Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safetycanbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Dan Gates wrote:
> The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
> must be the difference.
Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
US states.
Ed
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study aboutsafetycanbemisinterpretedby SUV drivers)
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> In article <3FCFD881.CF86AD98@kinez.net>,
> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3FCE8679.C036BE53@kinez.net>,
>>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...You elevate above the authority of the U.S. government in our own
>>>>country the authority of an organization (the U.N.) that signed
>>>>under-the-table agreements with international gay rights organizations
>>>>to endorse and support NAMBLA (an organization that promotes and
>>>>aggressively fights to legalize pedophilia the world over), only to be
>>>>stopped by the U.S. Congress' officially adopting a resolution to stop
>>>>paying its dues until its endorsement and support of such organizations
>>>>ceased.
>>>
>>>Flat-out lie.
>>
>>Oh yeah? Read it and weap:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ay_Association
>>Here's another good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
>>
>>A matter of public record - part of the Congressional record, no doubt.
>>You wanna dispute that?
>>
>>I suppose you'll say that the Wikipedia is run by a right wing
>>organization.
>
>
> If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
> itself?
>
Why not get this stupid thread (and yourself) out of the Jeep newsgroup,
bub?
> In article <3FCFD881.CF86AD98@kinez.net>,
> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3FCE8679.C036BE53@kinez.net>,
>>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...You elevate above the authority of the U.S. government in our own
>>>>country the authority of an organization (the U.N.) that signed
>>>>under-the-table agreements with international gay rights organizations
>>>>to endorse and support NAMBLA (an organization that promotes and
>>>>aggressively fights to legalize pedophilia the world over), only to be
>>>>stopped by the U.S. Congress' officially adopting a resolution to stop
>>>>paying its dues until its endorsement and support of such organizations
>>>>ceased.
>>>
>>>Flat-out lie.
>>
>>Oh yeah? Read it and weap:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ay_Association
>>Here's another good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
>>
>>A matter of public record - part of the Congressional record, no doubt.
>>You wanna dispute that?
>>
>>I suppose you'll say that the Wikipedia is run by a right wing
>>organization.
>
>
> If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
> itself?
>
Why not get this stupid thread (and yourself) out of the Jeep newsgroup,
bub?
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study aboutsafetycanbemisinterpretedby SUV drivers)
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> In article <3FCFD881.CF86AD98@kinez.net>,
> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3FCE8679.C036BE53@kinez.net>,
>>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...You elevate above the authority of the U.S. government in our own
>>>>country the authority of an organization (the U.N.) that signed
>>>>under-the-table agreements with international gay rights organizations
>>>>to endorse and support NAMBLA (an organization that promotes and
>>>>aggressively fights to legalize pedophilia the world over), only to be
>>>>stopped by the U.S. Congress' officially adopting a resolution to stop
>>>>paying its dues until its endorsement and support of such organizations
>>>>ceased.
>>>
>>>Flat-out lie.
>>
>>Oh yeah? Read it and weap:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ay_Association
>>Here's another good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
>>
>>A matter of public record - part of the Congressional record, no doubt.
>>You wanna dispute that?
>>
>>I suppose you'll say that the Wikipedia is run by a right wing
>>organization.
>
>
> If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
> itself?
>
Why not get this stupid thread (and yourself) out of the Jeep newsgroup,
bub?
> In article <3FCFD881.CF86AD98@kinez.net>,
> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3FCE8679.C036BE53@kinez.net>,
>>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...You elevate above the authority of the U.S. government in our own
>>>>country the authority of an organization (the U.N.) that signed
>>>>under-the-table agreements with international gay rights organizations
>>>>to endorse and support NAMBLA (an organization that promotes and
>>>>aggressively fights to legalize pedophilia the world over), only to be
>>>>stopped by the U.S. Congress' officially adopting a resolution to stop
>>>>paying its dues until its endorsement and support of such organizations
>>>>ceased.
>>>
>>>Flat-out lie.
>>
>>Oh yeah? Read it and weap:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ay_Association
>>Here's another good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
>>
>>A matter of public record - part of the Congressional record, no doubt.
>>You wanna dispute that?
>>
>>I suppose you'll say that the Wikipedia is run by a right wing
>>organization.
>
>
> If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
> itself?
>
Why not get this stupid thread (and yourself) out of the Jeep newsgroup,
bub?
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study aboutsafetycanbemisinterpretedby SUV drivers)
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> In article <3FCFD881.CF86AD98@kinez.net>,
> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3FCE8679.C036BE53@kinez.net>,
>>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...You elevate above the authority of the U.S. government in our own
>>>>country the authority of an organization (the U.N.) that signed
>>>>under-the-table agreements with international gay rights organizations
>>>>to endorse and support NAMBLA (an organization that promotes and
>>>>aggressively fights to legalize pedophilia the world over), only to be
>>>>stopped by the U.S. Congress' officially adopting a resolution to stop
>>>>paying its dues until its endorsement and support of such organizations
>>>>ceased.
