hooking up plug wires on distributor
#101
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
I think you have it figured. The rotor can point anywhere 'you' want it
to on this engine as long as you put #1 plug wire in the cap the right
place on TDC compression.
To make a stock set of plug wires fit nice, the rotor should be pointing
to the front drivers side of the engine.
Having the wires lay right eliminates the possibility of cross fire and
misses and just looks cleaner.
Mike
Shaggie wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:43:56 -0400, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....
> >
> >Mike
>
> I'm not positive I follow your explanation, but is what you're saying
> that I could just choose a certain terminal on the distributor to be
> #1 and wire that one terminal over to cylinder #1 and be sure that
> while the rotor is pointing to that terminal that cylinder #1 is at
> TDC and then wire the rest of the terminals in order to the correct
> cylinders? I *think* that's all there is to it and that that is what
> you are saying, but I know it's not always the case, like the VW
> example I gave where they have it set up so that the "real" #3
> terminal is positioned so that it is slightly retarded to help #3
> cylinder run a little cooler. Thanks for the input/information!
>
> >
> >Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
> >> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
> >> cylinder as you face it.
> >>
> >> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
> >> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
> >>
> >> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
> >> needed a special #1 location.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Shaggie wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> >> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> >> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> >> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> >> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> >> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> >> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> >> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> >> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> >> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> >> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> >> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >> >
> >> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> > :wq!
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
to on this engine as long as you put #1 plug wire in the cap the right
place on TDC compression.
To make a stock set of plug wires fit nice, the rotor should be pointing
to the front drivers side of the engine.
Having the wires lay right eliminates the possibility of cross fire and
misses and just looks cleaner.
Mike
Shaggie wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:43:56 -0400, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I mean compression stroke on #1 for 'clocking' the distributor....
> >
> >Mike
>
> I'm not positive I follow your explanation, but is what you're saying
> that I could just choose a certain terminal on the distributor to be
> #1 and wire that one terminal over to cylinder #1 and be sure that
> while the rotor is pointing to that terminal that cylinder #1 is at
> TDC and then wire the rest of the terminals in order to the correct
> cylinders? I *think* that's all there is to it and that that is what
> you are saying, but I know it's not always the case, like the VW
> example I gave where they have it set up so that the "real" #3
> terminal is positioned so that it is slightly retarded to help #3
> cylinder run a little cooler. Thanks for the input/information!
>
> >
> >Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> You have to 'clock' your distributor like normal and on the V8 have
> >> number 1 just to the short edge of the advance or the right as you face
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> The advance points to the right corner of the engine also or number 1
> >> cylinder as you face it.
> >>
> >> This setup will allow a stock set of wires to fit on nicely. If you
> >> mess with the clocking, the wires get nasty.
> >>
> >> Other than that, the only Jeep engine was the Buick V6 odd fire that
> >> needed a special #1 location.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Shaggie wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
> >> > distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
> >> > Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
> >> > plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
> >> > distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
> >> > plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
> >> > specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
> >> > retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
> >> > run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
> >> > it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
> >> > are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
> >> > #1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
> >> >
> >> > "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> >> > :wq!
>
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
#102
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
Looks nice but you could do the same with and old HEI from a Chevy.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
#103
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
Looks nice but you could do the same with and old HEI from a Chevy.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
#104
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
Looks nice but you could do the same with and old HEI from a Chevy.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
#105
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
Looks nice but you could do the same with and old HEI from a Chevy.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:21:16 -0400, Shaggie <me@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:10:44 -0600, Jeepster
><yj_driver@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been working long hours and lurk when I can, I have worked 400
>>hours OT this year so far and I worked about 1000 hours last year.
>>Good to hear about the HEI I know it made a world of difference on my
>>old tired 258, if I was Shaggie I would consider it since he is
>>redoing his distributor anyways.
>
>I'm putting one of these in:
>http://4wd.com/shopwrangler/ProductD...oductSKU=40820
>
>
>
>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>:wq!
#106
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
If you rotate the oil pump slot inside the block you can make any plug
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
#107
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
If you rotate the oil pump slot inside the block you can make any plug
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
#108
Guest
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
If you rotate the oil pump slot inside the block you can make any plug
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
#109
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
If you rotate the oil pump slot inside the block you can make any plug
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
you want #1 so a mark would be useless.
IE:
1.) Point rotor to terminal fo your choice
2.) Turn slot in oil pump inside block to line up with end tab on
distributor.
3.) Insert distributor
4.) Wire plugs according to firing order
What really matters is that the timing chain is lined up correctly on
the cam and crank gears.
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:25:41 -0400, Poe <poe34@mail.com> wrote:
>Well I'm no expert but it seems to me that the #1 plug needs to fire at
>the top of the compresion stroke for that cylinder. There should be some
>sort of marking on the distributer to indicate the #1 position such as a
>line or a dot or somthing.
>
>Poe
>
>Shaggie wrote:
>
>>Hi all. Just wondering... Suppose your 304 V8 caught on fire and the
>>distributor burned up... So you removed it and ordered a replacement.
>>Plug wires all burned up too. Now you get the new distributor and
>>plug wires. Can you just choose whatever terminal you want on the
>>distributor to be #1 and go around in sequence as long as you run the
>>plug wires to the right cylinders? I know on older VWs there is a
>>specific #1 terminal because the distributors are designed to slightly
>>retard cylinder #3 because it's behind the oil cooler so it tends to
>>run hotter and retarding it a little bit helps it to not run as hot as
>>it would if it was running at the same advance the other cylinders
>>are. On a 304 Jeep can I just choose whichever terminal I want to be
>>#1? Thanks in advance for input/help.
>>
>>
>>"I can hammer it back into shape later."
>>:wq!
>>
>>
#110
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Re: hooking up plug wires on distributor
Still got to find that little gear, that seems to be worth it's
weight in gold, now.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Looks nice but you could do the same with and old HEI from a Chevy.
weight in gold, now.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Looks nice but you could do the same with and old HEI from a Chevy.