Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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In article <vq34l1oaakjo6b@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
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>"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
>news:bnq73506s9@enews1.newsguy.com...
>> Great reply, Brent. Ask Ted Kennedy & his Hyannisport chums why they're
>> blocking off shore wind turbines. Just another bunch of Liberal NIMBY
>> hypocrites.
>
>The same Ted Kennedy who murded that girl at Chappaquidik and used his name
>to get off.
>
You forgot to claim Clinton murdered Vince Foster.
>
>>
>> > I want a clean world where the environment is protected and not
>destroyed.
>> > This is why I try to buy products made in nations with at least a decent
>> > level of regulation to achieve that goal. However the environmental
>> > movement doesn't stand for that. They stand for some political and
>social
>> > agenda where the USA is considered evil and the standard of living must
>> > be knocked down several pegs. The environment is being used for an
>> > excuse and it sickens me.
>> >
>> > And then guess what happens when someone decides to build a wind farm
>> > near the homes of some rich liberals? They throw a hissy fit.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
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>"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
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>> Great reply, Brent. Ask Ted Kennedy & his Hyannisport chums why they're
>> blocking off shore wind turbines. Just another bunch of Liberal NIMBY
>> hypocrites.
>
>The same Ted Kennedy who murded that girl at Chappaquidik and used his name
>to get off.
>
You forgot to claim Clinton murdered Vince Foster.
>
>>
>> > I want a clean world where the environment is protected and not
>destroyed.
>> > This is why I try to buy products made in nations with at least a decent
>> > level of regulation to achieve that goal. However the environmental
>> > movement doesn't stand for that. They stand for some political and
>social
>> > agenda where the USA is considered evil and the standard of living must
>> > be knocked down several pegs. The environment is being used for an
>> > excuse and it sickens me.
>> >
>> > And then guess what happens when someone decides to build a wind farm
>> > near the homes of some rich liberals? They throw a hissy fit.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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In article <vq34vkctkeqm56@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
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>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess that
>> when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
>himself.
>> Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
>> don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
>up
>> what he believes himself.
>
>Lloyd tries hard to never post facts, because then it is harder for him to
>lie his way out of it. Of course when confronted with facts he can't lie his
>way around he simply doesn't respond.
>
The facts are in the IPCC report, the National Academy of Sciences report.
But you'd have to read to read them, not just cut and paste from your usual
right-wing web sites.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
>> and
>> : boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
>for
>> : one would be genuinely interested.
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
>> : : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
>> : :
>> : : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
>
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess that
>> when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
>himself.
>> Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
>> don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
>up
>> what he believes himself.
>
>Lloyd tries hard to never post facts, because then it is harder for him to
>lie his way out of it. Of course when confronted with facts he can't lie his
>way around he simply doesn't respond.
>
The facts are in the IPCC report, the National Academy of Sciences report.
But you'd have to read to read them, not just cut and paste from your usual
right-wing web sites.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
>> and
>> : boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
>for
>> : one would be genuinely interested.
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
>> : : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
>> : :
>> : : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
>
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In article <vq34vkctkeqm56@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess that
>> when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
>himself.
>> Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
>> don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
>up
>> what he believes himself.
>
>Lloyd tries hard to never post facts, because then it is harder for him to
>lie his way out of it. Of course when confronted with facts he can't lie his
>way around he simply doesn't respond.
>
The facts are in the IPCC report, the National Academy of Sciences report.
But you'd have to read to read them, not just cut and paste from your usual
right-wing web sites.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
>> and
>> : boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
>for
>> : one would be genuinely interested.
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
>> : : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
>> : :
>> : : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
>
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess that
>> when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
>himself.
>> Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
>> don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
>up
>> what he believes himself.
>
>Lloyd tries hard to never post facts, because then it is harder for him to
>lie his way out of it. Of course when confronted with facts he can't lie his
>way around he simply doesn't respond.
>
The facts are in the IPCC report, the National Academy of Sciences report.
But you'd have to read to read them, not just cut and paste from your usual
right-wing web sites.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
>> and
>> : boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
>for
>> : one would be genuinely interested.
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
>> : : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
>> : :
>> : : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
>
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In article <vq34vkctkeqm56@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess that
>> when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
>himself.
>> Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
>> don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
>up
>> what he believes himself.
>
>Lloyd tries hard to never post facts, because then it is harder for him to
>lie his way out of it. Of course when confronted with facts he can't lie his
>way around he simply doesn't respond.
>
The facts are in the IPCC report, the National Academy of Sciences report.
But you'd have to read to read them, not just cut and paste from your usual
right-wing web sites.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
>> and
>> : boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
>for
>> : one would be genuinely interested.
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
>> : : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
>> : :
>> : : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
>
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess that
>> when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
>himself.
>> Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
>> don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
>up
>> what he believes himself.
