How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
CJ.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F8734.35DF71F9@***.net...
> I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the
> passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten
> years here in Kalifornia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>>
>> i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger
>> seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding
>> the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll
>> understand why that new Unlimited is calling.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> martin caskey
>> millers island, maryland
the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
CJ.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F8734.35DF71F9@***.net...
> I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the
> passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten
> years here in Kalifornia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "rmcaskey@comcast.net" wrote:
>>
>> i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger
>> seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding
>> the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll
>> understand why that new Unlimited is calling.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> martin caskey
>> millers island, maryland
#142
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:15:53 -0700, Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net>
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:15:53 -0700, Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net>
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:15:53 -0700, Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net>
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:15:53 -0700, Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@***.net>
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
wrote:
>John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler
>actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less
>expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier
>than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since
>few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars.
>
>The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I
>mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to
>it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer
>vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked
>myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now.
Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
Wrangler:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
Saab 9-5:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
John Davies
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs46thru47.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs46thru47.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs46thru47.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs46thru47.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Rusted wrote:
>
> Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
> the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about.
>
> Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far
> from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently
> ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air
> bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who
> would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix
> for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a
> CJ.
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
I believe everyone here would know that comparing these crash tests
where the test car just runs into a stationery object comparable to a
bride abutment, isn't real life. That's why so many choose gas guzzling
SUVs over imports like your Saab. Like if you saw this front-end:
http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg coming at you, it doesn't take
much intelligence to know you would be instantly going backwards at
about the same speed I hit you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
John Davies wrote:
>
> Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
> cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
>
> There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
> car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
>
> I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
> injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
> triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
>
> Wrangler:
> http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
>
> Saab 9-5:
> http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
>
> John Davies
where the test car just runs into a stationery object comparable to a
bride abutment, isn't real life. That's why so many choose gas guzzling
SUVs over imports like your Saab. Like if you saw this front-end:
http://www.----------.com/bronco4.jpg coming at you, it doesn't take
much intelligence to know you would be instantly going backwards at
about the same speed I hit you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
John Davies wrote:
>
> Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older
> cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering.
>
> There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern
> car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection.
>
> I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the
> injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had
> triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford.
>
> Wrangler:
> http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html
>
> Saab 9-5:
> http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html
>
> John Davies