>>>
>>>Flat-out lie.
>>
>>Oh yeah? Read it and weap:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ay_Association
>>Here's another good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
>>
>>A matter of public record - part of the Congressional record, no doubt.
>>You wanna dispute that?
>>
>>I suppose you'll say that the Wikipedia is run by a right wing
>>organization.
>
>
> If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
> itself?
>
Why not get this stupid thread (and yourself) out of the Jeep newsgroup,
bub?
> In article <3FCFD881.CF86AD98@kinez.net>,
> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3FCE8679.C036BE53@kinez.net>,
>>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...You elevate above the authority of the U.S. government in our own
>>>>country the authority of an organization (the U.N.) that signed
>>>>under-the-table agreements with international gay rights organizations
>>>>to endorse and support NAMBLA (an organization that promotes and
>>>>aggressively fights to legalize pedophilia the world over), only to be
>>>>stopped by the U.S. Congress' officially adopting a resolution to stop
>>>>paying its dues until its endorsement and support of such organizations
>>>>ceased.
>>>
>>>Flat-out lie.
>>
>>Oh yeah? Read it and weap:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ay_Association
>>Here's another good one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA
>>
>>A matter of public record - part of the Congressional record, no doubt.
>>You wanna dispute that?
>>
>>I suppose you'll say that the Wikipedia is run by a right wing
>>organization.
>
>
> If you cited it, must be. Why not cite, oh, a NEWS organization? Or the UN
> itself?
>
Why not get this stupid thread (and yourself) out of the Jeep newsgroup,
bub?
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safetycanbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
C. E. White wrote:
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>
>
>>The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
>> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
>>must be the difference.
>
>
> Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
> think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
> US states.
>
> Ed
>
Of that I am not aware. But the further North you get, the more social
you get too, I think, although I don't follow the popular politics of
one state vs another. I think it has to do with not really being
comfortable watching your neighbour freeze to death in a snowbank.
It takes a real hard-hearted bastard to not care when that occurs with
regularity.
It is easier to be un-concerned when your neighbour can't afford to buy
steak but can pick fresh fruit from the tree in the park!
Dan
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>
>
>>The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
>> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
>>must be the difference.
>
>
> Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
> think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
> US states.
>
> Ed
>
Of that I am not aware. But the further North you get, the more social
you get too, I think, although I don't follow the popular politics of
one state vs another. I think it has to do with not really being
comfortable watching your neighbour freeze to death in a snowbank.
It takes a real hard-hearted bastard to not care when that occurs with
regularity.
It is easier to be un-concerned when your neighbour can't afford to buy
steak but can pick fresh fruit from the tree in the park!
Dan
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safetycanbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
C. E. White wrote:
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>
>
>>The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
>> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
>>must be the difference.
>
>
> Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
> think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
> US states.
>
> Ed
>
Of that I am not aware. But the further North you get, the more social
you get too, I think, although I don't follow the popular politics of
one state vs another. I think it has to do with not really being
comfortable watching your neighbour freeze to death in a snowbank.
It takes a real hard-hearted bastard to not care when that occurs with
regularity.
It is easier to be un-concerned when your neighbour can't afford to buy
steak but can pick fresh fruit from the tree in the park!
Dan
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>
>
>>The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
>> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
>>must be the difference.
>
>
> Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
> think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
> US states.
>
> Ed
>
Of that I am not aware. But the further North you get, the more social
you get too, I think, although I don't follow the popular politics of
one state vs another. I think it has to do with not really being
comfortable watching your neighbour freeze to death in a snowbank.
It takes a real hard-hearted bastard to not care when that occurs with
regularity.
It is easier to be un-concerned when your neighbour can't afford to buy
steak but can pick fresh fruit from the tree in the park!
Dan
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safetycanbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
C. E. White wrote:
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>
>
>>The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
>> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
>>must be the difference.
>
>
> Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
> think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
> US states.
>
> Ed
>
Of that I am not aware. But the further North you get, the more social
you get too, I think, although I don't follow the popular politics of
one state vs another. I think it has to do with not really being
comfortable watching your neighbour freeze to death in a snowbank.
It takes a real hard-hearted bastard to not care when that occurs with
regularity.
It is easier to be un-concerned when your neighbour can't afford to buy
steak but can pick fresh fruit from the tree in the park!
Dan
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>
>
>>The figures cited are pretty standard measures of health care efficacy.
>> Since the US and Canada are so similar, demographically, health care
>>must be the difference.
>
>
> Are there any studies that compare the northern teir of US States with Canada? I
> think there are pretty wide health differences between the northern and southern
> US states.
>
> Ed
>
Of that I am not aware. But the further North you get, the more social
you get too, I think, although I don't follow the popular politics of
one state vs another. I think it has to do with not really being
comfortable watching your neighbour freeze to death in a snowbank.