>
>Lloyd tries hard to never post facts, because then it is harder for him to
>lie his way out of it. Of course when confronted with facts he can't lie his
>way around he simply doesn't respond.
>
The facts are in the IPCC report, the National Academy of Sciences report.
But you'd have to read to read them, not just cut and paste from your usual
right-wing web sites.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
>> and
>> : boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
>for
>> : one would be genuinely interested.
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
>> : : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
>> : :
>> : : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>
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In article <vq3h7j7pd5ff60@corp.supernews.com>,
"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Read every post I've made LP, I've answered this a dozen times.
No, you've said they MAY be hidden, they MIGHT have been transferred, PERHAPS
they're buried. If he had them, an imminent threat, ready to use, where are
they?
> You're
>the scientist, you tell me. If an item is created, and is not destroyed in
>anyway, does it still exist?
You're assuming he didn't destroy them. Prove it.
>Your like the little kid who keeps saying "why" everytime it gets an answer,
>no matter how thorough the answer is, until the parent finally has enough
>and states BECAUSE I SAID SO!.
>LP, BECAUSE I SAID SO!!. Now shut up and go to bed, you wish to act like a
>child I'll treat you like one.
>
>
"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Read every post I've made LP, I've answered this a dozen times.
No, you've said they MAY be hidden, they MIGHT have been transferred, PERHAPS
they're buried. If he had them, an imminent threat, ready to use, where are
they?
> You're
>the scientist, you tell me. If an item is created, and is not destroyed in
>anyway, does it still exist?
You're assuming he didn't destroy them. Prove it.
>Your like the little kid who keeps saying "why" everytime it gets an answer,
>no matter how thorough the answer is, until the parent finally has enough
>and states BECAUSE I SAID SO!.
>LP, BECAUSE I SAID SO!!. Now shut up and go to bed, you wish to act like a
>child I'll treat you like one.
>
>
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In article <vq3h7j7pd5ff60@corp.supernews.com>,
"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Read every post I've made LP, I've answered this a dozen times.
No, you've said they MAY be hidden, they MIGHT have been transferred, PERHAPS
they're buried. If he had them, an imminent threat, ready to use, where are
they?
> You're
>the scientist, you tell me. If an item is created, and is not destroyed in
>anyway, does it still exist?
You're assuming he didn't destroy them. Prove it.
>Your like the little kid who keeps saying "why" everytime it gets an answer,
>no matter how thorough the answer is, until the parent finally has enough
>and states BECAUSE I SAID SO!.
>LP, BECAUSE I SAID SO!!. Now shut up and go to bed, you wish to act like a
>child I'll treat you like one.
>
>
"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Read every post I've made LP, I've answered this a dozen times.
No, you've said they MAY be hidden, they MIGHT have been transferred, PERHAPS
they're buried. If he had them, an imminent threat, ready to use, where are
they?
> You're
>the scientist, you tell me. If an item is created, and is not destroyed in
>anyway, does it still exist?
You're assuming he didn't destroy them. Prove it.
>Your like the little kid who keeps saying "why" everytime it gets an answer,
>no matter how thorough the answer is, until the parent finally has enough
>and states BECAUSE I SAID SO!.
>LP, BECAUSE I SAID SO!!. Now shut up and go to bed, you wish to act like a
>child I'll treat you like one.
>
>
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In article <vq3h7j7pd5ff60@corp.supernews.com>,
"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Read every post I've made LP, I've answered this a dozen times.
No, you've said they MAY be hidden, they MIGHT have been transferred, PERHAPS
they're buried. If he had them, an imminent threat, ready to use, where are
they?
> You're
>the scientist, you tell me. If an item is created, and is not destroyed in
>anyway, does it still exist?
You're assuming he didn't destroy them. Prove it.
>Your like the little kid who keeps saying "why" everytime it gets an answer,
>no matter how thorough the answer is, until the parent finally has enough
>and states BECAUSE I SAID SO!.
>LP, BECAUSE I SAID SO!!. Now shut up and go to bed, you wish to act like a
>child I'll treat you like one.
>
>
"Douglas A. Shrader" <dshrader@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Did he have them in 2003? If so, where are they?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Read every post I've made LP, I've answered this a dozen times.
No, you've said they MAY be hidden, they MIGHT have been transferred, PERHAPS
they're buried. If he had them, an imminent threat, ready to use, where are
they?
> You're
>the scientist, you tell me. If an item is created, and is not destroyed in
>anyway, does it still exist?
You're assuming he didn't destroy them. Prove it.
>Your like the little kid who keeps saying "why" everytime it gets an answer,
>no matter how thorough the answer is, until the parent finally has enough
>and states BECAUSE I SAID SO!.
>LP, BECAUSE I SAID SO!!. Now shut up and go to bed, you wish to act like a
>child I'll treat you like one.
