and Pat said that the oil pressure guage in
>> Ford trucks is a pointer idiot light and has been because the bean
>> counters proofed that it was less costly to do so. So I went to my
>> neighbor and asked to do a test and found out that the oil sending unit is
>> a switch to ground. We even measured the resistance from a cold start no
>> change, them we used a probe hooked to th + side of the battery and it
>> light. Damn Ford has been fooling us for a ling time. Pat was also
>> saying that Ford was not going to change because there was no value in
>> doing so.
>>
>
>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>TW
08-27-2005, 05:06 AM
#154
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
08-27-2005, 05:06 AM
#155
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
08-27-2005, 05:06 AM
#156
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
08-27-2005, 05:06 AM
#157
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-mgvMqXQdjvYF@anon.none.net...
> You have to watch it - there are two different filters. The 87-89
> (maybe 90) in the XJ/MJ used a different thread - metric, 20mm x ???
> while the 4.0 engines built later for the Chrysler-produced models
> used something else. Far as I know, 91 and up use the same filter, I
> don't know for sure what the 90 used, and the 89 back to 87 use their
> own thread. For the TJ, you shouldn't have to worry. The older
> engines can be pretty cheaply changed to use the newer filter by
> replacing the adapter on the block.
>
Thanks for the warning. I have '01 TJ, so whats the verdict on that? Is it
20mm or 3/4"? A compatible after market filter number would be a good
reference point. Dealership here is closed on Sunday or else I would have
gone picked their brain (they are generally really good here).
Thanks in advance.
TW
08-27-2005, 05:08 AM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
> this)>" wrote:
>
>>
>>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
>
> Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>>
Well, unless you build your own truck from scratch with sourced/engineered
parts, you will have to live with what the manufacturers do. As for buying
a Jeep, well at least there is some wow factor in it.
Cheers
TW
news:0svvg1h7bm3q3kkonb1rbt96q90dmqke0a@4ax.com...
> In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
> this)>" wrote:
>
>>
>>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
>
> Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>>
Well, unless you build your own truck from scratch with sourced/engineered
parts, you will have to live with what the manufacturers do. As for buying
a Jeep, well at least there is some wow factor in it.
Cheers
TW
08-27-2005, 05:08 AM
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
> this)>" wrote:
>
>>
>>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
>
> Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>>
Well, unless you build your own truck from scratch with sourced/engineered
parts, you will have to live with what the manufacturers do. As for buying
a Jeep, well at least there is some wow factor in it.
Cheers
TW
news:0svvg1h7bm3q3kkonb1rbt96q90dmqke0a@4ax.com...
> In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
> this)>" wrote:
>
>>
>>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
>
> Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>>
Well, unless you build your own truck from scratch with sourced/engineered
parts, you will have to live with what the manufacturers do. As for buying
a Jeep, well at least there is some wow factor in it.
Cheers
TW
08-27-2005, 05:08 AM
#160
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Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:0svvg1h7bm3q3kkonb1rbt96q90dmqke0a@4ax.com...
> In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
> this)>" wrote:
>
>>
>>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
>
> Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>>
Well, unless you build your own truck from scratch with sourced/engineered
parts, you will have to live with what the manufacturers do. As for buying
a Jeep, well at least there is some wow factor in it.
Cheers
TW
news:0svvg1h7bm3q3kkonb1rbt96q90dmqke0a@4ax.com...
> In message <deobd1$l05$8@lust.ihug.co.nz>, ""TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete
> this)>" wrote:
>
>>
>>I knew there was a reason why I never bought a Ford....... :-)
>
> Yet you would buy a Jeep, and they do the same thing.
>
>>
Well, unless you build your own truck from scratch with sourced/engineered
parts, you will have to live with what the manufacturers do. As for buying
a Jeep, well at least there is some wow factor in it.
Cheers
TW