It takes a real hard-hearted bastard to not care when that occurs with
regularity.
It is easier to be un-concerned when your neighbour can't afford to buy
steak but can pick fresh fruit from the tree in the park!
Dan
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Brandon Sommerville <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message news:<a4d8007431c8f5016340d8338b40feaa@news.terane ws.com>...
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:41:18 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
Well, my father had exactly the same experience in Canada. Was checked
into the hospital immediately, directly from the doctor's office, got
a pacemaker a few days later. That answer your question?
>
> That would depend on the doctor, wouldn't it? If the doctor realized
> that it was serious there's no reason why the angioplasty wouldn't
> have been performed.
>
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me, that
> >is important.
>
> Sure, if you can afford it. I can understand why you don't want to
> mess with the system when you can afford to benefit from it.
>
> >I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy great.
>
> Then why are you running it down?
>
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including Canadians.
>
> It can't lower the quality of care for everyone, as some have
> effectively no care at all.
Well, some people are getting care that's worse than nothing. Look at
Michael Jackson, for instance.
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:41:18 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
Well, my father had exactly the same experience in Canada. Was checked
into the hospital immediately, directly from the doctor's office, got
a pacemaker a few days later. That answer your question?
>
> That would depend on the doctor, wouldn't it? If the doctor realized
> that it was serious there's no reason why the angioplasty wouldn't
> have been performed.
>
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me, that
> >is important.
>
> Sure, if you can afford it. I can understand why you don't want to
> mess with the system when you can afford to benefit from it.
>
> >I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy great.
>
> Then why are you running it down?
>
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including Canadians.
>
> It can't lower the quality of care for everyone, as some have
> effectively no care at all.
Well, some people are getting care that's worse than nothing. Look at
Michael Jackson, for instance.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Brandon Sommerville <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message news:<a4d8007431c8f5016340d8338b40feaa@news.terane ws.com>...
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:41:18 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
Well, my father had exactly the same experience in Canada. Was checked
into the hospital immediately, directly from the doctor's office, got
a pacemaker a few days later. That answer your question?
>
> That would depend on the doctor, wouldn't it? If the doctor realized
> that it was serious there's no reason why the angioplasty wouldn't
> have been performed.
>
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me, that
> >is important.
>
> Sure, if you can afford it. I can understand why you don't want to
> mess with the system when you can afford to benefit from it.
>
> >I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy great.
>
> Then why are you running it down?
>
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including Canadians.
>
> It can't lower the quality of care for everyone, as some have
> effectively no care at all.
Well, some people are getting care that's worse than nothing. Look at
Michael Jackson, for instance.
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:41:18 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
Well, my father had exactly the same experience in Canada. Was checked
into the hospital immediately, directly from the doctor's office, got
a pacemaker a few days later. That answer your question?
>
> That would depend on the doctor, wouldn't it? If the doctor realized
> that it was serious there's no reason why the angioplasty wouldn't
> have been performed.
>
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me, that
> >is important.
>
> Sure, if you can afford it. I can understand why you don't want to
> mess with the system when you can afford to benefit from it.
>
> >I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy great.
>
> Then why are you running it down?
>
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including Canadians.
>
> It can't lower the quality of care for everyone, as some have
> effectively no care at all.
Well, some people are getting care that's worse than nothing. Look at
Michael Jackson, for instance.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
Brandon Sommerville <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message news:<a4d8007431c8f5016340d8338b40feaa@news.terane ws.com>...
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:41:18 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
Well, my father had exactly the same experience in Canada. Was checked
into the hospital immediately, directly from the doctor's office, got
a pacemaker a few days later. That answer your question?
>
> That would depend on the doctor, wouldn't it? If the doctor realized
> that it was serious there's no reason why the angioplasty wouldn't
> have been performed.
>
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me, that
> >is important.
>
> Sure, if you can afford it. I can understand why you don't want to
> mess with the system when you can afford to benefit from it.
>
> >I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy great.
>
> Then why are you running it down?
>
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including Canadians.
>
> It can't lower the quality of care for everyone, as some have
> effectively no care at all.
Well, some people are getting care that's worse than nothing. Look at
Michael Jackson, for instance.
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:41:18 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
Well, my father had exactly the same experience in Canada. Was checked
into the hospital immediately, directly from the doctor's office, got
a pacemaker a few days later. That answer your question?
>
> That would depend on the doctor, wouldn't it? If the doctor realized
> that it was serious there's no reason why the angioplasty wouldn't
> have been performed.
>
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me, that
> >is important.
>
> Sure, if you can afford it. I can understand why you don't want to
> mess with the system when you can afford to benefit from it.
>
> >I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy great.
>
> Then why are you running it down?
>
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including Canadians.
>
> It can't lower the quality of care for everyone, as some have
> effectively no care at all.
Well, some people are getting care that's worse than nothing. Look at
Michael Jackson, for instance.