>
>
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"Phil Breau" <phil@breau.com> wrote in message
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> Large SUV's are great for bad drivers. It will lessen the likelihood of
> being fatally injured WHEN you get in an accident.
> Read this article
> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/parttimemom1.htm
> I used my '89 Horizon as an SUV. True story: I put 4 6x6 16' long timbers
on
> the roof racks. Weighed 500 pounds. Racks were rated for 100 pounds max.
> Let's see you do that with your precious Hummer that you bought with the
> inheritance money mommy and daddy left you with.
>
> Real men don't drive SUV's.
>
> "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote in message
> news:gb50pvg4cfcc9m1di3lvgsdf2aj3mfj0rg@4ax.com...
> > On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > Georgoudis) wrote:
> >
> > >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >car.
> >
> > I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > bought a very safe SUV.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
>
>
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"Phil Breau" <phil@breau.com> wrote in message
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> Large SUV's are great for bad drivers. It will lessen the likelihood of
> being fatally injured WHEN you get in an accident.
> Read this article
> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/parttimemom1.htm
> I used my '89 Horizon as an SUV. True story: I put 4 6x6 16' long timbers
on
> the roof racks. Weighed 500 pounds. Racks were rated for 100 pounds max.
> Let's see you do that with your precious Hummer that you bought with the
> inheritance money mommy and daddy left you with.
>
> Real men don't drive SUV's.
>
> "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote in message
> news:gb50pvg4cfcc9m1di3lvgsdf2aj3mfj0rg@4ax.com...
> > On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > Georgoudis) wrote:
> >
> > >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >car.
> >
> > I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > bought a very safe SUV.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
>
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"Phil Breau" <phil@breau.com> wrote in message
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> Large SUV's are great for bad drivers. It will lessen the likelihood of
> being fatally injured WHEN you get in an accident.
> Read this article
> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/parttimemom1.htm
> I used my '89 Horizon as an SUV. True story: I put 4 6x6 16' long timbers
on
> the roof racks. Weighed 500 pounds. Racks were rated for 100 pounds max.
> Let's see you do that with your precious Hummer that you bought with the
> inheritance money mommy and daddy left you with.
>
> Real men don't drive SUV's.
>
> "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote in message
> news:gb50pvg4cfcc9m1di3lvgsdf2aj3mfj0rg@4ax.com...
> > On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > Georgoudis) wrote:
> >
> > >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >car.
> >
> > I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > bought a very safe SUV.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
>
>
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"Phil Breau" <phil@breau.com> wrote in message
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> Large SUV's are great for bad drivers. It will lessen the likelihood of
> being fatally injured WHEN you get in an accident.
> Read this article
> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/parttimemom1.htm
> I used my '89 Horizon as an SUV. True story: I put 4 6x6 16' long timbers
on
> the roof racks. Weighed 500 pounds. Racks were rated for 100 pounds max.
> Let's see you do that with your precious Hummer that you bought with the
> inheritance money mommy and daddy left you with.
>
> Real men don't drive SUV's.
>
> "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote in message
> news:gb50pvg4cfcc9m1di3lvgsdf2aj3mfj0rg@4ax.com...
> > On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > Georgoudis) wrote:
> >
> > >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >car.
> >
> > I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > bought a very safe SUV.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
>
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"Phil Breau" <phil@breau.com> wrote in message
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> Large SUV's are great for bad drivers. It will lessen the likelihood of
> being fatally injured WHEN you get in an accident.
> Read this article
> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/parttimemom1.htm
> I used my '89 Horizon as an SUV. True story: I put 4 6x6 16' long timbers
on
> the roof racks. Weighed 500 pounds. Racks were rated for 100 pounds max.
> Let's see you do that with your precious Hummer that you bought with the
> inheritance money mommy and daddy left you with.
>
> Real men don't drive SUV's.
>
> "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote in message
> news:gb50pvg4cfcc9m1di3lvgsdf2aj3mfj0rg@4ax.com...
> > On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > Georgoudis) wrote:
> >
> > >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >car.
> >
> > I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > bought a very safe SUV.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
>
>
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Jim
"Phil Breau" <phil@breau.com> wrote in message
news:1pnob.129452$h61.4116@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> Large SUV's are great for bad drivers. It will lessen the likelihood of
> being fatally injured WHEN you get in an accident.
> Read this article
> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/parttimemom1.htm
> I used my '89 Horizon as an SUV. True story: I put 4 6x6 16' long timbers
on
> the roof racks. Weighed 500 pounds. Racks were rated for 100 pounds max.
> Let's see you do that with your precious Hummer that you bought with the
> inheritance money mommy and daddy left you with.
>
> Real men don't drive SUV's.
>
> "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote in message
> news:gb50pvg4cfcc9m1di3lvgsdf2aj3mfj0rg@4ax.com...
> > On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > Georgoudis) wrote:
> >
> > >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >car.
> >
> > I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > bought a very safe SUV.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
>
>


