incremental lift or all at once?
#21
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
which has plenty of power.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>
> I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>
> I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
>
> my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
>> now and will eventually be going larger.
>>
>> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> the 33's a realistic option.
>>
>> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> or
>> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> tires & regear?
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
which has plenty of power.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>
> I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>
> I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
>
> my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
>> now and will eventually be going larger.
>>
>> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> the 33's a realistic option.
>>
>> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> or
>> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> tires & regear?
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
#22
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
which has plenty of power.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>
> I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>
> I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
>
> my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
>> now and will eventually be going larger.
>>
>> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> the 33's a realistic option.
>>
>> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> or
>> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> tires & regear?
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
which has plenty of power.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>
> I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>
> I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
>
> my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
>> now and will eventually be going larger.
>>
>> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> the 33's a realistic option.
>>
>> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> or
>> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> tires & regear?
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
#23
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
Ahhh, I see...
So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
on.
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
> which has plenty of power.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
> >
> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
> >
> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >
> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
> >>
> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
> >> the 33's a realistic option.
> >>
> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
> >> or
> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
> >> tires & regear?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
on.
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
> which has plenty of power.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
> >
> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
> >
> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >
> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
> >>
> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
> >> the 33's a realistic option.
> >>
> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
> >> or
> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
> >> tires & regear?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: incremental lift or all at once?
Ahhh, I see...
So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
on.
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
> which has plenty of power.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
> >
> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
> >
> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >
> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
> >>
> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
> >> the 33's a realistic option.
> >>
> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
> >> or
> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
> >> tires & regear?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
on.
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
> which has plenty of power.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
> >
> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
> >
> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >
> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
> >>
> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
> >> the 33's a realistic option.
> >>
> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
> >> or
> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
> >> tires & regear?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: incremental lift or all at once?
Ahhh, I see...
So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
on.
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
> which has plenty of power.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
> >
> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
> >
> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >
> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
> >>
> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
> >> the 33's a realistic option.
> >>
> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
> >> or
> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
> >> tires & regear?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
on.
Mike
Eric wrote:
>
> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the 4.0L,
> which has plenty of power.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
> >
> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
> >
> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but the
> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> >
> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it right
> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
> >>
> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
> >> the 33's a realistic option.
> >>
> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
> >> or
> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
> >> tires & regear?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
#26
Guest
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
The TJ Sport has the 4.0. Great engine, so I'd say if they can't get out
of their own way, they need a regear.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
--
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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
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Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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of their own way, they need a regear.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#27
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
The TJ Sport has the 4.0. Great engine, so I'd say if they can't get out
of their own way, they need a regear.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
of their own way, they need a regear.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#28
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
The TJ Sport has the 4.0. Great engine, so I'd say if they can't get out
of their own way, they need a regear.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
of their own way, they need a regear.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#29
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Re: incremental lift or all at once?
No, the Sport model is the 4.0L engine. I generally have a hard time
getting out of my way at anything above 50mph, but can cruise at 60-65 most
days in 5th. 4th will take me to 70, but buzz my fillings right out.
I have 33s on my 2.5L with the stock 4.10 gears. A few intake/exhaust mods
has allowed me more use of 5th than normal... if someone with a 4.0L is have
problems, either they have the worst gears (what is it, 3.07?) with HUGE
tires, or just want a sports car.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DC14AE.9329F85C@sympatico.ca...
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the
>> 4.0L,
>> which has plenty of power.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
>> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>> >
>> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
>> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>> >
>> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
>> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but
>> > the
>> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
>> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it
>> >> right
>> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> >> the 33's a realistic option.
>> >>
>> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> >> or
>> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> >> tires & regear?
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
getting out of my way at anything above 50mph, but can cruise at 60-65 most
days in 5th. 4th will take me to 70, but buzz my fillings right out.
I have 33s on my 2.5L with the stock 4.10 gears. A few intake/exhaust mods
has allowed me more use of 5th than normal... if someone with a 4.0L is have
problems, either they have the worst gears (what is it, 3.07?) with HUGE
tires, or just want a sports car.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DC14AE.9329F85C@sympatico.ca...
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the
>> 4.0L,
>> which has plenty of power.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
>> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>> >
>> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
>> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>> >
>> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
>> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but
>> > the
>> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
>> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it
>> >> right
>> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> >> the 33's a realistic option.
>> >>
>> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> >> or
>> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> >> tires & regear?
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: incremental lift or all at once?
No, the Sport model is the 4.0L engine. I generally have a hard time
getting out of my way at anything above 50mph, but can cruise at 60-65 most
days in 5th. 4th will take me to 70, but buzz my fillings right out.
I have 33s on my 2.5L with the stock 4.10 gears. A few intake/exhaust mods
has allowed me more use of 5th than normal... if someone with a 4.0L is have
problems, either they have the worst gears (what is it, 3.07?) with HUGE
tires, or just want a sports car.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DC14AE.9329F85C@sympatico.ca...
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the
>> 4.0L,
>> which has plenty of power.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
>> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>> >
>> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
>> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>> >
>> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
>> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but
>> > the
>> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
>> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it
>> >> right
>> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> >> the 33's a realistic option.
>> >>
>> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> >> or
>> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> >> tires & regear?
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.
getting out of my way at anything above 50mph, but can cruise at 60-65 most
days in 5th. 4th will take me to 70, but buzz my fillings right out.
I have 33s on my 2.5L with the stock 4.10 gears. A few intake/exhaust mods
has allowed me more use of 5th than normal... if someone with a 4.0L is have
problems, either they have the worst gears (what is it, 3.07?) with HUGE
tires, or just want a sports car.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DC14AE.9329F85C@sympatico.ca...
> Ahhh, I see...
>
> So when someone calls a TJ a 'sport', it is a 4 banger then?
>
> And I was meaning the 4.0 engine. I hear of all these folks that
> apparently can't get out of their own way when they have bigger tires
> on.
>
> Mike
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> Not all TJs are weak -- just the 2.5L. Your 258 is comparable to the
>> 4.0L,
>> which has plenty of power.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41DAC7B3.2864293E@sympatico.ca...
>> > Man the TJ's must have a really weak engine!
>> >
>> > I am running 33's with 3.31 gears and besides not bothering to use 5th
>> > because it bogs too easy, my CJ7's 258 goes like a scalded cat.
>> >
>> > I can pull out 'fast' to 50 mph in 2nd, 70 mph in 3rd and 4th will bury
>> > the speedo. 5th does still have power and pull as an overdrive, but
>> > the
>> > rpm are low enough to lug and drink gas. If I stay in 4th on the
>> > highway I get a sweet 23+ US mpg.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > my02tj@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok, so I recently traded in my 02 TJ sport for an 04 unlimited (more
>> >> room for my 7 week old child & safety seat). I've got 31's on it
>> >> right
>> >> now and will eventually be going larger.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to put a 2" for now, as my wheeling habits and skills are
>> >> still growing. Eventually, I'd like to go 4" w 33's. Because it's my
>> >> daily driver, I know that I'd have to regear to a 4.11 or 4.56 to make
>> >> the 33's a realistic option.
>> >>
>> >> Should I put in a 2" now and then eventually replace it?
>> >> or
>> >> Do I just wait around until I can afford the larger lift & wheels &
>> >> tires & regear?
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Rubicon Express 2" budget
>> >> lift? I have a limited budget and the difference between that and an
>> >> OME (which I would prefer) could be used for additional mods.