How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
06-04-2005, 03:46 PM
#211
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-04-2005, 03:46 PM
#212
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-04-2005, 03:46 PM
#213
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-04-2005, 03:50 PM
#214
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-04-2005, 03:50 PM
#215
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-04-2005, 03:50 PM
#216
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-04-2005, 03:50 PM
#217
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
? They were a US design weren't they ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A2051A.69954CF4@***.net...
> What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It
> doesn't. Made in America? It's not.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > must be missing the point - where does it say that ?
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-06-2005, 07:29 AM
#218
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
John Davies wrote:
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 07:29 AM
#219
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
John Davies wrote:
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 07:29 AM
#220
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Re: How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
John Davies wrote:
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.
>
> Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The
> typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans
> pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in
> mass.
My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ.
> Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a
> steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants?
Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle.
> Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel
> bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was
> tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the
> driver being thrown forward and killed.
With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than
absorbed by the vehicle.